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My message board pet peeve ...


As I go back and look through comments made before in IMDB by old accounts that no longer exists, there is a lot of nastiness.

What is lacking like in IMDB is the ability to put these older accounts on "ignore". Like personally I put anyone on ignore who uses certain terms, like "butthurt", or "snowflake" ... the right-wing insults of the day because I know nothing of value will ever come from reading posts by idiots.

But I cannot do that with these old IMDB comments. I had a huge, thousands list of ignores on my IMDB account, and now it is all lost.

Does anyone know or can suggest a solution to this? So far there are not a lot of trolls here on Movie Chat, it reminds me when IMDB first started.

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No, I don't think there's any way to ignore the archived posts or posters with accounts from the old site. Just don't read them.

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True, but it should not be that hard to implement. There are some users that need to be deleted, like the commenter after you.

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even i dont like this whiskey dude, he whines a lot

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If he had to actually be in proximity to the people he talks like that to, he would be dead a long time ago now. Thank goodness for ignore.

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That nasty comment got deleted.

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Which nasty comment?

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If you missed it, consider yourself lucky

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I think it would be difficult to implement, and even more so to decide which posts/users should be deleted, and which shouldn't.

Sure, there was a lot of trolling on various old IMDb boards that would be better deleted, but most understand they're old, imported posts/threads, and can be easily scrolled over because few of the OPs are here and would have any way of knowing their posts even had any responses.

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What's the weird logic of Trolls deleting a comment? I thought they were all-I'm tough etc etc .

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You've got me. No idea, unless it's in a futile attempt to avoid being either banned or chastised. I don't get the logic behind trolling to begin with, except (wah, wah) people who didn't get enough attention when they were kids, so now ANY kind of attention fits the bill because they're too immature to figure out how to deal with it.

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Exactly!I figure if they are going to post something then stick with your opinions not delete them

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Most are not opinions. most are insults, and most are better off deleted, and who says the author deleted them ... most should be detected and deleted by the system or the moderators.

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I think the logic of trolling is to get at people.
That is the only thing it does, right, so that must be its point.
I think there are different types of trolls to, but I think the major
ones are fake. I think politically the Internet, even at IMDB can
be a powerful tool to establish links between people, and common
beliefs, and the powers that be want that NOT to happen above
all because then democracy would really work. So from the very
start they have worked on technologies to create online identities
that no one questions and that they think are real, and then amplify
them by changing them a bit and creating a virtual troll reality that
distorts the reality of regular people. Notice that in general the one
thing most trolls have in common is that they are right-wing, that
is there is a common political bias in almost all troll postings.

Go back to the early part of the last century and you see early
psychologists doing experiments where they would ask an unknowing
person to step into a room with other people and then they would have
the group come to a consensus on something that was obviously false,
like the color of a certain object or something. They would ask the
people what color is that object, and go down the line until they got
to the poor dupe, and then ask him. A majority of the time people go
along with what they think is the group thinking ... groupthink.

The CIA did experiments with this stuff in order to develop technologies
to help them overthrow countries and install dictators. I think there are
a lot of trolls that are fake people, and the more political their comments,
and the more non-factual, illogical and emotion stirring their comments
the more likely they are to be fake.

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Aren't you kind of stating the obvious here ? Of course they're " fake people. " It's a false, online persona that allows them to offend, harass and attack with impunity.

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I mean fake people as in computer simulacra. Have you read or heard about the AI programs that monitor the API or UPI and then write stories based on the skimpy facts, or they can listen to a broadcast of a baseball game and pick out certain parts and write articles about it that sound like real people wrote them. The natural extension of that technology would be in propaganda and disinformation.

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Some of the more offensive comments might end up getting deleted by mods. Not sure which is more common.

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I wonder what could be worthy of being deleted by a mod? I'm not saying it could be a troll post, but what about if you see this for example: evolution of Apr ejaculate? I don't know if the moderator or even poster can answer this but if the post is legit with info is it still deleted or would the post have to be goofy. I'm curious as I see posts like this, but I don't know if it has value should it be left alone or reported?

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That topic was made by a troll

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And now that thread is gone, along with several others by the same troll.

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LOL..I remember those posts. Technically, it was mentally stimulating. I had some good conversations with the guy and he shut up because I had some good knowledge on it.

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No, he got shut down by a moderator.

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I guess it was after last night.

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That is what I wonder. I like free speech as the next patriot. But is there a sure fire way to know if it does provide mental stimulation or is it a troll post causing trouble. Its a tough call.

If it's sincere I say no harm. Let them talk.

I guess if the op is a troll as the others are claiming it's good it was shutdown.

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It looks like the only one remaining is about nature being inherently evil and I suspect it's because the topic has some credibility and it garnered some worthwhile feedback.

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I seriously felt like he may need more knowledge on it. Sometimes loopy posts can lead to great discussions.

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I think you guys really help ed me to see the difference. I think now I won't be so quick too judge it until further evidence suggests otherwise.

Thank you for the advice.

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Then again, you can never be too careful. Try being the person, when someone gets frustrated at you, to be the one that gives them knowledge of why they are so heated. Some may actually thank you for allowing them to look inside themselves for that moment. I have had times where people did not respond in such ways and that is actually how I lost my job. There are also those people who just act on instinct and if you help them, they may kill you. So really, you have to just feel it out. Most people just want to be heard and hearing them out makes them actually normalize.

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The previous post of theirs was full of foul Language,criticizing people.Calling them names and then self deleting it quickly.

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I do not think it would be completely gone if it was self deleted. Whenever I have deleted my posts, they stay there and have this [deleted] right under my account name.

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You know I had about 500 on ignore over at that 'other' site. I dislike the "f' word immensely and that is why. I also despise lewdness, another reason. So no I guess I will get many responses with just these😁

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But then warn those people, before you block them. How do we know you hate curse words?

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That is part of being a civilized human being ... you try not to go out of your way to offend people, sheesh!

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What would the world be like if we did not laugh at ourselves once in a while? So I take it that you hate sarcasm too?

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why is it that people seem to think if someone disagrees with them on something they are justified in making judgements about them that they have no evidence or ideas about. I am talking about civilized human beings ... to you does that mean someone who cannot laugh at themselves, or hates sarcasm, cause I don't see the connection.

If you meet someone why would you think any of that applies if you swear at them and they don't like you?

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Because they feed on people who always fall victim to them. If you are mentally strong and have a strong sense of security, no matter what anyone says about you, it will not affect you even the slightest. Victim mentality only goes so far and then it's like the boy who cried wolf.

If people swear at you, which they should not be doing; brush it off. You cannot be an individual who has to take it personally. Why do you let it affect you? If you let it affect you, this is when the trolls will have a field time with you and the only security you then have is an ignore button that will never come. We should be grateful that Jim put an ignore button on now and now you want to ignore old threads because written swear words, not even aimed at you, somehow make you feel insecure?

Give me a break dude. It goes both ways. Okay, we get it, you do not like being sweared at; however, your insecurity or whatever you want to call it, is kind of the other end of the troll spectrum. Like I said, it is like the boy who cried wolf. You might as well live in a room full of padding.

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> If you are mentally strong and have a strong sense
> of security, no matter what anyone says about you,
> it will not affect you even the slightest.

Lots of BS in that statement.
First, that is your opinion, but you have nothing to
base it on but you believe that, it is your opinion.
It doesn't make it right, in fact more than likely since
no one knows you and you are posting here it probably
means you are wrong.
Second, what about people who are not mentally strong?
I just they deserve to get dumped on by some sick jerk's
negativity ... is that what you think.
It is clear that you have never read any neuroscience
and in general just do not know what you are talking
about - which begs the question, why are you talking
so aggressively about such BS? The answer must be that
you are a negative person too dealing in negative energy.

You do not have to be a victim to dislike negative people
like you, in fact the least victim people are the ones smart
enough to see your kind of ugliness and steer clear of it.

Finally, I did not make the post, I'm just explaining the
toxic psychology of the people who make posts like that
who someone else was complaining about.

I don't think there is anything you can say to me that it is
a postive use of my time to read, so I put people like that on
ignore.

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Well I tried to explain it and you are coming off as a troll, so there is not much to be said.

Majority of people would have accepted it because what I do see here IS victim mentality.

Not only that, but you did exactly what you accused me of, in the last post. "if someone disagrees with them on something, they are justified in making judgements about them that they have no evidence or ideas about".

Hey, unlike you, I brush it off though and I am not offended by it. If I was offended by it, I would have made some kind of convoluted statement about opinions, like below, and how I need to be backed up by people, in order for it to be fact. Instead, I just assume that you will still fall victim like you do, when a situation like this arises and you seem to. You are justifying that it is okay to still be the victim. lol

"First, that is your opinion, but you have nothing to
base it on but you believe that, it is your opinion.
It doesn't make it right, in fact more than likely since
no one knows you and you are posting here it probably
means you are wrong."

I would definitely need some sort of Brux book, not a neuroscience one, to figure out what you were saying through this convoluted statement. I am not sure if it is even grammatically correct and this may make it harder to decipher.

It is opinion, but the evidence is clearly in your posts. Look at the rest of my comment, through its entirety. I basically paraphrase what you do to act like that.

If you are not mentally strong, you ARE part of the problem because you allow your ignoring to help resolve your problems. It is the equivalent of blaming your problems on other people, to escape what you cannot handle or having to confess up yourself. What does a normal person do, they hurry up and get strong. No one should have to cater to you especially because we are all equal.

"why are you talking
so aggressively about such BS? The answer must be that
you are a negative person too dealing in negative energy."

So a positive person acts like a victim?

That makes no sense.

"You do not have to be a victim to dislike negative people
like you, in fact the least victim people are the ones smart
enough to see your kind of ugliness and steer clear of it."

Is that a fact or is that YOUR opinion?

"Finally, I did not make the post, I'm just explaining the
toxic psychology of the people who make posts like that
who someone else was complaining about."

Who made the post then? Feel free to list the account name of the person who made it. You were in agreement and I sensed a deep victim card radiating from it and I called it out.

"I don't think there is anything you can say to me that it is
a postive use of my time to read, so I put people like that on
ignore."

I honestly wonder how you survive in real life. lol

I would never miss someone that is THAT sensitive nor that victimized. Who knows, you could end up being someone mentally unstable and end up harming someone if your victim card is not tended to. These are the scariest kind of people. Pretty much anything can be blamed on someone else, by being the victim of something; but because they are in denial of using the victim card, it puts everyone else, who disagrees with them, at fault. In a society like ours, the victim could most likely be the killer and the time served behind bars, by falsely accused predators, is horrible to say the least.

That's not really fair to others around you. Do you not think OR do you not care? It is not in agreement with you, denying to being a victim of all this.





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No , I love snide and sarcasm , I'm a fanatic for Seinfeld!

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Well, you and Brux answered different questions than I had intended for you both to answer, but okay.

Your question was actually: Why not warn people that it is their swearing that will get them ignored by you?

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OK

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The guy seems like a troll. Look at how he responds to my posts and I never once swear at him. lol

This individual is TOO OVERLY SENSITIVE.

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Are you guys directing this all to
Me? I answered the post honestly. I place on ignore those who cannot or WILL NOT express opinions without having a grip on the English language or any language. Those that feel the need to be vulgar or lewd or just plain ignorant.

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What happen?

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Brux

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Boo fucking hoo.

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Snowflake, etc.

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I feel like we need to all be protected in a padded room.

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My suggestion. Get over it. It's the internet. It's a public forum. Yes, trolls and the like are annoying, but we are going to come across posts that we don't agree with. That's just how it is. The trolls are unavoidable, other people's language and opinions are too. Don't like it, leave the internet or stay off public forums and social networks.

In the real world we can't just put people on ignore but I'm willing to bet you're the type who would if they could though. Please excuse my presumptions; I have a hard time feeling sympathy for people who get flustered at how others talk on a Public Forum. To me it's like being surprised that you're dead after jumping off a bridge LOL

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The guy is a victim troll, the other kind of troll.

If someone is that sensitive on a public forum or in the world in general, they are usually in a padded room in a mental asylum.

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We can only hope hahaha

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The solution snowflake, is to grow up, and be an adult.

You're just going to have to used to the idea that there are people out there who do not like your sorry ass, and
will tell you so in no uncertain terms. There are no participation trophies (like you got when you were a kid) in real life.
It's unfortunate, but true.

Grow up, get a job, and move out of your parents' basement.


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You know, I actually did not realize that until I lost my first job. Life really does not hand out participation trophies, once you get dropped. You could say it was the business's fault; but who suffers in the end? You. I am the one without health insurance coverage (employee covered), I am left with all the bills to be paid, and I am the one that needs to find a way to survive. How would I victimize myself out of that?

How does the OP get out of that situation? Would he just disregard that the business, he worked for, was at fault and he should be able to sue because of his own ineptness to do a job?

I wonder.

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Sorry to hear about your losing your job, arvin. Hope you find a new one soon. Hang in there.


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I actually was able to find a part time and I am so thankful now. The other job was the weirdest job I had done. Apparently, there was no micromanagement and the coworkers decided my fate. I was never able to address what they were saying I did wrong because management kept it under wraps ( I guess for fear of lawsuit).

It taught me that, in those situations, job loss is actually easier than one would think. I thought it would be hard to lose a job. I never did anything that would constitute misconduct and I followed every direction to the T. Weird. When I applied for unemployment, they never said I did anything wrong either.

Funny enough, my part time actually pays me the same amount, biweekly, as my full time did, when benefits and taxes taken out.

I appreciate the words though. It always helps. It is no fun and when bills are piled high, it gives me the heebie jeebies.

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You're welcome. Glad to hear about the new job.

Sometimes you're going to get knocked down by life. The important thing is to get back up and keep going.
As they say, "That which does not kill me, makes me stronger." And as Chumbawhumba said in Tub Thumping:
"I get knocked down, I get back up again. Ain't never gonna keep me down."


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It makes me wonder if Chumbawhumba ever lost a job....

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My guess would be yes.


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So then he started a band and he made that.....

Oh....I get it :)

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I googled them. According to Wikipedia they were formed in 1982, and then in 2012 they announced their decision to end the band. On their web site the members stated:

"That's it then, it's the end. With neither a whimper, a bang, or a reunion."

A moment of silence here.


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But but if they are down, eventually they'll get up again

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I also found out that they were formerly known as Skin Disease (Yuck!), Antidote, Scab Aid (Yuck!), Sportchestra and The Middle (as a hoax).


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"I had a huge, thousands list of ignores on my IMDB account"
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Holy Christ!! In all honesty, and not saying this to be mean, but if you needed to put that many people on ignore, then internet public forums are probably just not for you.

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The guy is an obvious troll.

He did also state, in one of his posts to me, that he pretty much ignores people who are in disagreement with him.

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I don't think the OP is a troll, although I could be wrong. Just haven't seen any post to indicate it.

He dislikes swearing so puts a lot (a LOT) of people on ignore, and wants to be able to ignore even the old archived posts/posters. Okay, his prerogative, but that's not trolling.

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The guy even put me on ignore for telling him that he is being too much of the victim. I never swore at the guy once. lol

I think he needs his little place of isolation because he is definitely testing my patience. I would not have a care in the world if I was on his blacklist.

Trolling, to me, is posting something to gain attention. This guy wanted attention for telling everyone that he is a victim for all those swearing at him and pretty much everything he says is that other people are at fault, through my discussion with him. If he is in disagreement with them, he pretty much will put you on ignore.

So what was the point of posting if he dislikes disagreeing with people and getting a rise out of people when they tell him that he is always victimized 24/7?

There are several posts here from members and some of them call him out for being the victim that he is.

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😒

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We really need to get emojis to show up on this site, unless they do. I can only see them in my email notification from this site. So weird.

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I see them not only in the notification email,but in the site too,it is weird that you don't see them,you report this to jim or moderator 1?

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It could be the Google Chrome Browser. Most of the sites I pay bills on want me to upgrade, well I am not gonna!

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I use a mobile device,like i said ,no problems, don't upgrade unnecessary things.

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Oh, that is why. Yeah, on a mobile device, it would appear. On laptops, depending on how outdated the browser is; would dictate whether or not an emoji would show up. I know on my older cell phone, it would come up like it does on here, a rectangle. For cell phones, it is mostly because the memory is such that it cannot create the emoji.

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"Cannot create emoji",au contraire mon ami,my cellphone has in his memorie already
pre-installed emoji,you always download emojis,if you don't have them

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If that was also from your mobile, then my browser is really having problems.

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Yes ,it is,time for upgrade,friendly advice 😉

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Well, you'll have to admit being told you're too much of a victim is kind of inflammatory, yes?

What I got was he wanted to know if there's a way to ignore posters on the archive threads, and that's why he posted. Not to get attention.

I just looked through his posting history, and still don't see any trolling.

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Yeah I guess.

Then again, I am not the only one here who thinks the guy needs to toughen up. Still, there was no excuse for him to ignore me, if his own guideline is that he ignores people who swear.

I originally responded to another member on his thread and then he responds to me saying that just because people swear, they are not being civilized. How unfair is it if you are ignored by him just because you had no idea he hates swearing? Maybe I am trying to please both sides or something. I mean it is his choice, who he wants to ignore; however, ignoring them because they swear (and not even directly at him).

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I'd rather deal with a troll than a thief, I loaned my friend $6000.00 for plastic surgery, now I don't know what he looks like.

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ba dum psh

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Could be. But me personally, I don't care either way. I have my own internal Ignore System lol. 😉

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::::click click:::: And my internal Ignore System is now activated LOL 😉😂

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Or maybe you don't know anything about it and just want to make smart remarks. It's nice when people make obvious trollish remarks because here it is so easy to put people on ignore. It clears out the garbage from the message boards so you do not have to waste a lot of time.

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