https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49eMq2pRov4
Kathleen Kennedy strikes again! Daisy Ridley is complaining that she might be blacklisted from Hollywood?! She's getting plenty of voice actor work though...share
Or maybe nobody is hiring due to massive shutdowns? Well she always has SW to fall back on anyway.
shareWith the exception of Harrison Ford none of the original SW cast really went onto anything big either.
shareTrue.
Being in a blockbuster movie doesn't entitle you to future success.
Go watch the original SW, they were crappy actors... yet they still were given rolls in other movie after Star Wars simply because producers thought having them in the movies would draw in some SW fans... but the fact is they sucked as much in those movies as they did in SW. Go stream Corvette Summer, The Big Red One or Garbo Talks and you'll see why the other two from SW never amounted to anything when it came to acting.
shareI was a kid during the original SW films and I do agree. Hamill in particular wasn't great. I saw him in the Big Red One and Corvette Summer. Carrie seemed average at best. I only ever saw her in the Blues Brothers which was a small role.
shareThe odd thing with Hamill is that he does decent voice work for cartoons, but can't act for shit. I don't know maybe the fact that he overacts so much is what you need for voice work.
shareHe was typical of the standard of the time though. I think he would have been better off on TV. I haven't heard any of his cartoon work but it makes sense that you would need an over the top style.
shareI would not say he was typical of the standard actor of the time. Probably below average as he always came off as your typical high school play actor that always looked like he was trying to hard. A shame he never spent a little of his money from SW on acting lessons. He was never going to be great but he could have improved enough not to embarrass himself.
shareWhen you watch films of that period he really is typical. The average standard was quite low. Even the "top" stars of the time were pretty average for the most part. The 70's wasn't a great time for film with a few exceptions.
shareI guess I'm probably judging him against a fairly thin selection as in the 70's I wasn't going to a lot of movies. When I think about it I can't really think of many actors from the 70's as far as movies go, Richard Dreyfus, Roy Scheider, Clint Eastwood, Al Pacino, Donald Sutherland, Warren Beatty, Robert Redford, Jack Nicholson... I don't know but I can't really think of any actors from the 70's that were as bad as Hamill.
shareOf the original they were all pretty shitty at acting. Watch Star Wars and take a shot everytime one of them has a cringe worthy moment. You'll never see the death star explode.
shareKid, the game was rigged against you the moment you signed on to play Rey. Sorry, but it's a fact of life with "Star Wars" actors, and sci-fi actors in general. The greater Hollywood community doesn't like them, and often doesn't respect the franchises the way we fans do. It's similar to the "Superman Curse," where the role follows you for the rest of your life, and the only way to break out of it is to never give up trying to get acting gigs outside of the sci-fi genre, but few actors are willing to do that. Many are stuck with that persona or acting within that genre, because honestly, (beyond voice-acting) is the only one they'll be able to find work in after a while. It's happened to the cast in the Original Trilogy, it's happened to many Star Trek actors, hell, it's even happened to actors from lesser-known franchises, such as "Mass Effect," or "Stargate!"
So there's three things you can do, Daisy. You can sit around, collecting royalty checks, bitching and moaning about how "unfair" your life is, despite being very rich, and do it on talk shows; you can try to rebuild your career like Harrison Ford and Natalie Portman did from the bottom up in other movie genres; or you can go off and do something else with your life. Your choice.
Absolutely. There's a reason the scifi genre actor's pool is so small. It's a lot of fun for the fans cuz they get to keep seeing all their favorite actors doing fun new roles. But you're typecast. Your larger career ambitions are toast. That's why you see so many of them actors turn to theater to get their fulfillment in the craft. Is what I think.
shareIt was also a controversial and divisive role, essentially a female Luke in what was a Woke version of Star Wars. Except, Woke people don't really do movies as we have seen by all the Woke flops while actual fans of the genre get pissed off.
So there was a price to pay for that leap frog into fame. Then again without Rey, I doubt she would of gotten far in the first place. So enjoy what you had.
They could have made a great story with a female as the lead, but the problem is, they had no plan for the trilogy, JJ wanted to do his own thing, he and Ruin Johnson were very lazy with their writing, and had to do everything Kathleen "The Bitch" Kennedy demanded, as well as re-write Star Wars canon, and dump over everything Lucas had ever written and made; and then refused to own up to their willful mistakes when the inevitable of angry fans came storming their ivory tower.
It's like killing someone you hated, but everyone else liked, in cold blood in the town square, and then blaming the fallout on the horrified, angry, upset family of the victim when they come to you, demanding justice.
I have a feeling we're never gonna see the actors who were part of that cast act in anything ever again; or at least, nothing memorable.
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm5397459/
Look at her IMDb page I see a lot of voice over work which pretty much says it all.
That is the modern (Socialist) way though, tell people what they like and what they want rather than listen to what they really want. Then attack people when they don't like what you did.
Funny how Hollywood used to be a business that would attempt to give the customers what they wanted, and would experiment, to see what worked with the audience, and what didn't, and capitalize on that. Now they only make what they want, and get mad when the customers don't agree with their idea of what's great and what's not great. They don't even give viewers a chance to think for themselves, or to try to puzzle out the symbolism in the stories; it's just all laid out like a sticker book, or a pre-drawn roadmap with all the twists and turns clearly marked for the customers to take, rather than letting the customers figure out how to solve the puzzle themselves.
It's actually not much different from a spoiled, narcissistic kid who thinks they world revolves around them, joining the school talent show, doing a shitty job, but then yelling and screaming profanities at the audience for walking out on them, and later launching a smear campaign against everyone who bought tickets to the talent show. Not to mention they ruin the awards part of the show with a very public temper tantrum, and then refuse to understand why a.) someone else got the award, despite how "awesome" they were, and b.) why they were shouted angrily at by the audience and dragged off stage by security.
I still think Hollywood is being funded by China to make anti west type films to disrupt society.
I also think that due to trying to appeal to non European markets that they have dumbed their films down, a lot! Lots of action and pictures, lots of Non white people, even if non white people want to see white people!
Yeah it's like Ghostbusters 2016 they started slamming the audience before the film was released before anyone even said anything. It's like a self fulfilling prophecy. Of course people will respond unkindly if you attack them!
The real irony is that so many of these Woke films flop which leads me to be live that Woke isn't as popular as it likes to think it is and Woke people don't watch the films that they want made!
I figured it out just this past year what's going on. Since these assholes in Hollywood can't get regular Americans to watch their crap, they decided to branch out to China, because China has a billion very bored, oppressed people, who will watch anything for the sake of entertainment, even if it's woke or a complete dog turd of a film. But in order to get China to buy their movies and distribute them, Hollywood had to make changes to suit the Chinese, rather than Americans.
In fact, I saw a rather disturbing earnings chart, where, after 2003, Hollywood's domestic earnings, annually, started leveling out, meaning they weren't getting more each year, which indicates their movies and tv shows weren't earning as much money as they'd hoped. However, superimposed on the same graph, were foreign sales, which went through the roof! It appears that people in other countries will watch anything American, even if it's shitty (remind you of the Chinese?) So it seems quite often, rather than working on the quality of their films, Hollywood decided to focus on the foreign markets to make ends meet on all their spending, to make up for Americans not wanting to see their crap.
It's backfiring though as China becomes more closed off and tensions escalate between China and just about everyone else. Always a bad move to sellout your own.
I have been told that another part of the reason is Hollywood wanted to sell some studios to China and hoped Hilary would help with that. When Trump won their hopes were dashed which explains their hatred for him.
I think they will keep losing money for a while. They need a new guard to come in and change things up.
Funny enough, the Star Wars franchise has never done well in China or in Asia in general. It's more of a Western thing.
shareAnd yet they still watched the films in east Asia. I know because when I was in high school, I knew a girl who had been visiting Japan around the Millennium, and she got the chance to watch "The Phantom Menace" in the theater. I can't remember if it had subtitles, or if it had been dubbed, but she said the experience was very weird.
shareYou could be onto something. I think it is possible to do a decent woke film - we've seen these in the past. Cameron had a few very strong female leads in a few films decades ago and it didn't make those films any worse - but he didn't go full woke - his male leads weren't absolute morons as they are in full woke films and he didn't go racial woke. I suspect if he went full woke... those films with strong female leads would greatly suffer.
As things stand, to go full woke, you need strong female leads - non-white characters trump all. Then you also need a few gay/trans in the support cast. Evil characters have to be white dudes. Dudes in general (white and non-white) have be to be feeble/weak/dumb.
I love old films like pre 1960's and they had some very strong female leads, far stronger than the Woke females in today's films.
Exactly. You shouldn't have to deride a group to try and make another group look good. I think that is why Woke films tend to fail. They aren't realistic.Also if the "Bad guys" are so incompetent than doesn't that make the hero look the same if it is that easy to defeat them?
Also, if you look at say the recent Charlie's Angels reboot, the actresses aren't plausible as action hero types. They want the female hero but they still want that hero to be a petite fragile looking thing. They aren't actually "Woke" themselves!
You know, I am not going to read any more links posted by you.
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