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Hollywood continues its march to replace white people


Asgard and the Asgardians were designed after the Nordic peoples. The whitest people on the planet. Why do they keep taking originally white characters and making them black?

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I agree lol. But the diversity worked with the main characters.

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Why do American Hollywood movies have to be at least 50% black now? Blacks are less then 10% of the population. It's the other races that are under represented.

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I am ok with diversity as long as it made sense. I'm ok with the main female character being a woman of color. My problem is the forced black people in the background in every shot.

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But today diversity means black? The USA is approx 47% white, 27% hispanic, then the others. So where are the Asians? Latinos? Because the USA hates Asians and see hispanics as maids. Fix it for every one or keep politics out of movies. Movies are dead almost now anyway. All the money is in video games.

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yes, I honestly don't care because film as art and quality entertainment is beyond over, so destroy it all they want, thank god for bluray and old films.

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Is everything on b-ray now?

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not everything but a lot of old films are and it's amazing.

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Was she black or hispanic? I was under the impression she was hispanic.

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I think she's black but who knows at this point.

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You have no idea what you're talking about. Check your "facts".

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Please, show me a mainstream film where 50% of the cast is black. And don't pick a film catering to a black audience.

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Asgard is a fictional world that, in the MCU, happened to interact the most with Nordic peoples

Asgardians are not, themselves, Nordic. They're alien.

Within the MCU, and even within the Marvel comics, Asgardians were never "designed" after Nordic peoples. At best, they were the basis for the Norse pantheon.

The "Warriors Three" were not Nordic, and they date back to 1965.

Blame Stan Lee (or whoever invented non-Nordic Asgardians, 'cause it sure wasn't Hollywood)

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>Asgard is a fictional world that, in the MCU, happened to interact the most with Nordic peoples

BUT IN REAL LIFE.... Asgard and the Asgardians were developed after the Norse Gods and the Nordic peoples, not the other way around.

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BUT IN REAL LIFE....

But see that's the thing... THE MCU IS NOT REAL LIFE. It is fiction!

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No one is debating it's not fiction. The point of this thread was to show hollywood's continued bastardization of the marvel universe so it can pat itself on the back for being more diverse. They are replacing white people and seeing it as a good thing.

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"The point of this thread was to show hollywood's continued bastardization of the marvel universe . . ."

Your pathetic racism and insecurity have been duly noted.

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^^^^ triggered snowflake is triggered

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"^^^^ triggered snowflake is triggered."

Actually, pumpkin, the real snowflakes are you pathetic racists. Part of me has to chuckle every time you idiots throw your predictable little tantrums when a non-white actor is given some prominent role in a movie.

The time when whites are a minority is coming soon, there’s nothing you little morons can do about it, and it just drives you crazy. I love it!

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"The time when whites are a minority is coming soon, there’s nothing you little morons can do about it, and it just drives you crazy. I love it!"

Triggered racist cuck is racist :)



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^^^^ umm, ditto?

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You sure about that?

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Typical. Once a liberal can't make any cogent points anymore just pull out the race card. "Oh you think that a mythology that was forged out of the Germanic tribes of Scandinavia shouldn't include a race of people that never existed in the lands when said mythos was created? Well HOT DAMN son! Looks like we got a #literallyhitler on our hands! Round'em up and get them posted on social media so we can ruin their lives like the upstanding liberals we are!"

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The cogent argument has been used and deliberately ignored; that Marvel built a version of Asgard into their movie universe that can have inhabitants of any color. These "gods" aren't the old Nordic peoples or products of their imaginations, they're aliens that only coincidentally resemble humans. They could as easily have purple or green skin as brown, but since purple and green makeup costs more money they've contented themselves with human actors with the normal range of skin colors.

They've done this because they can make more money by appealing to people of all colors than appealing to racists, because face it - there aren't enough racists to make movies with all-white casts as profitable as movies with diverse casts. If you don't like it, feel free to stay home from Marvel films and enjoy your collection of John Wayne movies. You and your money won't be missed.

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That's not a cogent argument, it's an excuse. Their movie universe is based on their comic universe. Their comic universe didn't have black Norse gods. You're grasping for straws.

I also love you just assume that anyone who has a problem with a hiccup in continuity is just automatically a racist. Were the Asians that expressed their outrage over Scarlett Johannson playing Motoko in Ghost in the Shell racist as well?

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Source material gets changed for the screen every damn time a book, comic, game, or news article is made into a movie. If you can't deal with that, you're free to boycott the movie industry and stay home with your collection of "Thor" comic books.

Because the truth is that Marvel has decided to put things in their movies that you don't like and don't approve of, because they don't care about your opinion. Don't feel like a pathetic little troll who's on the wrong side of both history and free market forces or anything.

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How come it didn't change for Black Panther?

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Because whitewashing "BP" wouldn't make it more profitable, you silly little troll.

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So then why did they whitewash Ghost in the Shell?

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Haven't you got anything better to do that troll all day and all night?

Go help your mother with the dishes or something.

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This is when you know you lost the argument. Every consecutive answer you give me, I shoot down with a contradiction somewhere else proving my point. And you realize I'm right. And can't defend anything you're saying. So you take the coward's way out and simply reject me as a troll. What a vapid, predictable, disappointing response. At least have the integrity to admit you're wrong and can't defend your arguments.

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I only engage in protracted arguments with people I take seriously, which does not include you. No, it may be fun to insult idiot trolls like you and run mental rings around you, but it gets old fast.

Bugger off and get your algebra homework done.

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If that's the case then why have you spent this long engaging in arguments with me? If the irony was any sweeter, I'd have to start taking insulin.

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Because the Majors default avatar body is a western woman.

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Norse people -----> White and blond/red haired
Norse Mythology ---------> White and blonde/red haired gods

Fiction -----> pretending they are black to please the SJW and BLM cucks.


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MCU is not Norse people or Norse mythology.

Keeping everyone white would do nothing more than to please white-power snowflakes like yourself who can't handle the sight of a black man and run away with your crotch hidden.

Get over yourself, racist PoS.

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forgetting for a second your obviously triggered SJW snowflake vagina full of sand, you better resume your logic there:

- MCU characters come from the Marvel comics.
- Marvel Comics' characters [in this case, those connected to Norse Mythology] are white, red haired or blonde, and mostly blue eyed as depicted in the Comics.
- Valkyrie is a blonde, white female; as depicted in the Comics

So, by your logic, the act of putting a black female instead of a blonde female is not only racist towards white females but also culture appropriation [given that there were never black people in the Norse Mythology of which the Marvel Comics took inspiration nor are there any black Norse Marvel character].


That put to rest, then:

Tell us all about your mental breakdown on IMDB :D

Where is the Hover Bike you said you built?
Where is the infinite storage floppy disk you said you cracked?
Where is that 1 million dollars you said you won?

And following suit:

Is Prometheus still the best movie, like, evah?
Do you still claim that Cuddles was just underneath Shaws' skin?
Did the laser scalpel that cut her open carried "anti-bodies" with them as you stated, and that's how she didn't die?

And while you are at it:

- Do you still pass your entire life on online Forums getting rightfully spanked for the pathetic cry baby you are, still with regular intervals to change diapers while granny feeds you?

I so much want to know :)

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so, basically you are angry, because he does not return your affection.

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:'(

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You support the categorical replacement of white people. You sound like the PoS racist here, asshole.

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The characters in the Marvel comic universe were originally white too. So your point makes no sense. Keeping them white would have done nothing other than to please the fans that kept these characters so important for so long. This way rather, making them black does nothing than to piss off those fans for the sake of pleasing the rabid BLM fanbase that never cared for these characters anyway. It's patronizing to both whites and blacks.

You'll notice they still kept true to the characters in Black Panther. I wonder why.

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"his way rather, making them black does nothing than to piss off those fans for the sake of pleasing the rabid BLM fanbase that never cared for these characters anyway. "

The only people who are upset by such changes are racist idiots who don't matter.

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So you're saying all the Asians that were outraged over Scarlett Johanssen playing Motoko in GinS, were just racist idiots who don't matter?

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"So you're saying all the Asians that were outraged over Scarlett Johanssen playing Motoko in GinS, were just racist idiots who don't matter?"

White people already dominate American films and non-whites are looking for a way in, so casting Johanssen in a role that was originally Asian was a slap in the face.

I don't expect an idiot like you to understand or even want to understand these issues.

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That's because 65% of the American population is white. How else do you expect an industry to run by only casting minorities?

Also, Asian people dominate Asian films too. How many whites do you see in Bollywood or kung fu movies? How come there aren't people crying out for more diversity in those markets?

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America is supposed to value diversity. It's a melting pot, not a white man's land like so many believe.

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So then, as the melting pot that it is, why isn't there any diversity in Marvel's adaptation of Black Panther?

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"So then, as the melting pot that it is, why isn't there any diversity in Marvel's adaptation of Black Panther?"

It's taking place in Africa with a cast of mostly Africans and African-Americans, IS diversity in the context of the typical modern comic book movie cast.

You just aren't very bright, are you?

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And Thor took place in Asgard. In the context of not only ancient Norse mythology, but the comic book characters that were based on that mythology, Heimdallr and Valkyrie are white. So explain why they're black in the movie?

Calling me stupid isn't making you get through these questions any easier. You see the hypocrisy just as well as everyone else does.

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In the movie, Norse mythology is based on Asgard, not the other way around. So the filmmakers have all the freedom they want to make Asgardians any ethnicity they want. And I just love it that this drives racists knuckle-draggers like you crazy.

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But in the comic book they were white. So why are they black in the movie?

And if filmmakers have that kind of freedom to retcon Asgard, then why couldn't they do the same for Wakanda? Asgard actually existed as a concept before Marvel came along and claimed it as their own. Wakanda didn't.

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"But in the comic book they were white. So why are they black in the movie?"

Because the filmmakers aren't racist idiots like you and other whiners, and they wanted the right talent.

"And if filmmakers have that kind of freedom, then why couldn't they do the same for Black Panther?"

It takes place in Africa and features an African character, drooling moron. Mommy dropped you on your head a few times when you were an infant, didn't she?

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"Because the filmmakers aren't racist idiots like you and other whiners, and they wanted the right talent."

They why is the entire cast of Black Panther black? Are you suggesting there's more talented black actors to fill the role of Norse gods than there is white actors? A country that has a population of 65% white people, and 14% black people, has more talent to choose from in the minority?

"It takes place in Africa and features an African character, drooling moron. Mommy dropped you on your head a few times when you were an infant, didn't she?"

It takes place in Wakanda. A fictional country in Africa. Filmmakers had ample freedom to make the country just as diverse for their movie as they did Asgard. Why didn't they?

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"They why is the entire cast of Black Panther black?"

Because, idiot, it takes place in an African country governed by native Africans. That's the entire point.

"It takes place in Wakanda. A fictional country in Africa. Filmmakers had ample freedom to make the country just as diverse for their movie as they did Asgard. "

Because, idiot, the entire point was that Wakanda is run by native Africans without European colonists. That's central to Black Panther as a character and his history. The ethnicity of the characters in Asgard was always irrelevant and never important--except to racists like yourself.

Get used to it, puppy: as whites become a minority, you're going to have less and less representation on film and TV.

Feel free to have the last word. Moronic scum like you aren't worth any more of my time.

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"Because, idiot, it takes place in an African country governed by native Africans. That's the entire point."

A fictional African country. Why couldn't they bend continuity for the sake of diversity for a fictional African country, the way they could bend continuity for a fictional Norse world like Asgard? There's more diversity in Zimbabwe than there is Wakanda.

"Because, idiot, the entire point was that Wakanda is run by native Africans without European colonists. That's central to Black Panther as a character and his history. The ethnicity of the characters in Asgard was always irrelevant and never important--except to racists like yourself. "

You're contradicting yourself. You can't say that the filmmakers have to play according to the canon in Black Panther, and then say they don't have to in Thor.

"Get used to it, puppy: as whites become a minority, you're going to have less and less representation on film and TV."

And we arrive at last to what your true colors look like.

>"Blacks in Thor because diversity and unequal representation in historical context"

>"Get used to being unequally represented as you slowly become a minority"

Couldn't have asked for a better response from you. Thanks. Let this be displayed for the world to see.

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Where's the Hover Bike you said you made?
Where's the Infinite Storage Floppy you said you "cracked"?
Where's the 1 million dollars you said you won?

I still want to know :)





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"Keeping everyone white would do nothing more than to please white-power snowflakes like yourself who can't handle the sight of a black man and run away with your crotch hidden."

Instead it pleases the Black power snowflakes.

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You understand that the comics and MCU are separate universes, right?

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They are alien?? from where?

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Alien from..... Asgard.... which is from Norse Mythology.... who were all white people. These SJW morons don't know what the fuck they are talking about. They just say nonsense. And if you disagree with them they cry "racist" as if their logic isn't absolute bullshit.

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I know, plus he's a god so how is he alien.

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The Norse may have been white and represented their gods that way, but it doesn't mean mythology is correct. I mean, even Jesus is popularly portrayed as white, even though he would not be, and that portrayal is both modern AND known to be inaccurate!

Keep fighting for white actors since you're afraid of non whites.

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Where's the Hover Bike?
Where's the infinite storage floppy?
Where's the 1 million dollars you said you won?
Is Prometheus still the best movie ever?
Do lasers still carry anti-bodies?

I still want to know :(

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Did fragmama really make those claims. I got to look them up.

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Yep. Some of the users from IMDB even saved them to re-post them, because he was constantly reporting people who didn't agree with his idiotic fan fiction.

Frogarama used to spend 24 hours a day on IMDB, trolling on multiple boards and getting his ass rightfully kicked for being the most obnoxious sack of shit possible [his site history was well known and also posted many times].

Then one day he had a mental breakdown and posted he "cracked" the secret for "Hovering Bikes" and an "infinite storage floppy disk", while also bragging he got 1 million dollars for some nonsensical reason.


In sum: he is an overweight man-child living in granny's basement.

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By not being from Earth.

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No. It's based on Nordic mythology, lol.

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🤨

*Stays clear from this paranoid, anti-reality, “being PC sucks unless you call me out”, whining snowflake*

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I know these discussions can be difficult kiddo. The adults will have it.

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so you are out? very good.

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gr8 b8 m8
I r8 8/8
why so ir8?

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RUSMTSIM?

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and there it is, another one popped a vain in the brain. :D

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too complicated for you?

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too boring for me, sugar. :)

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yeah, sure. ;)

for some people "gr8 b8 m8" already uses up maximum brain capacity as it seems.

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you sound mad. I bet you didn't even understand it. Self-loathing much?

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still don't get it? kinda embarrassing.

RUSMTSIM?

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still think I care for your butt-hurt ramblings? Embarassing.

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you know what? i'll give ya a couple of weeks. maybe you are able to figure it out. maybe ask an adult to help you. isn't that "gr8"?

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I love when you're mad. Makes me moist :)

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Your fucking retarded. the only refernce I can find on RUSTSIM is a instrumental song by some metal band. Don't pretend it means anything Or at least know that half the responsability at communication lies on the writer or speaker.

For example heres one for you
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type in your name to decrypt it. I'll give you a few years before I give you another hint at the password.

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hahahahaha.

how about thinking, instead of googling?

the poster before me started with gr8 b8 m8, so RUSTSIM should have been a cakewalk. yes, i obviously stole that from disharmonic orchestra. enough people were able to figure it out on their own. so did i, btw.

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??? Which is it RUSTSIM or RUSMTSIM? Are you even sure what you typed earlier? Can you edit your post with the correction if so?

Did you also just say you were able to figure out your own words? And what other people figured it out. Are they private messaging you cause I don't see there comments here.

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Don't bother, the bridge he is selling is not worth it.

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Yea I've already lost interest. Moving on.

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hahahah. man, i am glad i did not post a sudoku. would have made your heads explode.

RUSMTSIM?

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still don't get it. Ok fine heres the session key.
9:081D4209E7E2A502781ECD21348FB7F9F46C75F0BE0EA82033107775DE4AC450

theres no guessing now. You have everything you need to decode the message. Theres no excuse if you can't decode it now.

And post sodoku all you want I've already written programs to solve the. What I can't write a program for is solving your retarded all CAPS gibberish.

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you still get bonus points if you figure out what the the value that hashed to the key was.

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still not able to figure it out, eh? wow 3 posts in a row. quite the obsessive type.

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not trying to get the last word are you?

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damn, you still haven't solved it AND you are still not over it?

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last words?

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not solved?

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Wait till the DCEU starts showing a Black Batman and an Asian Superman now that the SJW writer for Marvel has gone to DC.

And WonderWoman will turn into a crossdresser

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agree, Valkyrie and heimdall were def white both in the comics and of course in "real life" mythology

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guess this is black washing....but assholes only have a problem with whitewashing.......fuck the media

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This is because white people have never been under-represented in films. It's really that simple. Imagine if less than 100 years ago white characters in film were not only written as offensive stereotypes but also portrayed by black people wearing white make up. Now imagine that discrimination against whites limited the available roles they could play for much of the next 70 years. If that were the case wouldn't you celebrate more roles becoming available for white people? Why begrudge non-white actors for the progress that they've made? Contrary to the irrational fears of some, opportunities for white people are not going away...a piece of the pie is still there for the best amongst us to take.
The funny thing is people who experience diversity realize how beneficial it is and honestly quite interesting learning about life experiences from different points of view. As a white male I feel truly fortunate to work for a very diverse company and what I've learned most is that underneath it all, we're much more similar than we are different.

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maybe if there were actually better black actors, that wouldn't be the case. Just saying.

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Just to be clear, are you saying it was a lack of talented black actors that necessitated white people in blackface portraying offensive stereotypes?

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No, of course not. There was indeed a period in time in America when blacks weren't allowed anywhere near a film stage.

However this is now, not then.

You get to see black people winning awards just because they are black, not because of their acting prowess.
You get to see movies made by black people getting awards, not because they are indeed good movies, but because they were made by black people.
Happens the same thing in the music scene.

The race card is being played to exhaustion by both the black who still victimize themselves and all the SJW cucks who feel they have to apologize for something they didn't even did, in a time they weren't even born, for some strange reason.

Soon enough you'll be saying that they should get free school because they are black, be absent from any social duties because they are black, be above the law because they are black, get money without work because they are black, etc.

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Actually I won't be saying that, so I'd appreciate you not putting words in my mouth. I was unclear what you meant in your post so I gave you the courtesy of asking you to clarify.

You and I clearly have very different world views and I don't think this conversation is going to change either of our opinions so I'll be bowing out after this post. I'll just say that as a straight white male, it doesn't matter what progress is made for anyone else, I still belong to the most advantageous group in the U.S. for having done nothing to earn it other than being born looking a certain way. I can admit that to myself and I don't feel threatened for others who strive to have exactly what I have.

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Thank you for the courtesy.

But I guess you are correct, given that there is no such thing as "white privilege". Specially in a world where Asians are the majority.

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Valkyrie in the thor ragnarok is almost white. Stop complaining.

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To my knowledge, as a Norse person, there's not a single person in our mythos that's called Valkyrie. The Valkyrie are the ones that carry dead warriors to Asgård.

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Norse .. you mean Norwegian?

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Yep so true, whats with that?

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Deep breath. . .

Wakanda is a hidden society in Africa, which has been insulated from the world for thousands of years. (This is true both in the comics and the cinematic version of the story)
Asgard is a place that inspired the Norse myths, and is populated by a range of races; NONE of which are human.
(This is true both in the comics and the cinematic version of the story)
Given this, the only thing I have a problem with is making Heimdall black. Much as I like Idris Elba; would have MUCH preferred to see a comic-accurate representation.

NOW: making random people in Wakanda white would be silly, but for amplified reasons. As explained above.

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Neither are real, so theres no excuse not to have whites or asians in there. Diversity is a two way street :)

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Diversity is a one way street. . .I think you're confused. Either there's diversity, or there's not. More to the point, the movies can be criticized for anything you like, but knocking them for not putting white people in a hidden African civilization is absurd.
To repeat: changing the race of established characters is annoying to me as well; but the two issues are apples and oranges. Shrug. The fact that it's all fiction has no bearing on the issue(s), in any case.

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It’s a high fantasy hidden African civilization, you can do anything with fantasy, such as change races to appease people, I don't really care but I find it hypocritical. :)

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Oh, for. . .
Once more, for the cheap seats: Of COURSE you can "do anything." That doesn't mean you Should. You can change the Black Panther to the purple leprechaun, and give him a mauve sidekick with super-unicorn powers. You can be as ridiculous as you want. . ."it's fantasy." Use your head: this is an adaptation of an existing story. It makes *no sense* to inject white people into a hidden African Civilization, just as it's pointless to change Heimdall from a white guy to a Black guy. If you think that's "hypocritical," I repeat: you're confused.

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"Once more, for the cheap seats: Of COURSE you can "do anything." That doesn't mean you Should."

such as, changing big tall white blonds into blacks because... muh feeligs.

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Yes. Such as changing Tall white blondes into blacks. Or old asian men into white women. Or [insert absurd casting choice]. Not sure if you're willfully missing the point, or starting a new conversation. . .in any case, I've expressed myself pretty clearly. You can go back & re-read; not interested in repeating basic concepts.

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You had a point?

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Yes, I agree it's pointless to change Heimdall from a white guy to a black guy (and Valkyrie too). Heimdall also being a waste of Idris Elba's talents, I'd of rather of seen him as Blade (If they reboot that, original Blade was black...and British!)

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I would see Elba as blade. As much as I enjoyed Snipes as Blade, Elba would do a better job.

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"Diversity is a one way street"

LMFAO. It's only racism when it's blacks huh?

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Try to think a bit more clearly. Go back and read my OP, and indicate where I said *anything* about racism.

Done? Good.

Further exercise for the student: Rethink the statement "Diversity is a one way street," and consider that it's actually asserting that racism cuts *both* ways, if you wanted to actually extrapolate opinions, and understand what I feel about such things (you don't).

OK. Good talk.

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If you have a point... make it clear.

Your thoughts were written in a way you demonstrate that it is ok to change a white man into a black man, but not the other way round.

Try again.

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Um. . .no, they weren't. Don't put your lack of reading comprehension on me. I was very clear; whatever you brought to the table is your own baggage.

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um...yes, they were. It's not my problem you can't properly build a coherent thought.

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Blah blah blah zzzzzzzzzzzzshkkkt. . .huh? Were you babbling again?

Go back and reread. Unless you can point out this imaginary "incoherency," or even any type of ambiguity, you're embarrassing yourself.

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You're not that bright are you?

"making random people in Wakanda white would be silly, but for amplified reasons."
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"Diversity is a one way street. . .I think you're confused. Either there's diversity, or there's not. More to the point, the movies can be criticized for anything you like, but knocking them for not putting white people in a hidden African civilization is absurd. "

Your premise is:

changing White Nordics into Blacks is ok. Changing African Blacks into Whites "is absurd"


Who's "babbling" and "embarrassing one self" again?

Try harder.

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[Who's "babbling" and "embarrassing one self" again? ]

You are.
YOU are saying "changing white nordics into blacks is OK." I *never* said that. What I DID say (repeatedly) was I was annoyed when they changed Heimdall, AND Johnny Storm, AND the Ancient One. Since you're a ridiculous muppet with limited brainpower, you missed/didn't understand/forgot that part.
Further, the point about Wakanda is well taken. . .but I don't expect you to be able to absorb that.

You really are leaving no doubt as to your stupidity.

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"I *never* said that. "

Read above, if you can read your own imbecility.

"Further, the point about Wakanda is well taken. . .but I don't expect you to be able to absorb that."

It's well taken? What does that mean? You took it up your ass or something? You didn't even need to bite your pillow for that one?

Again, if Black Panther was played by a white guy, you'd be whining because he is "white". In your ameba brain "it's a one way street".

Your words, dude. Man up. Own it.

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I can't imagine anything that bothers me less than black actors playing fictional characters in a mythical universe. Why you're seemingly threatened by this is beyond me.

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I bet you'd be bothered if - as an example - JFK, Jefferson, Einstein, DaVinci... were played by black people. :)

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I said fictional characters set in a mythical universe. What you mentioned are historical figures set in the world we live in. No comparison.

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I would beg to differ. It's respect for what is set that matters.

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The central characters... Chris Hemsworth, Tom Hiddleston, Cate Blanchett, and Anthony Hopkins were all as white as can be... most of the rest were supporting characters that had subservient roles. Considering this was set in a fantasy universe, what difference does it make if some characters are diverse? Did you complain that they were speaking in modern English instead of an Old Norse dialect? Did you care that the entire film violated all laws of science and physics?

I do respect the casting in historical dramas, but considering the man who created the universe is in the damn movie, I don't know why you are complaining. If you are sincere in your concern, and not trolling... I respectfully disagree. If you are trolling then go post on Yahoo or the Daily Mail, where you can find a lot of like minded people who share your worldview.

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Yeah, when I picture a Valkyrie the first thing that comes into my head is a black girl swigging beer!

It's okay to be white and have Marvel's Norse heroes depicted on screen similar to their comic book counterparts without getting frightfully upset that Marvel’s Norse heroes were not diverse enough, just as it is okay to be black and have Marvel’s Wakanda heroes depicted on screen similar to their comic book counterparts without getting frightfully upset that Marvel’s Wakanda heroes were not diverse enough…oh wait Wakanda is faithful to the source material but not the Thor stories? Hmmm

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If you are old and bought almost every one of Stan Lee's comics back in the day, faithfully waiting for the adaptation, I can sympathize with your irritation. If you are young and only watched the movies or read the comics on bootleg sites then I can't. Fair point about the double standard Wakanda heroes if true... but ironically that will most likely hurt their box office. As I said, you're talking about a franchise with talking plants and raccoons, yet you're complaining about a black Valkyrie. If I see you complaining about any of these inconsistencies in later posts, I'll believe you don't have a personal agenda.

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Yes, it’s just the double standards that are irksome, and tbh they just waste talent by doing so, the brilliant Idris Elba could have easily headlined as Blade in a new trilogy but instead he’s in a supporting role playing a character that’s not exactly a household name.

And there’s nothing wrong with wanting Valkyrie to look as she did for decades, Tilda Swinton, another thespian whose talent far outweighs this franchise was another wasted Marvel role for politically correct reasons.

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If you are coming from that perspective, then I can respect it.

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"oh wait Wakanda is faithful to the source material but not the Thor stories? Hmmm"
What you (and many others) continue to ignore/fail to grasp, is that it's apples and oranges. And to repeat: I am ALWAYS annoyed when unnecessary, often absurd changes are made. Whether it's Johnny Storm or The Ancient One or Heimdall or Mary Jane or The Vulture or WHOEVER. But you're simply confused if you think adding white/yellow/latin people to Wakanda is in ANY way the same problem. If you don't get the difference, don't know what to tell you.

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dude, you have SJW syndrome.

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And you have whiny white-winger syndrome (yes that's white-winger, not right-winger).

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bwah bwah bwah :'(

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Dude, you have stupidity oozing out of your pores. Back away from the keyboard, slowly. You're gonna hurt yourself.

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You are easily defeated, aren't you sweetheart? :)

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They're not replacing white people per se. Just ones that aren't the most commie snowflakes (white...hmmm)

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