Dahmer killed a preponderance of black men because in a black neighbourhood, the available targets are mostly – yup – black. If he were some anti-black, genocidal Terminator, he wouldn't have also killed white, Asian and Latino men. As always, though, film and TV in the 2020s boils down to the same old "black man good, white man bad" lecture.
Another intriguing project lost to wokeism.
Hardly surprising..
shareWhat are you talking about?? Sounds like you haven't watched more than one episode. The series completely lacks any "woke" vibe.
shareYes I watched it (not till the end, clearly), and am sounding off because I was sorely disappointed by a project I was looking forward to. Whynotwriteme nailed it in his thread: this series is being called "important", an indictment of "white male privilege" and how white men "can get away with so much more than anyone else". It's a garbage woke series that spins the same old tired narratives about white men, none of which are backed up (and are in fact refuted) by actual data.
shareThere's nothing woke about telling a story as it actually happened. Dahmer did kill predominantly men of color. The neighbor was ignored as were family members who reported missing loved ones. Jesse Jackson did make it a crusade .Those are just the facts, whether you like it or not. Reviewers may twist those facts, but the series itself is an accurate portrayal of Dahmer, his actions, and the people affected. It's pretty straightforward.
shareAre you intentionally not listening? The complaint is that Dahmer is being depicted as some sort of example of white male "privilege." He wasn't. He was a freak and his immutable characteristics do not matter in any way.
Pretending logic doesn't exist won't make it go away, just so you know.
Exactly. Dahmer could have been any race and the outcome would have been the same.
shareIn this precise case he was indeed privileged by being a white man. You just have to listen to any serious podcast about him to see how he could just talk his way out of trouble with police officers. Even with one of his victims in distress before them. He convinced the officers it was a just lovers quarrel. That his boyfriend drank too much and was losing it. Officers laughed it off and let them both go with just a warning. It was the first of the two asian boys, if I remember correctly. Black folks were suspicious of Dahmer but never were taken seriously by authorities. Especially since crimes against homosexuals back then was something they preferred to sweep under the rug. Like.. who cares about poor low life fags. Right?
Look, I know this white privilege thing got blown way out of proportion in todays society. But as much as you want this case to have been treated by 100% neutral police officers who did everything they could to serve and protect in the name of Justice... it simply was not.
The incident with Konerak Sinthasomphone had more to do with him being gay than him being white. His ability to talk his way out of anything also had nothing to do with his race, it's something that went back to his childhood.
shareDo you really think that if Dahmer had been Black, he'd be able to talk his way out of things so easily with police?
shareYeah, absolutely. Especially if his victims had been the same. If you look at the recordings of those cops, the reason they seemed to dismiss it, is because of his homosexuality. And if you look at black serial killers, it's not as if the police put in more of an effort to catch them.
shareWhy work so hard to ignore the fact that police are more suspicious of black people because of the crime rate? Bias' exist, pretending that they don't is just silly.
shareWhy work so hard being a troll with dozens of sock puppet accounts on some obscure movie site?
shareNice try but I don't have that kind of time on my hands dude. You are getting paranoid.
shareMaybe you should try to spend some of your time learning how to read instead.👍
shareExhibit A.. Wayne Williams, killed 29 kids
To quote FBI website:
(source linked below)
"On May 22, a big break came in the case. One of the groups conducting surveillance—consisting of an FBI agent, an Atlanta police officer, and two police cadets—heard a loud splash around 2:52 a.m. A car sped across the bridge, turned around in a parking lot on the other side, and sped back across the bridge. The vehicle was pursued and stopped. The driver was a 23-year-old African-American freelance photographer named Wayne Williams.
LACKING PROBABLE CAUSE, AUTHORITIES LET WILLIAMS GO. But when the body of a young African-American man named Nathaniel Cater was found downstream two days later, more attention was paid to Williams. Investigators soon learned that his alibi was poor and that he had been arrested earlier that year for impersonating a police officer. Later, he failed multiple polygraph examinations."
Source:
https://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/-serial-killers-part-5-wayne-williams-and-the-atlanta-child-murders
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The big problem for me is the way this White-Shaming and Male-Shaming has come to totally dominate Hollywood since 2016. It doesn't matter if you watch a Superhero movie, a Fantasy movie, a Western, a SF movie, a comedy, a romance, True Crime or whatever. ALL of them have the identical "White Men = Evil Oppressor." subtext. EVERYTHING is about Racism, Sexism, LGBT etc. The market is glutted. Nobody wants the exact same message from every frigging movie they watch.
Thank god there are many decades of pre-propaganda movies and TV to appreciate, and thank god I had the foresight to build a good collection before the Woke Hollywood masters started making these older films harder to find by limiting or editing them on streaming services.
White shaming? Do, you are identifying with Dahmer?
shareDon't be disingenous. Of course not. Obviously the makers of this miniseries want White people as a whole to be identified with Dahmer. They want viewers to see Dahmer as some sort of hideous physical manifestation or avatar of the "White Privilege" that the Left always talks about.
shareI'm white, I haven't watched this, but I'm pretty certain I would not identify with him. Who are these white people who feel like they are identify with Dahmer in this show? Do you know anybody who thinks that?
shareNever mind. You're willfully misinterpreting my statement even after I clarified it for you. Pretty sad way to troll.
shareSo you claimed that white people will feel guilty from watching this but you don't know any white people who feel guilty. That makes you the troll. As per usual.
shareI haven't seen the series yet, and have no idea if I will agree with whynotwriteme or not. But holy cow.
How on earth do you go from A: "the makers of this miniseries want White people as a whole to be identified with Dahmer"
to
B: "Who are these white people who feel like they are identify with Dahmer"
and
C: "So you claimed that white people will feel guilty from watching this "
A is saying the makers WANT whites to be identified with Dahmer.
B and C are implying that whynotwriteme says/believes whites DO identify with him.
Can you not see the difference?
It does seem as if whynotwriteme is correct: You are willfully misrepresenting his statement.
Not in a million years would I think that this show wanted me to identify with Dahmer just because we are both white. That's a totally absurd notion.
I no more identify with Dahmer for that reason than I would identify with Don Draper from Mad Men or Mad Murdoch from the A-Team.
How did this movie shame white people . . . or men for that matter? Are all white people supposed to feel picked on because Dahmer was white?
shareUnlike most serial killer movies, this is not the story of a human monster who killed a lot of unfortunate victims due to his strange compulsions. This one has been filmed as a story about how a White man killed a lot of blacks and Asians and got away with it because he was White.
The Leftists who made the movie are using Dahmer as a personification of what they see as "White Privilege". Because the cops didn't arrest Dahmer when his activities were reported, they assume it was because he was white. They are holding Dahmer's story up like a banner to wave against supposed "White Privilege".
And if you are capable of interacting with cops without mouthing off/running away/attacking them and getting shot, it's only because you too are white, they claim.
You and Dahmer both profit from the mere fact of being white. You're all evil, privileged whites together with Dahmer. For shame.
That's the hypothesis behind this treatment of the Dahmer story. That's how Leftists want to portray it.
I think that you are reaching reeeaaalllyy far with this one bub. That wasn't The story shown. Why do you want to be offended so much?
shareDo you fell shame for what Dahmer did as portrayed in this show?
shareI don't know what it's like in Wisconsin but where I live being white doesn't preclude someone from being thrown in a jail cell for even a small, low level crime like shop lifting.
I don't feel ashamed to be white or male because of this programme. And I have trouble imagining how anyone could feel they were supposed to feel ashamed of either of those things by the depiction of the real events in this show.
shareName a black man that got away with multiple killings. I'll wait.
shareThe Black serial killer, Samuel Little killed 93 women over a span of multiple decades and was only caught as an old man. By comparison, Dahmer killed only 17 and all but one were within a period of about 5 years before he was caught. Little died of health issues. Dahmer died of being beaten to death by a black inmate who thought he was Jesus.
shareI can google too.
shareCongrats.
Glad I didn't have to make you wait long.
Then why ask the question if you already know there's several cases of black serial killers?
Sometimes I don't get your motivations.
Sometimes I don't get your motivations.
You post this to everyone who complains about "wokeness" and shit like that, no?
shareUnfortunately... I think you are very right.
shareIts because he's one of the biggest fuckhead trolls on this board. Don't take anything seriously from the Argentinian.
shareThat black dude from Cleveland who killed prostitutes and left the bodies in his house so the neighborhood could smell them.
He got away with it because it was a bad area, but using your logic it must have been black privilege.
The identities of serial killers usually are not known until they are captured.
https://siachenstudios-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/siachenstudios.com/list/popular-black-serial-killers/?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#aoh=16638652797991&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fsiachenstudios.com%2Flist%2Fpopular-black-serial-killers%2F
What's the name of the one that targeted women? Wasn't he arrested and escaped from custody?
shareDereck Todd Lee was a black serial killer who terrorized my community in the early 2000s. He was looked over several times because the cops thought the killer was a white man.
shareTony Clayton, the black prosecutor, told me that in person and confirms in his book about Lee.
Also a deputy sheriff repeatedly told the task force to look at Lee and they refused because the FBI said the killer was white.
Oh yeah, I remember it all very well because every female I knew was scared to death. The women being killed were right here within about a 20 mile radius. I’m pretty sure there was a detective in a town called Baker who was convinced it was Lee and no one would listen to him. His office had even arrested Lee years before because he attacked a young couple in a graveyard with a machete. Crazy stuff. After he was finally convicted I used to pass Lee’s empty house all the time until it was finally torn down.
share"detective in a town called Baker " that sounds like what I read in Clayton's book
shareIn an alternate reality where a non-woke-Hollywood exist, this would have been an award-winning biographical horror/thriller directed by David Fincher or John Frankenheimer.
shareI envision the film as a dark comedy where the FBI adamantly decrees the serial killer is a white male, early 20s to mid 30s, and awkward with women tho the evidence indicates the victims allowed the killer (a stranger) into their homes.
A lone LEO implores the FBI led task force to look at a late 30s black male, known sex offender who is quite good with ladies. The push him to the side because, well , he doesn't fit the the FBI profile.
In the meantime, bodies pile up.
Nothing above is inaccurate.
I think I saw a TV documentary about this guy. What stuck with me was what a total difference between what we see on TV about the police and the reality of what the police get done.
shareIdi Amin
shareDerek Todd Lee was a serial killer who preyed on people in my community in the early 2000s. He was a black man. In fact, one of the reasons it took them so long to catch him is because authorities were convinced the killer was white. His victims were almost all white women.
shareAs I recall real events, on one occasion, a young, Southeast Asia man escape Dahmer and was found by police running down the street with blood running from his anus. The police returned him to Dahmer and did not investigate what was going on.
If you ever heard of "white privilege", that's what it refers to.
Memory AKA recall is notoriously unreliable.
I am sure you have credible links to support your memory.
If your memory is shaky, you can look it up. Dahmer told police it was a "lover's quarrel" and they left the victim with him.
share"Dahmer told police it was a "lover's quarrel" and they left the victim with him"
Everyone knows that. However that is not what you said you recall. which was " running down the street with blood running from his anus".
So you have no credible documentation?
I do. It was a very famous case and a lot is written about the facts of the case. The cops got in trouble, but, somehow were reinstated. You can look it up Konerak Sinthasomphone if you want.
But I'm not your monkey.
You made the claim so it is incumbent on you to provide the credible documentation.
However, I took your suggestion and found no source, credible or otherwise, which supports your claim. I wasn't surprised.
Every white character is systematically an asshole, and every other "minority" is the good one, it's just ridiculous.
shareI have not seen the show but I will as it’s a fascinating case of a total maniac and I like crime stories. But Dahmer seemed to have a violent fetish for hurting black or brown gay men, he was a dangerous freak and like most horrible lunatics he had a victim profile.
It’s not ‘woke’ to say the guy mostly murdered non-whites. If I recall correctly his only ‘white’ victim was his first kill, he bashed the kid over the head with a barbell and cuddled with the corpse for a couple days.
One thing that largely holds true (outliers exist of course);
- Serial killers kill people they're attracted too.
Homosexual SK's almost always kill men, heterosexual SK's almost always kill women.
There is a very strong link between sex and violence in these individuals. Even when sexual assault isn't part of the actual act they're still intricately linked. So your comments regarding a 'violent fetish' are likely true in the literal sense. He probably prefered non-White men sexually and thus they got victimized by him more so than others.
Yeah, the ‘sex and violence’ connection has always seemed really weird to me, but I am aware of it.
For some killers like a Peter Sutcliffe type the sex was secondary, in some cases the loonies don’t even sexually assault their victims.
Just the act of bloody murder is the big ‘turn on’ for them.
Quite frankly I’m not a fan of parole for these sorts. A concrete tomb/box, porridge and one hour of daylight is all such a lunatic deserves for the rest of their life.
Some are motivated by the desire for fame along with the thrill, like David Berkowitz and the Zodiac killer. Some are motivated by a paranoid delusion, like Herbert Mullin.
share4 of his 17 victims were white. 10 were black. He met several of his victims by offering them money to take some ‘modeling shots’, so poor men, who are more likely to be black, were more vulnerable to this tactic.
shareOh, I had forgotten this. You are right, he did seem to target the poor and vulnerable.
shareHe targeted people who he found attractive in the areas he frequented - period. There's literally nothing in any of his interviews which implies he specifically targeted the "poor and vulnerable". His entire obsession was finding the most attractive person and keeping them with him as long as possible. So stop with the nonsense.
shareIt’s not nonsense, the poor and the vulnerable are easy targets. They may be jobless, estranged from family, drifter types…nobody notices their absence.
Prostitutes for instance are frequent victims of maniacs and many are not reported missing for months, long after the trail has gone cold.
You clearly are not knowledgeable about Dahmer. The only thing he cared about was whether his victims were attractive - that was the primary, paramount motivation to his actions and his obsession. He didn't target someone based on whether they were "poor and vulnerable", he targeted them based on whether they were attractive or not. Period.
Go watch some interviews instead of just spouting bullshit assertions.
No, you misunderstand me. Victims with no community attachments, no family to seek them out, are often targeted by psychos.
They are ‘easy’ pickings so to speak.
As for Dahmer he did attack men he found attractive, this is true, but he only got away with it for so long because society didn’t seem to care all that much about the victims…Have you ever heard of a serial killer that murdered 17 white, upper class suburban housewives?
Yes - Bundy, Gary Ridgway, Original NS, Ed Kemper, Samuel Little, etc. Bundy for instance got away with it the same way Dahmer did, by being likeable and convincing. By being able to separate that part of their lives from their regular demeanor.
The latest interview series on Netflix, despite trying to push certain narratives, has an interview with the black man who lived literally right next to Dahmer and spoke to him on numerous occasions - he didn't have the slightest clue. The black lady neighbor in the show is a fabrication.
The Night Stalker was a separate entity, he was drug addicted and mentally ill.
I doubt that idiot knew what he was doing half the time.
The ‘black Lady’ in the show is called story-telling, it’s a trick of the narrative, no shit, do you read?
I'm not talking about Richard Ramirez, I'm talking about the Original Night Stalker - Joseph James DeAngelo. There's tons of examples of numerous white women being killed by serial killers, so your point completely falls flat.
"The ‘black Lady’ in the show is called story-telling, it’s a trick of the narrative, no shit, do you read?"
Why are you getting so butthurt, bud? If by "trick of the narrative" you mean designed to push a certain social narrative, you'd be correct. The concept of the black community being aware of Dahmer and urging the police to do something, which is a complete fabrication (like all of your posts up to this point about Dahmer's motivations).
Steven Tuomi and Joseph Bradehoft were also very white, but for some reason they often seem to leave out their pictures.
shareYou people have a woke obsession. You'll apply it to anything and everything.
Amen. It blows my mind they can find ways to apply this "More woke propaganda" drivel to a true story about a white guy who killed 4 white people and 11 black people .
"You people have a woke obsession. You'll apply it to anything and everything."
That's already done for us by the left-wing tastemakers you so admire.
"...a true story about a white guy who killed 4 white people and 11 black people."
Because that white guy happened to live in a majority black community.
I watched it and saw a sick person committing many sick crimes.
shareMore woke propaganda.
wow 66% "butthurt angry victim-mentality whiteman" buzzwords in the subject line .
He also kill several arab men.
shareYou don't come off as sounding too smart bringing up your woke crap. That has nothing to do with this show. It just shows the events as they happened and with who was involved. You people are angry.
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