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26% audience score on Rotten Tomatoes.


https://www.rottentomatoes.com/tv/star_wars_the_acolyte

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91% critics score on Rotten Tomatoes.

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Critics are payed shills. They don't matter. Only the audience score matters.

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Audience reviews are irrelevant when they are racist and misogynistic.

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Wrong. They are valuable regardless of the intention behind giving a negative review. Since all the score measures is whether people like it. If only 26% of the people like it then 74% of the people don't like it. You can't argue with this fact. It doesn't matter if they don't like it because they hate Star Wars or they hate black people or they don't like Carry Ann Moss for some reason. It just doesn't matter. The fact still stands, 74% don't like it. And so if your goal is to make something that appeals to a broad audience then you failed.

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You're wrong! Down-voting for a reason which has nothing to do with the quality of the film or series isn't relevant and should be discounted.

I remember when a TV critic gave a negative review to radio star Howard Stern's TV show in which she eventually admitted she never watched. She should have been fired for her biased, unfair, dishonest and unprofessional review.

Fans reading reviews and ratings aren't interested in knowing if you hate blacks or women. They want to know the QUALITY of the series or movie.

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That's secondary. If you want to know why people hate it then you read reviews. If you want to know that they hate it, you just look at the score. The score only tells you how they feel about it, not why they feel the way they do.

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The rating doesn't measure their feelings about the series. Only their biases against blacks and women.

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That is their feeling about the series. The series has colored women that feel out of place. They don't belong in these roles. The Star Wars audience is primarily older White males and this series alienates them.
They don't think this series feels like Star Wars. To them it simply looks like an artificially created show for the purposes of DEI. And they don't like it. This is a perfectly valid opinion.

This show wasn't made for the fans, it was made for a "modern audience". And so fans are not watching it.
What's worse, the targeted audience of non-binary women of color doesn't seem all that interested in it either.
This is why it's a failure.

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There are old white men who are not bigots and incels enjoying the shows. You need to get out more.

Unfortunately, the loser bigoted incels are the ones actively down-voting since they have no life.

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Apparently not. Otherwise it would have a bigger audience.

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No 1 for 2024!

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nope........ Disney was lying


Disney BUSTED Lying About Viewership
https://youtu.be/Bj9rTdamv-Q

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Youtuber has no credibility.

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oh but he does....... everything is backed up with facts.

so suck it
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Not only does he NOT work at Disney, therefore doesn't have access to true information, he doesn't have a real job.

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How much do Disney pay you?

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5 dildos a day.

On weekends 7... and this time they are lubed up.

That is keelai's ree-ward 😌

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Nice window into your sick mind, thanks for sharing.

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Oops, looks like you forgot to log into your alternate account.

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You just told everyone that you have an alternate account. Nice one.

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People are probably tuning in to see what a train wreck it is.
Also, I know plenty of people who hate watch it so they could make fun of it online.
Me, I don't even bother.

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I like the concept of the Jedi as guardians of the galaxy during the Old Republic and have read some books before Disney's purchase. I also like the idea of movies or series taking place during the Jedi/ Sith Wars with thousands on both sides fighting and conquering whole planets. The video game Knights of the Old Republic took place during that era.

Lucas complained about fans who wanted to repeatedly see the same thing. New stories and charades are more interesting.

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All that sounds great and interesting. It's the execution, the cast, and the agenda that fucks it all up.
Nobody wants to watch something made by and for lesbians and non-binary women of color.
We don't want diversity. We don't want inclusion. We don't want representation. And we sure as shit don't want equity.

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Who is we?

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Everyone who is not woke.

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Racists and misogynists.

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No, most anti-Wokes are not racists and misogynist like me. They're just tired of having an agenda pushed on them.

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Your quote:
"Nobody wants to watch something made by and for lesbians and non-binary women of color.
We don't want diversity. We don't want inclusion. We don't want representation. And we sure as shit don't want equity."

aka: Racism and misogyny

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Yeah, that doesn't make someone racist. That's just someone that prefers the way movies/shows were 20 years ago. Now me on the other hand, I am a racist and a misogynist and a homophobe and an ableist, so I literally just want to see White people who are straight men and who are not weak pussies. Seeing any black person on screen triggers my black fatigue and I start to feel a mixture of rage and nausea. I asked my doctor if there are any meds for that, but all he said was keep away from blacks. Well he didn't say "blacks". He said something else, with a hard "R". He's very progressive my doctor.

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Why do you care so much? This doesn’t affect you. Just enjoy the show and don’t worry about “the racists and misogynists”. It’s pretty sad that someone else’s opinion apparently ruins the show for you, soy boy.

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But it does effect us, when they, the woke assholes, take our stories and change them into woke garbage.

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What you consider woke is suspect and not credible. Funny considering you don't even know the definition of the word.

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Woke means anything that promotes the values of the Cultural Left. Specifically anything that has to do with Critical Social Justice. In practice this means forcing diversity, equity, inclusion, and representation into every facet of life. Which means shoehorning minorities, queers, dykes, and trannies into everything. The goal is to subvert heteronormativity. To de-center Whiteness. And to de-center and pussify males. To undermine all cultural and social norms.

Wokes are subhuman vermin. They will vandalize every aspect of our culture and society if they are not stopped.

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That's simply the buzzword you incels have made it into. This is the dictionary definition.

Aware, especially of social problems such as racism and inequality.

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/woke

With your stupid definition that applies to basically anything that doesn't feature a white straight male in the lead role, or a movie with minorities.

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You do realize that words evolve over time yes?
What you provided used to be the definition, but the word has evolved in the last 10 years. Now the word is a pejorative that refers to critical social justice warriors. That is what it means, because that is how people use it today. And how a word is used determines its definition not a dictionary. The dictionary comes last. When enough people use it for long enough then it is put in the dictionary.

And please stop with the incel bullshit. That is so played out. You're just embarrassing yourself.

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He's clearly not here to discuss anything seriously or honestly.

We were discussing a real point about the show, and now he has changed the discusion to a bullshit semantics argument.


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The guy you are talking to wants to imprison non white people. Is that racist or is it acceptable because he's one of your incel buddies?

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Are you talking about me? I hope not. Because I don't want to imprison black people. Where did you get this bullshit from?
I want to send them back to Africa, not have tax payers pay for their prison stays.

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Oh wow that's so much better! It will not happen blacks are here to stay. Why don't you leave?

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The US is a White country. Founded by White people for White people.
https://immigrationhistory.org/item/1790-nationality-act/
The Nationality Act of 1790 clearly states that only white, male property owners could naturalize and acquire the status of citizens, whereas women, nonwhite persons, and indentured servants could not. While access to citizenship would become more expansive over time, It wasn't until 1952 that these restrictions were eliminated.

All that is to say, I'm White of European descent, therefore this country is mine. If you are not White, this country is not for you. Allowing others to come here was a mistake. It's time to reverse that mistake.
It's time for mass deportations.

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Lol message me when that occurs. Sound good?

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Deal.

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He crushed you on the topic.

If you were a serious or honest person you would admit it.

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Oh no he didn't. He actually proved my point. You incels don't even know what the word actually means. It's a buzzword and I proved that I'm with him and you. The dictionary overrides you and him sorry. So no quite opposite I crushed him.

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Stop. You're just embarrassing yourself. And it's sad to watch.

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You lost the debate move on incel.

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LOL.
Maybe we should ask the other members of the board. Even the ones who don't like me. If they were being honest, what would they say?

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Feel free.

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Your stonewalling on semantics is to avoid discussing the issue seriously or honestly. WE CAN ALL SEE THAT.

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No stonewalling. You guys just can't argue with the dictionary.

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What do you think of him wanting all blacks deported back to Africa? You cool with that?

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The bit where you try to jump all over the place, is your brain dealing with the fact that it knows it lost the argument.

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Wow this is a new low. You will gladly support a racist piece of shit so long as they agree with you. I didn't jump all over the place he openly supports that. Your concession is noted.

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The word "Racist" is not magic.

The topic was how wokeness ruined another star wars show.

You lost.

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Nope it was the meaning of the word. I cited the definition. He couldn't argue the definition. You lost actually.

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Your whining is...sad.

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No the dictionary determines the definition. Also it's only you dumb incels which use the weird in that way so it is not the majority. Either way though you idiots don't even know where the weird cane from originally.

Anyway you got exposed as a bigot.

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No the dictionary determines the definition.

You're too stupid to have a conversation with.

https://www.merriam-webster.com/help/faq-words-into-dictionary
"How does a word get into a Merriam-Webster dictionary?

This is one of the questions Merriam-Webster editors are most often asked.

The answer is simple: usage."


https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/word-meaning/#ConMinLex
“Ordinary language” philosophers of the 1950s and 1960s regarded work in formal semantics as essentially irrelevant to issues of meaning in natural language. Following Austin and the later Wittgenstein, they identified meaning with use and were prone to consider the different patterns of use of individual expressions as originating different meanings of the word. "

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Lol and why is that definition in there then? Because that's how it's actually used idiot.

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No, that is how it used to be used. But it's not anymore. Now it has a new meaning. This (pejorative) is how we use it now. Eventually the dictionary will catch up. That comes last.
The point is, dummy, that dictionaries do not determine the definition of words. Usage defines words. Dictionaries just document the usage.

Now run along fool. You've already wasted too much of my time.

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Lol and once the dictionary catches up get back to me. Until then I will use it how the definition is actually used. Anyway anything else or are you done?

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It's you who is done.
Now I feel bad for picking on a genuine retard.

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You are done.

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Ok Simple Jack. You've got a really fine brain.

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The guy who just replied to you is a self-admitted fascist who wants to imprison/execute/exile all liberals/lgbt/nnon-white people.

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Oh I completely agree with you? I was replying to Keelai. His stance is if something doesn’t directly affect you then you don’t deserve an opinion on it.

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I believe that keelai is female.

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Well I’m sure whatever it is doesn’t believe in gender so it really doesn’t matter.

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Oh no!

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Oh and fyi the word woke is not magic either. You saying that doesn't automatically make you win. Got that incel?

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Errr, when we use that word, we generally use in in the context of discussing real world examples of how "wokeness" is causing an impact in the real world.

Like here, when we are happy to discuss the way that wokeness has fucked up the Acolyte.

We are willing, eager indeed, to discuss the issue,


you use the term "Racist" to try to END discussion, to dodge discussion by attacking the person you are talkign to, INSTEAD of discussing the topic.

See, you structured your sentence as though our behaviors are equivilent, and you were making a point that we both do something similar.

But your claim is just completely false. All you did was reveal that you are utterly failing to grasp anything people say around you, or even what you say yourself.

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Nope I've only used it one time and that was against him for being blatantly racist.

You have used the word woke many times even in areas it didn't apply. That's your way of shutting down the discussion.

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Your refusal to address my point seriously or honestly is noted.

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Your refusal to open up to using buzzwords is noted. You've used the word woke much more than I ever said racist.

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You understand what I/we mean when we say "woke" and you are welcome to address our concerns and I am willing to have such a discussion.

Your desire to whine like a fag about semantics, is less interesting to me.

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Yep I do. I can't address your concerns on acolyte considering you have not even seen it. Go ahead tell the world where there was gay pushing in the series. You can't do it. You rely on other people to do your job for you.

Woke is just a buzzword you idiots throw onto things you dislike. It proved my earlier point.

You idiots will say something is woke before watching it. It's the boy who cried wolf. Furiosa wasn't woke at all but it doesn't stop you idiots from making that claim. You are no different.

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So, you understand what we mean, you are just choosing to not have a real discussion and to instead have a hissy fit about semantics.

Got it.

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I understand that you idiots mean yes. Thing is I like making fun of you idiots two ways because you guys don't even know the basic meaning of the word. That's one. Number two even when we go off your dumb buzzword definition you guys will state something is woke before seeing it.

Furiosa even by your dumbass buzzword definition isn't woke, but it doesn't stop those of you who haven't seen it from staying that. So no you guys are idiots all the way around.

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So, you are just here to be a troll over a minor issue of semantics, instead of making ANY effort towards an actual discussion of the topic(s)?

OK. i knew that, I'm just amazed that you are so unaware that you don't seem to see how much of an admission you just made.



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Nope considering I just told you I saw Furiosa. Even going by your standards the movie isn't woke by that dumb buzzword meaning you have all created. However it doesn't stop incels like yourself from claiming it's woke before seeing it. So no I don't trust when idiots like you call something woke before seeing it. It is hollow and means nothing to me.

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"Nope" to what?

That you are just here to troll?

I pointed out that you were ignoring the topic to have a hissy fit about semantics and you agreed.

So....

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But that wasn't all I did... That also wasn't trolling. I just like pointing out how their use is not the true definition.

I also addressed how even by your own meaning of the word it doesn't apply to films they call it before seeing. You don't get to bypass that incel.

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All of that was built on top of your false denial.

And what's with the weird incel slur?

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No
It's literally the definition of the word?

You are an incel it's quite obvious.

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1. Your whining about semantics is noted. Don't care.

2. Go on. Tell me more.

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No it's not semantics. That's what the word means. You idiots have coopted it.

Nah I'm good. Anyone with a brain fan see you are an incel piece of trash.

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1. It's semantic nonsense. You ignore a real issue to have a hissy fit about semantics.

2. This... odd connection you make that conflates NOT bending the knee to woke assholes, to being an "incel" is... you being... fucking retarded. I would be curious to hear your chain of logic, simply to see how fucking retarded you are. But, I guess that even you are afraid to explain it, tells me just how insanely retarded it must be, that even YOU are afraid to share it.

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No it's the meaning of the word. You idiots wanting to dispute that is delusional on your end.

Nope it's when you make the claim before even watching the product. Which you have done.

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1. We were discussing a real issue, you choose to suppress the discussion by having a hissy fit over semantics.

2. That has nothing to do with being an incel. IT is like you don't even know the meaning of the word. So, what is your actual issue that you want to attack me on?

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Nope it's the meaning of the word. That isn't semantics. I even addressed your guy's definition and it falls apart under scrutiny.

Oh it does actually. Don't make claims before knowing what actually is it makes you look like an idiot.

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1. You are ignoring the real issue to whine like a fag about semantics.

2. So, you think "incel" means "idiot"? Your defense is that you don't know the actual meaning of the word? Wonderful. Liberals. All the self awareness of a potted plant. IF that potted plant is dead.

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Nope I even moved past it and dismantled your claims by your own definition.

Didn't say that. I said you are an idiot and you have done things which prove you are an incel. Nice twisting of words. Now go ahead explain to me how Furiosa is woke? You often make claims before seeing a film, so how is it woke? Your right ring crowd wants you to vouch for them.

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What "things" have I done to prove i am an "incel"?

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Funny you want me to prove a claim I make when you won't do that yourself?

How about you tell me why you look past Bush getting us into a war and then I will provide how you prove to be an incel? Sound good?

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Weirdos and deviants do weird stuff in public and destroy stuff, normal people notice and don’t endorse weird deviants behavior, weird deviants “Why are you noticing?”

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What are you referring to... "destroy stuff"?

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100% !!

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Tread lightly friend. You're in danger of being called a racist misogynist phobe if you don't like diversity being shoved down your throat. So open wide and take it deep, otherwise you're fascist.

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Hey, if you're not being called a racist misogynistic fascist on a daily basis.......... then you are not doing it right!


😅😂 .........ðŸĪĢ

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100% 👍

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Regardless of your opinion, who knows, the user you are replying to is openly fascist and white supremacist.

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You forgot that he also hates babies, and his favorite hobby is to kick puppies wherever he sees them.

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I mean I'm not making this up. He openly identifies as a fascist and white supremacist.

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Is Forbes.com waycist bigots?

https://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2024/06/06/the-critics-must-be-crazy---the-acolyte-is-just-another-mediocre-star-wars-show/

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Forbes is white supremacy and the patriarchy bro. Math is also racist and White supremacist.

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Don't forget about roads! They are racist too. That Butt edge edge guy told me so.

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Booty Judge. As gay as a day in may.

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Did you see it?

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I don't support the projects of Harvey Weinstein's acolyte. Why do you?

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You're complaining about a series you have no intention of watching and want to prevent others from watching it too?

Live and let live, dude!

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Weinstein's Victims Lives Matter!

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Not to progressives...

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Apparently self proclaimed "progressives" don't actually Believe All Women.

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They believe all women... as long as they are progressive women.

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Everyone who down voted it is racist and misogynistic? Also if the fanbase doesn’t like it shouldn’t Disney be trying to make something that they will enjoy? Continuing to make stuff they know the fanbase doesn’t want is like continually putting sugar in your gas tank thinking it’s going to work each time.

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they are relevant because they pay to see the movies.

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"Audience reviews are irrelevant when they are racist and misogynistic."

Not really since they're a small minority. Kennedy already said she doesn't want the haters' money, therefore they should get lost.

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If Kathy were so confident that the only people who didn’t like the show were a minority of “racist toxic trolls” then she wouldn’t be running defense control. Apparently that minority has a lot of control over her and you.

Also why do you care so much? Why is it so important to you that everyone likes what you like?

I’ve also yet to see any evidence of your racist, toxic fanbase attacking Disney , except for rightfully pointing out legitimate criticisms. Maybe you should have your facts straight before you make such vile smears.

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Telling trolls to get lost isn't "defense control".

I never wrote that I like Disney Star Wars.

You're projecting. You can't be much if a female and POC in a Disney series unhinges you.

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First of all they aren’t trolls, they are pointing out legitimate criticisms , secondly if Disney is so convinced they are just a minority of trolls then why are they so triggered by them? If we see supposed to ignore the negative reviews should we also ignore the positive shill reviews that Disney paid for?

Also what have I said that insinuates that I just don’t want women POCs in Star Wars? I’m against bad writing in Star Wars and it seems you are the one who is “projecting”.

I also asked you why you care so much what the “racist toxic trolls” are doing as they have no impact on your ability to enjoy the show. It sounds like both you and Disney aren’t very secure with yourselves.


You and Disney are one and the same, just call people who point out legitimate criticisms “racist”, “toxic”, etc. it’s all just a defense mechanism to shield the fact that Disney Star Wars is a disaster. The acolyte now has a lower RT score than the holiday special, live with that race baiter.

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You're saying if someone gives a 1/10 rating for Star Wars: A New Hope for the only reason being the main character is a white male, then it's a legitimate criticism and rating.

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I have yet to see anyone give The Acolyte a 1/10 just because it didn’t star white men, however I’ve seen plenty of people praise The Acolyte because it stared DEI quotas. I have also seen people criticize The Acolyte because they went out of their way to cast and hire “diversity” instead of people who had talent and knew what they were doing, that’s not the same as criticizes the Acolyte because it didn’t star any white men. You’re attempting to set up a false premise, race baiter. Also it’s Disney who went out of their way to cast and hire people just because they checked off the correct DEI quotas, not because of their artistic talent. You and Disney are the only ones who are obsessed with race and gender.

Also no one in their right mind thinks The Acolyte is anywhere near as a good as A New Hope is.

Why didn’t you answer any of my questions? Are you interested in having an actual discussion or are you more comfortable deflecting and throwing out disgusting smears and insults. I’ll ask again: If the people who don’t like the Acolyte are a “minority of racists and sexists” then why do you care what they think? They literally have no impact on your ability to enjoy The Acolyte? The only explanation I can see is you are a very insecure person and you need validation from strangers.

I think deep down you are jealous that we get more enjoyment out of making fun of Disney Star Wars than you do from watching it.

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"Nobody wants to watch something made by and for lesbians and non-binary women of color.
We don't want diversity. We don't want inclusion. We don't want representation. And we sure as shit don't want equity."

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He clearly said he didn’t want to watch a show FOR lesbians. That’s a lot different than saying you don’t want to watch a show that just happened to start black lesbians. He sees it as a show whose priority is to promote DEI and LGBTQ propaganda and not telling a Star Wars story. You took his words out of context. I’m sure that if the show was respectful to the lore, didn’t prioritize DEI, was well written and was entertaining he wouldn’t have a problem with it. You’re a liar and a race baiter.

Also i said I had yet to see anyone give the show a 1 just because it didn’t star white men, you posted an anonymous chat room poster which is quite different and also said nothing about white men, just that he was sick of “the message” being prioritized over telling a story. You also ignored like 90 percent of my last post btw.

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"Audience reviews are irrelevant when they are racist and misogynistic."
Keep repeating it enough times until it becomes true.

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They have nothing to do with the quality of the movie or TV series. I'll repeat until your reading comprehension improves.

rif.org
You're welcome!

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So what do you blame this series's terrible rating on?

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LOL The Acolyte is now more hated than the Holiday Special, I find that hilarious.

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I tried watching the Holiday special and couldn't get past the first scene.

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IkR, it’s pathetic that people would apparently rather watch a wookie watching porn than watch the acolyte

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"Nobody wants to watch something made by and for lesbians and non-binary women of color.
We don't want diversity. We don't want inclusion. We don't want representation. And we sure as shit don't want equity."

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Also I noticed that the acolyte is getting destroyed on IMDb also, was that also “review bombed”

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from a bunch of alt right nazis that hate women

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Says the degenerate woke retard.
You are a detriment to society. A burden.
We can't coexist.

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I don't understand why men prefer watching men in movies and tv shows rather than women. I mean, I'm a woman and would rather watch guys in costume, I wish everything was all men all the time. This just seems so weird to me.

Is it a homoerotic impulse for guys to want to watch other men?

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Seriously?...

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very half-assed troll. try harder, as my grade 6 teacher wrote on my report card.

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You are right. You don't understand. This is true. There are many things women don't understand or can't seem to grasp.... this or that should be equal... It isn't and that is how it is.

Even whether you understand it or not.
Just accept Reality.

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Ahh an attempt to bash women by implying that I'm stupid because I'm a women. I expected as much. That answers my question. Thank you.

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Exactly where did I call you stupid?
YOU publically admitted you don't understand. This is a very common, very well understood, very public knowledge thing, that every one knows about women NOT UNDERSTANDING men. Like AT ALL. When we are really very simple.

Here yet another example of our unequal differences: you can tell me that I don't understand why women don't understand men.... I would agree and accept this fact.... but I would not feel that you were calling me stupid.


Also reread all the others replies to your post from other men here. We're all saying the same thing.

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Oh please, don't embarrass yourself by trying to back out of what was CLEARLY an assertion that women are stupid.

If you are going to say "There are many things women don't understand or can't seem to grasp," at least have the integrity to own up to what you meant by that.

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I explained it perfectly. No reason to deep dive it. YOU said you didn't understand. Case closed right there.

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It's not that we don't like watching women, we do, but they have to be in their proper roles. Feminine roles. As for men, we want to see strong masculine capable men. It's simple really. We watch men we want to be like or identify with on some level. And we watch women we want to be with.

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If they are warriors, it turns you off, thanks. Why does it turn you off? What would you like to see women doing?

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Generally speaking, it is a turn-off. We want to see feminine women in traditional gender roles who like men and want to be with us.
However, watching a woman being a bad-ass can occasionally be entertaining, but she has to 'earn' it in some way. Think of Uma Thurman in Kill Bill or Ripley from Aliens. They are both warriors, but they are special and rare. They still retain their feminine traits but are put into extreme situations where they are tested. Through sheer strength and perseverance, they make it out alive. That is something men respect. That's why you don't hear any men calling them woke or a girl boss.

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I'm happy to see women in a variety of roles, just like I am men. You don't speak for everyone.

Also is Ripley from Aliens the only film that anti-woke TCD-types know that features an action female lead? I guess you also named Kill-bill.

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Well there is also Sarah Connor in Terminator 2. But of course anti-Wokes bring that one up too so...
But if you notice, there is a logic to it. As I said in my reply above to Jinx, men will accept women as warriors but only in rare cases. So naturally there will only be a few women who fit the bill (no pun intended). And that is Uma Thurman from Kill Bill, Ripley from Alien, and Sarah Connor from T2. If you put a warrior woman in every other movie then they are no longer rare and men will reject them because they will feel artificial.

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Oh yes, Terminator 2. The same 3-4 movies.

I specifically was referring to the notion that men just want to see women always in feminine roles all the time.

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I appreciate that. I'm happy to see that some men don't feel threatened by a woman outside of roles where a lot of men would like to put us.

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What?
Almost NO MEN ever feel "threatened" by women.
But you won't hear that from them because that doesn't get you pussy. We say what ever you like hearing... the philosophy de jour.

Are you one of those feminist nazis that drops buzzwords like mansplaining and toxic masculinity?

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Many men, and by my short observation YOU, feel threatened by a woman who has power over them whether it is a female employer that can tell them what to do or a woman that makes more money than they do or is more intelligent.

Denying that is just silly. You are either in denial about that common knowledge or you know it and are pretending you don't because you don't want to appear weak by admitting it.

You already said that you are disingenuous, a liar who will tell a woman whatever you think they want to hear so that you can have sex with them. Maybe this has worked for you in the past but it doesn't create or maintain lasting, loving relationships. How sad for you.

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see... you assume I am "treatened". typical feminazi. there's no reason for us to try to communicate.

I NEVER said "I am a liar" I posted a common example - I personally don't do that, it was an example for discuss about generality, but you go personal. this is dumb. no need to continue.

feelings feelings blah blah blah good day to you sir

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You just sound so stupid, I'm having a tough time believing that anyone can be so unaware of how they sound.

"But you won't hear that from them because that doesn't get you pussy. We say what ever you like hearing... the philosophy de jour."

You said "we", if 'we' doesn't include YOU, you would have used THEY. Now you are saying that you don't do that? Well, you are right, this is dumb. So dumb.

You are so triggered by what I've said and then try to play it off like you're not.

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I still haven't heard what you want to see women in films and television DOING. What traditional gender roles do you want to see?

You have listed examples of women being a bad-ass that you can tolerate and I think I get it, you don't want them to start out kicking ass you want them to build up to it. Can you explain why that is a distinction?

I know what you mean by 'traditional gender roles', but as a woman, I can tell you that I am an individual and I don't fit into a box. Traditional gender roles are things that generally try to suppress women. It keeps us from being perceived as leaders and threatens men when we receive a high level of education and income. I understand why men like women to be confined to feminine gender roles but thankfully there is a reason why those roles are going away.

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I think most people - men and women - just want to see shows that are well-written. When we see shows that are poorly-written, we switch them off and rip on them; it's a good laugh. But the reason why we see vitriol aimed at shows like the Acolyte is because they are not so much well-written or poorly-written as they are written to serve a political message. Audiences know that we're being fed propaganda, not a TV series.

Now, I'm not going to directly comment on the Acolyte; I haven't watched it, and so that wouldn't be fair. But this seems to be what people are responding to. If that perception is correct or incorrect, I don't know, but the way Disney has sold their incarnation of Star Wars has been on "diversity first," and so fans are just making that assumption whether or not it's true. When something comes out that has bad writing (or that is perceived to have it) fans get mad.

This is a roundabout way of answering your question. But, basically, the TL;DR is that audiences don't want women doing any one thing. What we want is to feel that we're watching a story.

And back to the non-TL;DR... This is the difference between the best-written episodes of shows like Dr. Who or Star Trek and the worst ones. The messaging about comity between peoples in Balance of Terror doesn't feel like it's being rammed down our throats, it feels like a natural extension of the story. When Rose encounters the Dalek for the first time and finds the Doctor's hatred of the Dalek repugnant, we see this through her eyes and take in messages about hatred and racism without feeling lectured. But when showrunners and producers and executives go on interviews and say, "We don't like white men and we didn't make this show for them," then those white men who do watch the show are going in feeling belittled and spat upon, so if it doesn't follow up with some top-tier writing, they go, "This is woke garbage," and then come on here and complain. This shouldn't be surprising.

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Commenters have made it perfectly clear that it's down to an aversion to women being in certain roles rather than bad writing though.

I know you responded with a lot of your feelings and I appreciate that but lets be realistic here.

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Fair enough, that does seem to be running around on this thread.

For what it's worth, I think confining either sex to specific roles or jobs is silly - particularly on-screen where we enjoy suspension of disbelief so 90lbs of River can beat the snot out of a bar's worth of ne'er-do-wells in Serenity. Unless it's historical. It'd be hard to take Saving Private Ryan seriously if they'd dropped Tom Sizemore to get another Tom Hanks/Meg Ryan flick.

Bottom line: nobody's sex should prohibit them from jobs, least of all in films of imagination.

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Roles like being homemakers, caregivers, nurses, secretaries, etc. So not leadership roles. Men generally don't want to be led by women, with rare exceptions. They don't want to be subservient to a woman.

You have listed examples of women being a bad-ass that you can tolerate and I think I get it, you don't want them to start out kicking ass you want them to build up to it. Can you explain why that is a distinction?

Like I already said, I think it's about struggle and overcoming it. Men respect that. So a woman that has gone into the crucible and made it through is someone that men will respect. It will change the way they think about them. And it will be easier to accept them as a bad-ass. Something that normally would be absurd.
I know what you mean by 'traditional gender roles', but as a woman, I can tell you that I am an individual and I don't fit into a box. Traditional gender roles are things that generally try to suppress women. It keeps us from being perceived as leaders and threatens men when we receive a high level of education and income. I understand why men like women to be confined to feminine gender roles but thankfully there is a reason why those roles are going away.

Those roles going away is why our society is disintegrating. It's why there is now a growing divide between men and women. It's why both are less happy then they have ever been. Being an independent girl boss sounds great on paper but it leads to unhappiness for many women. Likewise for guys, it sounds nice to have no responsibility and play video games all day and watch porn or have one night stands, but it won't lead to happiness. Traditional patriarchal families existed for most of history. Why should we think that we of all people (in the West), just in the last 50 years, figured out something better?

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>Roles like being homemakers, caregivers, nurses, secretaries, etc. So not leadership roles. Men generally don't want to be led by women, with rare exceptions. They don't want to be subservient to a woman.

Based on what do you claim this at all?

In TV I have watched, Babylon Berlin - female co-lead becomes a police detective (and then a journalist) and does a ton of sleuthing across the series.

Black Sails - Nassau's commerce led by a woman. A notable female pirate in Anne Bonny in Vane's crew who is adept with daggers.

Mr Robot - Darlene, Elliots sister is a hacker almost as good as he. Dom is a detective.

Farscape - Aeryn Sunn is a peacekeeper soldier. Main cast. Multiple action/tech/leader women show up across the series.

Battlestar Galactica - Starbuck is one of the top fighter pilots in the remake. Boomer is also a major part of the fighter pilots. The President is woman named Laura Roslin. It's a critically acclaimed TV show.

The Expanse - Naomi Nagata and Drummer, both in tech/leadership roles. Avasarala is a major political figure on Earth.

Warrior - Mai Ling and Ah Toy, one a mob leader, the other runs a brothel and is an adept sword-fighter.

Silo - The lead is a female mechanic.

Altered Carbon - Female lead in S01 is a cop called Kristin Ortega.

Counterpart - Assassin named Baldwin. Multiple female deep agents.

Severance - One of the bosses is a woman: Ms. Cobel.

HOTD - Both Rhaenyra and Alicent are in positions of authority and power.

All of these shows are highly acclaimed.

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There are exceptions.

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I can keep naming more. These are all women not in roles you claim men only tolerate them in. And those shows are well-acclaimed.

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The person asked what I meant by traditional roles. I gave a list of some examples of traditional roles. I didn't give an exhaustive list. This does not mean that there aren't other roles like detective or assassin that women can't play. And then there are leadership roles that women can play but they have to be written well, otherwise they won't be accepted. Most writers can't pull it off. Even in something as well written as Black Sails, I couldn't buy Max as a leader. I could buy Eleanor Guthrie though.

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>The person asked what I meant by traditional roles. I gave a list of some examples of traditional roles. I didn't give an exhaustive list.

"Roles like being homemakers, caregivers, nurses, secretaries, etc. So not leadership roles."

In almost every example I gave in those shows, women are in leadership or important decision-making roles. They are all well acclaimed. People are quite happy to see women in a large variety of roles unrelated to traditional ideals about feminity.

>And then there are leadership roles that women can play but they have to be written well, otherwise they won't be accepted. Most writers can't pull it off. Even in something as well written as Black Sails, I couldn't buy Max as a leader. I could buy Eleanor Guthrie though.

You say this as if men aren't sometimes considered poor leaders too. Max being unconvincing to you (or others) is purely based on how she's played. Plenty of men portray unconvincing leaders too.

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The person asked me what traditional roles I would like to see.

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You also followed up with: "Men generally don't want to be led by women, with rare exceptions. They don't want to be subservient to a woman."

I mean, that's it though, is it? Women in TV should never be anything other than housewives, nurses, secretaries and caregivers? Or some approximation of those roles? Talk about muting modern media culture. Remember my point about how the soft power of censorious nations is fucking shit.

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You know, I was just thinking why I find conversations with you so exhausting. And why I think of you as an autist. It's because you consistently fail to practice the principle of charity. Instead of giving people the benefit of the doubt, you interpret their words in the worst possible way and then persistently badger them about it. It's really gross behavior.
I think it's time for time out. Go stand in the corner now and think about the way you're acting.

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Why should I extend any charity to you whatsoever? What charity do you share to anyone else? You specifically set out your original post to imply that you, and all men think a certain way about women and only want to see them in generic feminine roles.

And this is a public forum, I'll reply to whoever the fuck I like.

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See, if it was just me, it would be one thing, I am a radical conservative and you're a progressive cunt, so I could see why you would be hostile. But that is not what is happening here. You behave this way with other people. This is not a difference of opinion or a heated argument, this is a personality disorder.
Genuine question: Are you actually capable of showing empathy? Because despite my reactionary politics and my hyperbolic rhetoric I have demonstrated it a number of times on these forums. Where as you with all you progressive feel good politics, I don't think I have ever seen you say a kind word to anyone here. Do you even have emotions? I mean I managed to tease out the anger out of you, but not much else.

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>See, if it was just me, it would be one thing, I am a radical conservative and you're a progressive cunt, so I could see why you would be hostile. But that is not what is happening here. You behave this way with other people. This is not a difference of opinion or a heated argument, this is a personality disorder.

I don't really care what you think about how I behave. I'll respond to whoever I like, whenever I like, and however I like. Most of the other people you seem me talking to with thinly-veiled hatred are other borderline fascists and theocrats on here.

>Genuine question: Are you actually capable of showing empathy?

What fucking empathy should I show to you exactly? You are a self-admitted fascist who wants to use the arm of the state to exile/kill/arrest all LGBT people, all non-whites and all "woke"/progressive/liberals. Who the fuck are you to lecture me or anyone about empathy? You don't even think I should have the legal right to disagree with you. What charity do you expect from me?

>Because despite my reactionary politics and my hyperbolic rhetoric I have demonstrated it a number of times on these forums.

I don't give a flying fuck. This is like asking someone to emphasise with Hitler or Pol Pot because they can be courteous to someone else. It's genuinely utterly laughable.

>Where as you with all you progressive feel good politics, I don't think I have ever seen you say a kind word to anyone here. Do you even have emotions? I mean I managed to tease out the anger out of you, but not much else.

What a little crybully you are. And the comedy is that you're doing it because I pressed you on your insistence that women should only essentially be servants in TV shows or films.

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I think the fact that you are being schooled on empathy by a fascist says more about you.

What a little crybully you are. And the comedy is that you're doing it because I pressed you on your insistence that women should only essentially be servants in TV shows or films.

That's not what happened. I just noticed myself getting bored and exhausted talking to you and I wondered why? So I took a moment to think about it and realized that there is something wrong with you. And it has nothing to do with me or my politics or the incendiary shit I say sometimes. It's just you. You are like this with others. People who are not bloodthirsty fascists. People who try to have genuine conversations with you. You treat them the same way. So why? What is your malfunction?

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>I think the fact that you are being schooled on empathy by a fascist says more about you.

Claiming that you're "schooling me" isn't the same as actually doing so. You aren't showing any empathy at all. You never show any empathy to anyone. It's a crude attempt at manipulation. You're crying that I'm not deferring to you, or treating you with some measure of respect that you seem to think you deserve.

>That's not what happened. I just noticed myself getting bored and exhausted talking to you and I wondered why? So I took a moment to think about it and realized that there is something wrong with you. And it has nothing to do with me or my politics or the incendiary shit I say sometimes. It's just you. You are like this with others. People who are not bloodthirsty fascists.

Who else am I like it with? Name names.

>People who try to have genuine conversations with you. You treat them the same way. So why? What is your malfunction?

I was "having a conversation with you" until you threw your toys out of the pram this time.

Loaded question: "When did you stop beating your wife". And I repeat my original question:

What fucking empathy should I show to you exactly, and about what? You are a self-admitted fascist who wants to use the arm of the state to exile/kill/arrest all LGBT people, all non-whites and all "woke"/progressive/liberals. Who the fuck are you to lecture me or anyone about empathy? You don't even think I should have the legal right to disagree with you. What charity do you expect from me?

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Claiming that you're "schooling me" isn't the same as actually doing so. You aren't showing any empathy at all. You never show any empathy to anyone. It's a crude attempt at manipulation. You're crying that I'm not deferring to you, or treating you with some measure of respect that you seem to think you deserve.

Wrong again Bob. I am genuinely curious to know what is wrong with you. And I don't care how you are with me, you can be a cunt, I'm fine with it. I just want to know why you are a cunt to other people? People who don't deserve it? I'm not going to take the time to go through all your posts, but I will often see your responses to other people and it's the same hostile tone. Same autistic badgering. A number of people have already complained about it in one way or another. Some of them to you directly. Maybe you don't even realize that you're doing it.
But whatever... Keep doing what you're doing. Let others see you for what you really are. A cunt. And not a funny entertaining kind of cunt, but an emotionally draining, soul crushing, kind of cunt.

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>Wrong again Bob. I am genuinely curious to know what is wrong with you.

Nothing is wrong with me anymore than many other people, and I have zero interest in discussing anything about my life with a white supremacist racist.

> I just want to know why you are a cunt to other people?

Who are these people? The only people I'm a "cunt" to on here in the sense of outright hostility are other fascist-types.

> I'm not going to take the time to go through all your posts, but I will often see your responses to other people and it's the same hostile tone. Same autistic badgering. A number of people have already complained about it in one way or another. Some of them to you directly. Maybe you don't even realize that you're doing it.

I reply to people's posts. They reply to me, and I then reply back to them. I open up threads and sometimes I see them again and see them make absurd or outrageous or hateful comments. And I respond to many of them. So fucking what? They should stop being such delicate little snowflakes that people replying to them on a forum triggers them like little babies.

>But whatever... Keep doing what you're doing. Let others see you for what you really are. A cunt. And not a funny entertaining kind of cunt, but an emotionally draining, soul crushing, kind of cunt.

I will again, re-ask as you ignored it:

What fucking empathy should I show to you exactly, and about what? You are a self-admitted fascist who wants to use the arm of the state to exile/kill/arrest all LGBT people, all non-whites and all "woke"/progressive/liberals. Who the fuck are you to lecture me or anyone about empathy? You don't even think I should have the legal right to disagree with you. What charity do you expect from me?

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I answered you multiple times. I don't expect anything resembling charity from you towards me. I just don't think other people deserve to be treated like that by you.

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You originally complained that I wasn't being charitable to you (you were referring to this conversation).

And who are people who I have been unfairly charitable to? You still can't name any.

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You are misrepresenting what I've said. Something you often do.
I wasn't complaining about you not being charitable towards me. It's just that while talking to you I realized that that is what makes talking to you exhausting. And then I realized that you're like that with other people (Which has nothing to do with me). So I wanted to bring it to your attention and ask you why you are like this.

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I only, shall we say, respond abruptly, scornful, indignant against would-be tyrants, fascists, theocracts and autocrat minded users. You're making claims here and not providing a single user example. Almost every user here who does not like me is, and I argue strongly on this, without exception highly partisan far-right users.

What you insist without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

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Ok, lol, settle down there Hitchens.

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I have no sympathy for any man who can't handle a woman being in a leadership role or having to be subservient to a woman. That's just too damn bad. Times have changed, thankfully giving women the opportunity to use their intelligence and skills which you should be extremely grateful for since a lot of women are surgeon's and coming up with cures for diseases. Women were prevented from these positions by men for long enough. The world is a better place with us being able to contribute.

Those traditional roles going away is used as a reason for all of the problems in society by men who don't like being dethroned and kick and scream because they don't get to make all of the rules anymore.

Trust me, it doesn't make women 'unhappy' to not be under a man's thumb anymore and it's ridiculous for you to suggest something like that. Men who can't handle a world where women are increasingly becoming equal to them are causing their own divide between the sexes. What are you talking about men not having any responsibility and playing video games and watching porn all day? You are going to blame that on women's liberation. That's really sad and it's no wonder why guys like you are so unhappy.

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I'm not unhappy. But apparently many young men are.

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So we should limit ourselves because having any kind of power makes these men 'unhappy'?

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Do whatever you want to do. But take a moment to think why do you want do it? Is it something you truly want? Something you were just born to do? Or do you want it because you've been told all your life by society that you should be a girl boss? Because if it's the latter, then what happens when the pendulum swings and society tells you that you should be a stay-at-home mom? That this is what should make you happy?
Food for thought.

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Ah yes, Jinx doesn't know what she wants and should be content to just be subservient to men and only really ever wants to see women in fiction and in life defer to and bow and scrape towards men.

All these really successful tv shows and films that lots of people like that depict women as being something other than housewives or nurses or maids aren't really successful, and we were all just manipulated into liking them.

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Aren't you supposed to be standing in a corner and thinking about what a cunt you are?

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I don't do what you want. You have not provided a single example of when I have treated unfairly anyone on here who isn't identified as an overt fascist, or theocrat or otherwise authoritarian psychopath of some flavour. Or people who have thrown unfounded accusations my way.

In short, as you well know, I'll do whatever I want.

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LOL. Shut yo' bitch ass up!

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I don't do what you want. You have not provided a single example of when I have treated unfairly anyone on here who isn't identified as an overt fascist, or theocrat or otherwise authoritarian psychopath of some flavour. Or people who have thrown unfounded accusations my way.

In short, as you well know, I'll do whatever I want.

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You's a whole bitch!

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Why do I want to be myself? Yes, I was born to be me and it's what I want.

I haven't been told by society that I should be a 'girl boss' I don't know what society you live in but I've never been told that by the society I grew up in. The one that told me that men don't like educated, strong women who are leaders.

Society doesn't tell me who I am. I do.

Does society tell you who you have to be? Who is that?

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Right now society is telling people like me to shut up and listen (to women, queers, and minorities).
It's telling me to feel guilty for what others who look like me have done to them in the past.
It's telling me that I owe them something because they were marginalized in the past.
It's telling me that I have to associate with people who I don't want to associate with.
They are telling me that if I disagree with any of this, or even dare question it, I'm a bad person.

So, yeah, I decided I want to be the bad guy. The worst kind. A racist, misogynist, homophobic, transphobic, ableist. A fascist. A White supremacist. And a Nazi.

I don't give a shit about women, queers, or minorities. I don't feel guilty about anything. I don't owe them shit. And whatever privilege or power I have, I deserve to have and will fight to the death to keep.

So yeah society is trying to tell me a lot of things. I just refuse to listen. I'm stubborn that way.

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>Right now society is telling people like me to shut up and listen (to women, queers, and minorities).

What? Society, in a general sense is saying that women and minorities should be able to choose what careers they have. And that LGBT people should be able to exist without being persecuted.

>It's telling me to feel guilty for what others who look like me have done to them in the past.

Not a policy. You don't have to think this. No-one forces you to say this.

>It's telling me that I owe them something because they were marginalized in the past.

See above.

>It's telling me that I have to associate with people who I don't want to associate with.

You can associate with who you like in your friend group.

>They are telling me that if I disagree with any of this, or even dare question it, I'm a bad person.

I don't think that at all. People shouldn't feel guilty nor owe someone something for actions of their ancestors. To the extent that I do think you're bad for some of the things you think, I don't think you should be legally sanctioned for it.

>So, yeah, I decided I want to be the bad guy. The worst kind. A racist, misogynist, homophobic, transphobic, ableist. A fascist. A White supremacist. And a Nazi.

So you're that weak-willed, that small-minded and stupid that you had to embrace and become a caricature of what /some/ people might accuse you of?

>I don't give a shit about women, queers, or minorities. I don't feel guilty about anything. I don't owe them shit. And whatever privilege or power I have, I deserve to have and will fight to the death to keep.

What privilege and power are people trying to take away from you? What privilege and power do you think you currently have?

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Shut up fuckface. No one is talking to you. Get out of here! Go on! Git! Shoo! Gggrrrr!

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"I don't give a shit about women, queers, or minorities. I don't feel guilty about anything. I don't owe them shit. And whatever privilege or power I have, I deserve to have and will fight to the death to keep."

You sound insecure, poor and weak. And a nerdy loser for having a kiddie show unhinge you.

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"I don't give a shit about women, queers, or minorities. I don't feel guilty about anything. I don't owe them shit. And whatever privilege or power I have, I deserve to have and will fight to the death to keep."

You sound insecure, poor and weak. And a nerdy loser for having a kiddie show unhinge you.

Nothing in that statement suggests that I am insecure, poor, or weak. That's nothing but a feeble and inept attempt at provocation. What my statement does demonstrate is a frustration and disgust with an agenda that is degrading our culture and weakening our society. That's what 'unhinged' me. Not some kiddie show that I don't even watch. It's the endless barrage of woke garbage that I have to see every time I turn on the TV.

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Your roles going away paragraph nails it.

Why don't people see this obvious truth?? It's so freaking obvious.

And yeah, no one gives a shit about girl boss. And delusional women THINK that attracts men. Pffffff dumb

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Thank you.

And yeah, no one gives a shit about girl boss. And delusional women THINK that attracts men. Pffffff dumb

They would probably say that they need no man. And then later complain that no one wants them and that they are alone.

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I'm being TOLD that I am "threatened" by women, or maybe strong women? I don't know, don't care, am no where near any threatened by anything, but I do feel bad for these delusional women, that don't understand, ADMIT they don't understand, then struggle back tracking and supporting what they are saying. It's just sad.

And they don't get WHY all this is happening. Exactly explained in your statements above.

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I have women in my life that are both feminine and strong. But they are not cringey woke girl bosses. In fact, they are as anti-woke and anti-pc as you can get. Even more than me, and I'm pretty hardcore.

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yep, there's tons of great women out there. they're just much, much quieter than fad-following ones.

Though it is not for me, the huge success of ONLY FANS proves this modern toxic feminsm crap fails hard. Where's the ONLY FEMINISTS site? I bet that is popular... bahahhahahaa

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You have a good point. You must have hit a nerve.

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There are some very brittle egos on this chat site and when you break them down they basically admit what we all know.

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I agree. Some of them run back to their self-imposed bubble and hide from reality.

Imagine being so emotionally fragile that one kiddie series from a female POC viewpoint completely enrages and unhinges them. What losers!

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I wonder what made them flock to this site? I stopped coming here because it's some sort of HUB for toxic far right Trump worshipers.

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lol, not liking a show makes you a Nazi? Also the Star Wars fanbase is mostly male so wouldn’t it make sense to make something that would appeal to males? Women typically don’t like male IPs that were rebranded for females.

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KingBob spittin' facts and fire.

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It's majority male because it starred males. Now, it stars females. See how that works?

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No that's not how it works. The way it works is that it was a good story revolving around a straight White male. That over decades garnered a very large following. A following of primarily (although not exclusively) straight White males. And now that it's a terrible show, revolving around queer ugly women of color, it alienated that large following, which means at best the only people who will watch it are a small minority of degenerates. And no one except the Wokes in Hollywood are stupid enough to make a show catering to them and expecting it to be a success.

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No one is trashing the show because it stars mostly females. People are trashing the show because they see it as not respecting the franchise, has bad acting and seems to be putting an agenda ahead of telling a story.

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The OP SAID he is a Nazi.

"So, yeah, I decided I want to be the bad guy. The worst kind. A racist, misogynist, homophobic, transphobic, ableist. A fascist. A White supremacist. And a Nazi."

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20%

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Damn! The Acolyte is doing the limbo. How low can it go?

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19% now, just a few hours later.

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Limbo low
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMdZ4ZPq8Rw

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Now 17%. Burrowing lower every day.

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Maybe we should start taking bets. Do I hear 16? anyone, anyone?
How low will it go?
Place your bets ladies and gentlemen.

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We have 16. 16 ladies and gentlemen, who'll go 15?

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How low can we go?!? LIMBO LOW!

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15% now. I wonder if audience scores can get into negative numbers.

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Damn, when I started this thread I was only joking about this going limbo low.
I'm placing my bet now. I think it will drop to 10%. Anyone else?

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T-minus 14%...

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Wow. And it's 3.5 on IMDB. That's pretty bad.

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Its down to 19% now, lets check in tomoro

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18%

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Say Goodbye to the prospect of a season 2

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Oh, Disney never learns, they might even make a 2nd Season!

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Oh no. Not 5,000 reviewers out of millions of viewers and millions more subscribers. Oh whatever will Disney do.

I heard they keep losing zillions of dollars every year, too! Wow must be a money laundering scam or a Ponzi scheme or something. I just don't understand! ðŸĪŠ I just know that Disney's going broke any minute now.

3. 2. 1.. any minute
Any.. minute now. Just you watch.
Here it comes... any moment...
ðŸĪĄ

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nobody claimed disney is going broke. they have huge investors backing them up, so they wont go down any time soon.

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Well at least you admit it. Investors invest to make money - not lose it - and make it, they do, by the shitload.

The last they they'd need to do is "learn" something from the minority of tired dying boomer brains forever stuck in the past. Good on Disney. ðŸĨ‚

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They're making a second season of Ahsoka and that was fucking pig slop.

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16%

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hehe nice

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why does anyone still use that site?

If a film gets 100 reviews where the film is scored equally 51 out 100, it gets 100% fresh rating - lol

When we think of 100%, we think it must be an amazing film. When we think 51/100, we think it's subpar BS.

Yet - 100% is what you are shown on that site @@

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Disney put out "The Mandalorian," as their first post-Lucas TV project. But, after that, it isn't surprising that everything that came after that was a case of diminishing returns. This one is set in the "High Republic" era, which Lucas never created. And, it was built up in comics, which only comic book fans or dedicated current-era Disney "Star Wars" fans have read.

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they are racists

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who? the rotten tomatoes?

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incels on parade

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If that's true, then maybe TV shows should be made for racists. Then they will have higher scores and make more money.

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Yeah, thanks to darkpast we have cracked the case. If networks and content producers want views and good scores then that is what they have to do.

darkpast, racism's biggest promoter.

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I know. I hear many people like Darkpast make that argument and try to scare people into backing down by labeling them racists. Usually people just get defensive when confronted like that, but if you play into it, then the solution becomes obvious — make content that caters to racists. Then everyone except the Wokes will be happy. And Wokes don't matter. They're always unhappy, so fuck them. They won't be happy until they ruin everything with their ideology.

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