Did Gadot pull it off?


Okay, she doesn't really have the right build and some don't like her accent and nobody's going to pay to hear her recite Shakespeare... but did she work in the role?

Personally, I think she carried it off. Maybe not great with dialogue, but she did project the personality of someone who's completely open and confident, because she's never met an obstacle she couldn't overcome, never experienced rejection, and who's never been embarrassed or shamed or afraid. Most actors can't bring that off, they can't help holding something back or being afraid to go that far, because face it real people just aren't like that, particularly women.

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She smashed it. She is lovely as well.

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agree

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I WISH she pulled it off in this movie. Sadly, no. She was clothed the entire time.

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Haha I see what you did there...

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LOL. Agreed! I was hoping to see how wonderful she is when off duty.

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She is an israeli zionist so I was never going to see this anyway but judging by clips, NO.

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How very unbiased of you...

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So you are an apartheid supporter?? Good for you!

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Let's just say that I judge actors after their acting skills and nothing else.

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that's great, apartheid supporter.

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I also didn't know one had to be unbiased to racism, apartheid and ethnic cleansing.

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One can if all 3 are made-up...

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How nice to have an anti-Semitic Nazi in our midst! Jerk.

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Palestinians are semites so calling him an anti-semite makes no sense.

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That's right LetThemEatCake! It's about time someone stood up for the downtrodden. Likewise, never watch anything with a white person in it because someone from their culture had owned slaves. For the same reason, black people and Muslims also bought and sold slaves in the past. Don't get me started on Native Americans - human sacrifices! I won't even get into the atrocities by some Asians and Indians over the course of history.

I do enjoy the video of burning logs in a fireplace though.

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not the same though.

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Not the same thing asswipe. Being an Israeli Zionist is pertaining to an injustice happening right now. If someone white was supporting slavery today i'd boycott them just the same.

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That’s Mister Asswipe to you!

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Yes, I think she pulled it off in fine style. I don't have a problem with her physique either. She looked athletic and I think that was enough. Her speed and strength are supernatural in origin, so bulging muscles weren't needed.

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She wasn't believable at all. I'm so frikkin tired of all these skinny girls with absolutely no muscles mass posing as superstrong superheroes. Have we got any male skinny and muscle-less superheros with superpowers? No, so why should the girls be any different.

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I think it can be difficult for an actress to be bulked up enough to match what we see in comic books and not face backlash from a public that mocks women who bodybuild and levels transgender insults. Also it could present issues when those women try to get cast for any other role than a superhero. I think Linda Hamilton was something of an exception because while she did get extremely fit for T:2, mostly she stripped fat--she didn't really add a ton of muscle. She got very lean--she lost size, not added bulk.

For men, when they get ripped it can open a lot of doors as action and even romantic leads (Chris Pratt). Neither is intrinsically good or bad, but I think it can be more complicated for women if they go "all in" and train as a bodybuilder for a superhero role.

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Actually, not all male movie superheroes are bulked up. If you look at Marvel heroes then obviously Thor and Captain America have fantastic muscular bodies... and their fellow Avengers Iron Man and Bruce Banner have fit but normal builds. And Doctor Strange and Skylord are fit, but not bulked up. And in the awful DC films Superman and Aquaman (spec) the only ones who's hugely muscular, the Flash is even a skinny little guy. So no, the stereotype of the huge muscular movie superhero is not generally true these days.

Now the fact is I like to see women with muscles and flesh on them, but like many of the heroes we have been watching, her strength doesn't come from sheer muscle power and she doesn't have to be huge to be believable as strong.

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Thank you for your thoughts. I would agree that a superhero like Superman or Thor is definitely going to need to present a bulked up physique to match the traditional presentation of the character. Even Batman has appeared more muscular on screen (both Christian Bale and Ben Affleck).

For Bruce Banner, I think that his Hulk persona is always going to be very muscular--it's there in the name, the Hulk, ha ha--but his Bruce appearance works best as *not* overly muscular. And Iron Man's strength is in his suit, so he doesn't need to appear muscular, although Robert Downey Jr. is pretty ripped these days. Also, for Flash, it might seem visually odd if Barry Allen is zipping around like Arnold Schwarzenegger when the perception you might have of a fast zippy sprinter is very lithe and lean.

For Skylord, is that maybe Star Lord from Guardians of the Galaxy? I think that a lot of viewers still think of him as buff, although possibly that's a lot because of the transformation that Chris Pratt underwent from being a little schlubby and cuddly in his Parks and Rec days.

Personally, I think a strong female physique is very attractive and appropriate for these roles, but I still suspect that a lot of the *other* roles these actresses might audition for wouldn't suit that look, and so they tend to not work out super hard to pack on the muscle. Exceptions could be Hillary Swank in Million Dollar Baby or Emily Blunt in Live Die Repeat, although even that didn't seem to go to the degree that you see male actors in super hero roles.

All this makes me want to go rent some MCU movies! :-)

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IMHO the stereotype of all superheroes having builds like pro bodybuilders comes more from comics than movies. In the books all the male heroes are massively muscled and the ladies have whatever build you find in the artist's fantasies, but the movies use actual human beings. There isn't a huge amount if body diversity in the movies but there's some; fir instance in the books Magneto was bulky and muscular when I saw him last, and in the movies he's played by McKellen and Fassbender, neither is a big man.

As for Gadot, well, her power comes from magic and/or divinity and not steroids, so I was willing to accept a woman who looks athletic in the role. And a good director made her look bigger and more impressive than she is, I thought it worked.

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Definitely! We're in complete agreement there. I thought her portryal worked well for me, and the mythological element took care of any questions I might've had about how she could pull off the feats she did. Her power came innately from her identity as Diana and not the hours she'd spent at the gym.

I was struck recently by the shift in how musculature is portrayed in comics. I was reading Batman: Year One, which was released 30 years ago in 1987. Batman looked solid, certainly, but nothing like the ultra-pumped look you see common to superheroes now. The style of art itself has changed significantly. I'm not criticizing it, but it does seem to be reflected somewhat on the screen as well.

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Id say yes!
She was hot as hell and was competantly filmed to seem like an ass-kicker...despite her less than imposing frame...
Worked for me
*the movie was a bit too long tho imo
But no complaints

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fuck yeah she pulled it off. In spades. She absolutely made the movie.

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Made me actually want to see Justice League when I had given up after watching Batman v Superman.

Oh, and I want to see the fabulous MB Vision Gran Turismo driven by Bruce Wayne!

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Given the storyline, no, and the reason I say no is because it was a 'coming of age' story about a woman who I would assume to be a teenager of about 18 years.

The 'fish out of water' storyline didn't work quite as well, given that the actress is in her 30s.

She generally looks younger than her years, but in a few shots she looked 30s, especially in London so I found that instead of looking young and naive, she just seemed like an odd-bod.

Also, given the lifespan of these actors in action movies (we got Ironman approaching 10 years) I don't see a 40 year old Gadot impressing audiences as much. That's just Hollywood. Men can get lined and it adds 'depth' to their character but women can't.

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Perhaps some lucky boy did get it 'pulled off' by Gadot on the set of the film. The mind boggles.

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