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My prediction: she will De-transition


Why? Because this whole thing is about attention.

First it was ‘look at me, I’m a lesbian’

Then ‘look at me, I’m trans’

Then ‘look at me, I cut my tits off’

But already people have stopped caring, and her acting career is going nowhere. Plus, being trans is already becoming tired, it’s no longer the trendy new thing and medical institutions that pushed it are backing down.

De-transitioning? That’s interesting, that’s a news story, and an especially big story for a high profile transformer like Page.

So expect some big fake tits and no doubt many other surgeries until one day Page looks in the mirror and sees a grotesque mutant where there could have been an attractive woman with a family, and decides to eat a bullet.

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Likely. Always detected a real aggressive narcissism in Ellen Page.

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She seemed so normal in the Juno days, what a pitiable monster actually lay underneath.

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I hate to say this, but I think she'll off herself at some point.

There's nothing wrong with being born a lesbian - it's the way nature formed her. But despite her sexual orientation, men and women (lesbian or not) are still wired differently, and she'll discover that she's no man and also realize she butchered her body. No amount of detransitioning or surgical reconstruction will ever restore her to what she was.

She got caught up in the mania of today and leapt before she really looked.

This has to take a toll on her. I honestly hope she can find self forgiveness, acceptance, and eventually peace to what she did.

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There's nothing wrong with being born a lesbian - it's the way nature formed her.


LOL nature did not form her that way. Nature forms organisms based on biological essentialism at the core; ergo, nature does not purposely design a species with the only intent being to kill itself off.

I can almost guarantee you Page was either molested/raped as a young child by a man and resented/hated them for that, or she was abused/neglected heavily by her father and developed a complex of wanting to emulate/be a man as a way to compensate for the neglect/abuse/trauma.

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DUDE...DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MANY GAYS AND LESBIANS YOUR "THEORY" DOES NOT APPLY TO IN THE SLIGHTEST?

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Yeah, None. People have gone around interviewing various gay people and THEY ALL SAID two things, they were sexually molested as kids (aka the way gays reproduce) and THEY ALL prefer chasing young straight men (using their usually psychological manipulation mixed with drugs). They get turned on by the psychological manipulation and inflicting trauma, the same way a rapist gets off on the power more than the sex, the same way a serial killer gets off on the scheming than the sex with the lifeless bodies. These people are not well mentally. Trying to empower them instead of getting them help is a GRAVE mistake.

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Do you have any source material for your theory?

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Go into a gay nightclub and ask them.

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So no, you don't. I figured as much.

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Right. Yeah, you crack that one wide open. P'fsst. What's a matter, too stupid to conduct your own study? Does witty baby need an authority figure to tell them what's what? Can't Baby Einstein put two and two together and figure it out? Awwwww. I guess sharing the same traits with sexual predators and pedophiles, while also targeting boys and young men and being a statistic leader in pedophiles, is too hard to figure out their motives for you. D'awwwww, you poor thing.

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You're an idiot. I'm gay, came from a stable family with two stable supportive parents, and I was never molested as a child. My partners have always been adult males.

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Can I see some evidence that every single gay person, without exception, was molested as a child?

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It figures that you would want to see that kind of evidence.

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Say what you're implying please

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You can't ask these people for evidence, they don't care about evidence because it contradicts their beliefs. They get scared when you question them and will imply that you are a pervert of some sort because they are insecure about it.

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Thank you for bluntly speaking the truth.

My flesh likes vanilla ice cream, should I eat a gallon a day and become a fat bastage on the grounds that I was "born that way"? As a married adult, if I see a 15 year-old hottie, should I pursue having sex with her simply because the thought strikes me? Obviously not. In other words, not every whim is good and should be fed, acted on, and become a lifestyle (or deathstyle). Our society has forgotten that there's something called "evil desires" -- negative, destructive desires that would be foolish to nourish and act on. If the idea strikes a guy to murder his boss, should he do it on the mistaken basis of being "born that way? It's laughable.

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Yes, you can now do, say, and think anything you like and no one can stop you or they are cancelled, a hater, or need reprogrammed to better match progressive society.

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You speak ‘truth and wisdom' wrapped around ‘common sense’; therefore, expect denialism and rejection from the libs, lol.

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SO....GAY'S ARE EVIL?🤔

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Evil doesn't just mean diabolical in, say, the Freddy Krueger sense. it's simply the opposite of good, which is why I defined it as "negative, destructive desires."

Libertine propagandists can paint the lifestyle as "gay" all they want, but homosexuals are notorious for multiple "sex" partners, sexual diseases, mental illness, premature death and suicide. Look at the stats from any genuine (non-Leftist) source.

No society can stand for very long infected by gross sexual perversion and degeneracy. It's a Pandora's box to self-destruction. The rise & spread of such is an indication that a society is in its final stages, at least in terms of progress. How can homosexuality "spread" thru the populace if only a minute percentage are "born that way" and that's it? Why do you think homosexuals are radical about their propaganda, generally speaking, and constantly speak of "converting" people? If all homosexuals were "born that way," there would be no need to convert others to their sexual addiction.

The problem today is that our celebrities and learning institutions in Western (or Western-influenced) areas have for the most part thrown out the concept of evil or unhealthy desires. Instead they essentially teach that any desire that comes to mind is good and should be embraced & acted upon because you were “born that way,” no matter how dubious, unhealthy or perverse. It’s all about doing what “feels good” at the moment, which is the hedonist's manifesto. Anyone who doesn’t do this is “repressed.” (Rolling my eyes).

Thankfully, "the truth [reality] will set you free" (John 8:31-32) and thus freedom from any flesh-based issue is available for anyone who wants it, even if it’s a life-dominating bondage, like drug addiction, alcoholism, homosexuality, clinical depression or porn addiction.

Of course, people have personal volition and therefore have the option and right to embrace libertine propaganda and live accordingly, if they so choose. While it's a destructive path (whether physically, mentally or spiritually), it's their prerogative. They get no hate from me, just concern and pity. However, when they start grooming children and wiggling their private parts in their faces, it's a different story. Any noble citizen won't tolerate such glaring evil.

There's a reason the wisdom of the ages views homosexuality as a sin. It's a moral transgression against the Creator, self, society and nature. This explains why it was against the law and viewed negatively not long ago in America. But the tables have turned due to the spread of "gay" propaganda and now the majority support the practice. This will not benefit society but rather corrupt it, which we are seeing evidence of more and more.

Look back to Sodom, Gomorrah, Gibeah, ancient Greece and Rome, et al., all of which show that homosexuality & its spread is nothing new or "progressive." Are those who support it today "enlightened" or rather ignorantly foolish? Are those who warn of it "bigots" or simply speaking the obvious based on time-tested wisdom?

That's all I'm going to say on the topic here. Nothing I've said is "homophobic," just simple, common sense reality. You can have the last word.

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homosexuals are notorious for multiple "sex" partners, sexual diseases, mental illness, premature death and suicide.


THE SAME AS EVERY HORNY STRAIGHT ASSHOLE...LIKE KJOCEANLUST.

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I think that’s broadly true, but to be fair there are gays (and even occasionally trannies) who despise LGBTQ identity politics and have a conservative disposition.

Witness this confrontation between highly intelligent conservative homosexual Douglas Murray and screaming LGBTQ Kowalski-style gay activist James Barr:

https://youtube.com/shorts/xtuvuSf7Rok?si=6nndoX7ge8GWoBN0

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🥰

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Everyone is evil, not just gays. That's why we all need to repent, including you Kowalski. ;)

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GROSS.

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Its gross, that you think you're a good person.

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NOPE..BUT I THINK I HAVE COME A LONG WAY...I HAVE LEFT CRIME AND A LOT OF MEANNESS IN THE PAST...I AM FAIRLY TOLERANT AND ACCEPTING AND I WORK EVERYDAY TO GET EVEN BETTER.

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INSPIRING STUFF!! GOD BLESS AMERICA!!!

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EXACTLY.

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I can almost guarantee you Page was either molested/raped as a young child by a man and resented/hated them for that, or she was abused/neglected heavily by her father and developed a complex of wanting to emulate/be a man as a way to compensate for the neglect/abuse/trauma.



Oh nice, a neanderthal with a computer...


You really think homosexuality is related to molestation/rape?


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Why say that? GENERAL Statistics say 1 in 6 women are sexually abused... and his statement reads accurately based on facts of reality of life.

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reality. NO! ONLY neanderthals believe that! LOL These P.C. liberals are the dumbest people on Earth. Even the morons in Africa are detested by homosexuality and will beat and burn them alive to get the gay out of them. Here the libs promote it and allow them to groom impressionable easily suggestible children to make more.

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I agree to the dumb part especially. Seems dumb people just avoid all reality anymore and just make up delisuions about anything, call it truth, and expect normal, smart people to play along. Reality avoidance is a real mental health issue.

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Why say that? GENERAL Statistics say 1 in 6 women are sexually abused...


Stats also say that 13 % of women smoke, closer to the actual percentage of lesbians in the population than the percentage of sexual assault. Clearly, tobacco is the reason that women become lesbians.

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oh good lord

why do I even bother to try?

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Excellent. Admitting your stats don't work is a very good start.

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oh my fucking god. are you really debating MY stats??
Are you from Earth? If not, I might understand.
If so, you are so delusional, to only know about things you choose to make up.

Take TWO SECONDS in your life and look up real information. You will end up happier accept reality than the self delusional bullshit you apparently are making up and living in.

Additionally, you are immediately DISMISSING all sexual abuse victims (many whom I have personally worked with) so, go ahead and tell women they are just lying, are FAKE STATS and don't matter.

Good job.

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Voodoo science. There is nothing to look up. The stats of sexual assault and the stats of homosexuality are not related other than the coincidental aspect. If you really believe homosexuality is the direct result of sexual assault you are probably a flat-earther as well.

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You'll find a lot of gay people have sexual encounters at a young age. I say encounters because some people
enjoyed it while others view it as abuse.

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Hasn't everyone had sexual encounters at a young age?

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What are you calling encounter and what are you calling young?

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Exactly.

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The crux of this is whether early sexual experience has any effect whatsoever on a person's sexual orientation.

I admit that my experience and understanding of homosexuality is based on simple observation of family, friends, and coworkers, so I'm willing to look at any studies done that make a tie in - although I've never heard of such a thing until this thread.

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You must've been living under a very sheltered rock if you never heard that before. Too many statistics and studies, not enough sunshine.
Outside influences such as positivite and negative interactions with people have a big impact on our sexuality. Maybe some people are born with more of a prominent "gay gene" than others.

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I think she'll off herself at some point.

Yeap, their suicidal statistical rates are above 50%.

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And going up, despite all the support they get from the mainstream and approval they get from social media. Proving bullying and danger was a bullshit reason for it. Changing their gender will not fix their trauma, only add to it because it's a completely ridiculous fix. Not only are they cutting off parts of their body, but cutting off about 99% of society that would find them attractive with a penis covered in leg hair, or a giant open necrosis wound that smells like a rotting corpse. Even those people with giant ear lobe holes had to find that out the hard way. Way to make your ears smell like shit, morons.

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This kind of reminds me of 'Shutter Island' (2010).

A man locked up in an insane asylum, acts out his "delusions" with the help of health professionals, only to realize the truth and ends his life (e.g., suicide) in the end.

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Tranny Island Reboot/Reimaging/ReTransitioning when?

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There's no need for a reboot as the foundation, the metaphor has already been established with this film.

Many will say what the doctors did: WORKED!
The patient was able to find "his" truth, which furthers the idea that collaborating with another's "delusions" is the best course of action and that the outcome can be "fixed".

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'I hate to say this, but I think she'll off herself at some point.'

Honestly, I can see that happening. Seems to me a deeply unhappy/troubled person.

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That's very unlikely.

Studies have shown the vast majority of people who medically transition do not regret it.

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That might be out of date data. More recent studies have shown that there's been a dramatic upswing in detransitioning in the last few years.

I think the problem is that early adopters really believed themselves to be of the opposite sex in the wrong body, but perhaps many recent trans people were caught up in the hysteria.

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What was Ellen Page's reason for transitioning? Was it because she wanted more attention than she already had? Or was she one of those people who did it because they felt uncomfortable in their own bodies?

If it's the latter, then that's less likely to go away, unfortunately.

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Personally, I think there's a kind of hysteria going around - young people who aren't gay suddenly believe they are, gay people suddenly believing their actually the wrong gender, and even straight people who suddenly believe they've been misgendered.

I guess time alone will tell. 20 years from now we may be shaking our heads over why people mutilated their bodies.

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NOBODY "suddenly believes" ANYTHING....THAT IS FULL OUT BULLSHIT.

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No, not bullshit, or is it bullshit because the subject is transgenderism? People suddenly believe they're Jesus, or great performers, or that the Earth is flat, or...

Jim Jones had a lot of people believing he was the messiah. That didn't turn out so well.

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All true, it's definitely a social contagion.

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I like your definition better.

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You gotta think she made a big miscalculation thinking her life would be so much better as a guy even when there's no such thing. I mean she's 5'1" and guys are endlessly shit on who are that short.

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BY BULLIES.

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hahaha that's funny coming from the 6'5 guy who makes smug comments about men shorter than him whenever the opportunity presents itself.

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I HAVE NO QUALMS WITH SHORT DUDES...AND I PREFER SHORT CHICKS.

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The real question is, will she ever regret her choices and make that regret known to the public.

If she regrets it and now is staying silent while others do what she did, that ain't cool.

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and make that regret known to the public.


The raging, frothing-at-the-mouth radical activists and the agenda-pushing press would tear her to shreds if she did that.

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She only has to say it once and it would spread.

But I think it's a case of buyer's remorse - no one likes to admit when they've made an error, especially one at the possible catastrophic level.

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Why? Because this whole thing is about attention.

First it was ‘look at me, I’m a lesbian’

Then ‘look at me, I’m trans’

Then ‘look at me, I cut my tits off’

But already people have stopped caring, and her acting career is going nowhere. Plus, being trans is already becoming tired, it’s no longer the trendy new thing and medical institutions that pushed it are backing down.

De-transitioning? That’s interesting, that’s a news story, and an especially big story for a high profile transformer like Page.

So expect some big fake tits and no doubt many other surgeries until one day Page looks in the mirror and sees a grotesque mutant where there could have been an attractive woman with a family, and decides to eat a bullet."

Ok, I'll buy this 100%.. It is an attention getter and like it or not, as much as people like this may want to transition to the other sex, at the end of the day, she's still Ellen Page, not Elliot.. Case in point, I work for one of the most liberal universities in Missouri. We had a dispatcher who's name was "Hailey" but "Hailey" decided she wanted to be known as "Harley".. "Harley took testosterone too much and it ended up working against her and now, she's back to being Hailey

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she's still Ellen Page, not Elliot.


No. If a person wants to change their name, and do it legally, they are that new name. If you want to talk about biological sex, then biologically Elliot is a biological female.

People can disagree on what gender means, I'm not educated in that area to really understand all the nuances. I do understand that language changes, and that these days gender is separate from biological sex. What I don't really understand is why any of you care?

I don't care if Elliot is going through something physiological, or if it's a mental illness. I don't give a care what they do to their body. It makes no difference to me. I don't care if they share a bathroom with me.

I do care about the "Haileys" that I know. I saw one that I know tonight who I work with. "Terry" has been on the T for years now, and is very happy being "Terry" Much, much happier than they were before. The Harley that I know who is now Charlie, and has been Charlie for over 10 years is still doing great. I also know a Chad who went back to being Angela. I care about them all no matter what name they go by, and what they may or may not have in their pants has nothing to do with me.

I find it really disrespectful when people can't be bothered to at least use the name that one prefers. It doesn't mean anything to you, but it could mean the world to that person. I am not trans. I'm a cis woman who changed what I name I wanted to be called by when I was 15 years old, and I've had family members tell me that it's too difficult to think of me as another name. I've given them over 30 years to get used it, but they didn't realize that my given name has a really bad association with me and when I hear it, it causes pain. I refuse to acknowledge that name at all now, and will completely go deaf to it. But fuck it right! Let's just hurt people because it's an inconvenience for us to try to learn a new name right???

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Because it's a freakshow that's why and what was a rare thing known as Gender Dysphoria is now being treated like it's some sort of fad, the cool hip thing to have and to self mutilate yourself to become something you're not supposed to be?? If you were born a male and sport a dick & testicles, then so be it.. Same thing with a female and her anatomy

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How do you know what someone is or isn't supposed to be? What are your credentials to make that judgement? How does it affect your life?

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How do you know I'm not a dolphin?

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I would assume that you aren't a dolphin because you are typing. If you are using talk to text, I'd be really impressed and I'd why a dolphin would waste time on a site like this.

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How is that related?

The same way I may be a dolphin without fins, "Elliot" was a "man" without a penus.

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Elliot is a trans man.

I don't care what they have in their pants. Just like I don't care if you have fins or not. It makes absolutely no difference to my life. I'm just wondering why you all seem to care so much? You're most likely never going to meet him. I do wonder how you would treat a trans person in real life though? Would you slap them with your tail or try to push them under water with your beak? Or would you just get on with your life?

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Trans people deserve respect and they deserve to be treated well. They need to be protected, actually...

And they need to have psychological support.

Because having such a dysforia is not healthy and should be treated so they can go back to living a normal life.

Regarding why am I concerned - I'm not concerned with Ellen Page per se, I'm just concerned for the example they are providing to young and impressionable kids/teens.

Teenagers and even younger children start to actually believe this is normal, even "cool" to be this different. Then they are trapped and become medical patients for life, mutilating their bodies and preventing themselves from having a normal life and normal family.

Would you be ok with having a child that wants to be like Ellen Page? Would you pay for the expensive treatments?

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Not american so the treatments wouldn't be expensive.

I don't know what I would do as a parent in this situation because I was unable to be a parent. But I know what I'm like with my friend's kids who are going through this. Just accept them. Provide love, care, and support in the form of both medical and psychological help. It's very, very rare that one can have any sort of gender reassignment surgery in my country under the age of 18, so it would never be my choice anyways.

As for hormones. I would trust my doctor's advice. One of my acting gigs this fall consisted of a large number of "trans" youth, and two trans adults. Only the adults were taking testosterone, and one had had top surgery. I met the one who finally had top surgery 6 years ago, before any hormones or surgery. He is a much more happy and confident person.

Out of all the individuals who identified as "trans" other than one who was male to female, they were all female to male, and they were all over 16. Now, do I think that perhaps this is seen as maybe a bit of a "fad"? Perhaps I do. Which is why I'm not as concerned as others seem to be. If you look at statistics, the actual numbers of those who identify as trans who are taking hormones isn't as high as the media would let you believe. (at least not in my country). I would hope that medical professionals are explaining the risks of any hormone suppression therapies and then hormone replacement therapies.

One thing I learned in Psychology is that forms of teenage rebellion aren't all bad. If teenagers can get a decent grip on who they are when they are teens, the are much less likely to have a midlife crisis. So for all the youth who are dressing in whatever clothes they want, wearing make-up, or not, binding breasts, or whatever, until science can tell me differently, I think they are just figuring out who they are, and I think that unless the behaviour becomes harmful, I have no issues with it. I would rather my teen want to go by a different name, or pronoun, if that meant that they weren't wanting to self harm or commit suicide.

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Maybe you dictated your post?

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Because I'm smart and don't surf dumb influential sites like Tik Tok where they encourage this sort of freakshow bullshit

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I don't surf tik tok either.

But I guess I'm trying to understand. You have no real knowledge about the psychology or physiology that could be driving someone to declare themselves trans, but you are expert enough to say that it's wrong.

Why aren't you asking the question what would cause someone to want to change who their gender? I mean reading the comments, there seems to be an assumption of childhood sexual abuse. I'd argue that as there are a lot of children who are abused who do not want to transition.

How does this effect you though? Even if it is a mental illness (which that doesn't seem to be the consensus in the medical community) or a physical illness, what impact does it make on your life? If it is a fad amongst younger people, won't they grow out of it? So again, how does this affect you?

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It doesn't affect me, but why does everyone have to act like pansies about it nowadays and you're not allowed to comment on it, despite having it shoved down our throats on a daily basis?? Better develop a thicker skin or simply not bring up the subject

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but why does everyone have to act like pansies about it nowadays and you're not allowed to comment on it, despite having it shoved down our throats on a daily basis??


This is a contradiction. If it doesn't affect you, then it isn't being shoved down your throat. What does acting like pansies mean?

I don't understand a thing about what it means to be trans. I can't. I have always been comfortable with my sexual organs. So because I try to be empathetic, and at least understanding that someone is going through something that I can't understand that means I'm a pansy? Why can't you develop a thicker skin and not bring up the subject and just let trans people exist instead of (your words) being a pansy about it?

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How old are you because you strike me as a kid who doesn't know the meaning of being a pansy?? You shitting me??

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I know what a pansy is thanks.

Great deflection though.

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No. It’s cruel to play along with people’s delusions, especially when that involves them severing and mutilating healthy body parts, and self-sterilising.

Also, the Left are all about the control of thought through control of language. Notice how they try to normalise self-mutilation and sterilisation by making normal people describe themselves as ‘cis’, as you just did. You’re not a ‘cis woman’ you’re a ‘woman’.

As for your name, I’d need to know what is so horrifying about it, but my default position is that you should respect your parents and the name they gave you.

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my default position is that you should respect your parents and the name they gave you.


There are exceptions, of course, like if they named you Adolf or Jeffrey Dahmer.

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Hence why I said ‘I’d need to know what is so horrifying about it’ - precisely because there are exceptions.

My guess is that sslssg’s birth name isn’t Adolf or Jeffrey D, she’s a woman for starters. I’m guessing it’s something pretty innocuous and normal.

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I'm also a white woman. A middle aged woman. A tall woman. They are just adjectives to describe me. I don't think it should have anything to do with politics. I care about people. Is that what makes me a leftist?

I will ask for your credentials as well, or your expertise on this subject. Are you in the medical field? Are you a psychologist or a psychiatrist? A geneticist? A physiologist? Is it cruel to allow someone relief from something that most of us don't understand? Do you have a cure? A treatment plan?

my default position is that you should respect your parents and the name they gave you.

So you've never called someone by their nickname or known someone who goes by their middle name? Do you refer to Charlie Sheen by that name or do you call him Carlos Estévez? Or Jamie Foxx, Eric Bishop? Do you call married women by their maiden names if they chose to take their husband's last name? My point is it doesn't matter why someone changes their name. If it's their name, it is incredibly disrespectful to not call them by the name they want. Why should you respect what your parents name you? What if they called me Phelony, or Tu Morrow, or X Æ A-12?

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Leftists are narcissistic sociopaths who pretend to care about ‘opressed’ people so that they can attack those they hate, who are labelled ‘oppressors’. I hope you’re not a Leftist.

The Left have introduced the great evil of identity politics into Western culture, thanks to them your gender and colour are now of vast political importance.

The credentialism you exhibited is worrysome. Credentials are used by the Left to dupe unsuspecting people into self-mutilating and self-sterilsiing. One doesn’t need credentials to have compassion and common sense.

The ‘cure’ for those wanting to slice off their god-given healthy organs is psychological care in which they are encouraged to love themselves as they are, and an intervention to keep them away from the pernicious ideas of the Leftist cult.

Yes, you should respect your parents and use the name they gave you… because they created you and you must honour them. As mentioned, there are rare exceptions where someone hae been named ‘Adolf Hitler’ in which a name change is understandable.

Stage names are a different matter, and nicknames are given to you, not selected by you, so those don’t count. We’re talking about your Christian name.



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The ‘cure’ for those wanting to slice off their god-given healthy organs is psychological care in which they are encouraged to love themselves as they are, and an intervention to keep them away from the pernicious ideas of the Leftist cult.


And you know this how? You think that no right wing individuals go through this? Politics should have nothing to do with it. I'm not American so your whole right wing/left wing two party system is ridiculous to me. I've voted all over the place as I vote for candidates not a party. You would probably call me a liberal as I support LGBTQ+ peoples. I would call myself a centrist.

Yes, you should respect your parents and use the name they gave you… because they created you and you must honour them.
Well I think this is bullshit. I'm adopted so my parents did not create me, nor do I go by the name I was given at birth. I'm not Christian, so I don't consider my name anything to do with Jesus.

As for me wanting to know what your background is in the matter of your knowledge on to what is actually going on with a trans person is a question that we should all be asking really on any topic. I don't think it's concerning. I think that you have a right to say what you want, but I want to know what you actually know, not just think before I'm going to give any weight to your opinion. You can have opposing views to me, I have no issues with that, but if all you know is what the news tells you, I'm not really going to care about what you have to say. If you are a mental health professional, and can give me scientific reasonings behind why you are saying what you are saying, I'm going to give your opposing views a lot more weight.

The fact that you have lumped the entire left wing of the world into one group tells me that I'm not giving your opinions any more thought. There are people all over the spectrum. The world is not black and white and I refuse to see it that way.

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As for your name, I’d need to know what is so horrifying about it,


I don't usually get personal here, so I would ask you why you would need to know that? What difference does it make to you? If I met you, and introduced myself as the name I go by, are you going to ask to see my birth certificate?

What if I told you that I liked my birth name, but due to events in my life I just don't want to be known as that name anymore? Would you need to know what those events were or would you just accept that it causes me pain? That even with therapy it's difficult and sets me back would you still insist on calling me something that hurts me? If so, you wouldn't be in my life. I wouldn't care how close we were, or if you gave birth to me. Have some respect, empathy and decency.

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Have some respect, empathy and decency.


Tell yourself that, have some respect, empathy and decency toward the people who created you, raised you, and named you.

Without knowing the specifics the rest of your ‘poor me’ blather is meaningless. As I’ve said there are exceptions but something tells me you have a perfectly innocuous name and not something like Turd Eater.

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I never said that my name was bad. In fact I said I liked it.

Why I wanted to change my name is none of your business. I've changed it. It's my legal name. Even if I just wanted to change it because I felt like it, that's up to me. I don't owe the people who created me a damn thing. I don't owe my parents for my name. My parents, and I get along great and they were fine with my name change. They have no issues with it, so the fact that you do is really curious.

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"But already people have stopped caring"

sounds like you care a lot

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I care insofar as this deranged celebrity has mutilated herself permanently, and is encouraging others to do the same.

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This.

But ignore people like Ackbar, his comment is a standard NPC response because your "transphobic" comment hurt his feel-feels and since he has no actual argument or point that's all you will hear from his like.

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