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what is our society coming to?


If movies like this can be nominated for "best picture" Oscar, I have concerns this country will soon become unlivable.

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Hahahahahahahahahaha!


That’s the only response idiotic people like you deserve. Losing hope in humanity over a movie you hated. *huge eye roll*

Pathetic.

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Hyperbole, exaggeration and Trolling. Don't take that post as anything more than instigating.

The poster doesn't even understand the nominating process let alone anything about Society and or the Movie Industry.

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Why would you think I am trolling, I am completely serious. The liberal agenda and the political correctness has reached unprecedented heights if such an unremarkable movie could be nominated for a best picture Oscar. It's a symptom of an extremely sick society.

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It's an extension of affirmative action and it will die down soon when "minorities" get sick of being pandered to by rich white people. BP wasn't the worst movie ever nominated for an oscar, so I'm not too worried.

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One can only hope that integrity will prevail.

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I'm starting to think it isn't going to die down, which is depressing as hell. Instead of being less relevant, race and gender now matter more than they have in decades - we are going backwards and these dipshits think it's a positive.

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I am bothered by all the "more women" speeches too, and I am a woman and a feminist. There was so much of that crap at the Golden Globes.

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All this would be solved by individuals having more self-confidence and working to get what they want on their own merits, rather than trying to get a free ride because of their gender, or skin color, etc.

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Just yell MAGA and Build the Wall and go back to shopping for tiki torches, will you?

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Wow, what a profound and intelligent response.

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It's difficult for many to generate original thoughts in this age.

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It's the fragile egos. They shatter like glass when the worldview is challenged, that's why they lash out so much.

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Then they should stick to watching television and Hollywood movies, where the worldview hasn't changed in nearly 30 years.

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I was playing to the intelligence level of a Trump supporter. Meaning you’re stupid.

Which I had to explain.

Because you’re stupid.

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You reveal yourself to be an even bigger idiot with each new comment you make.

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To quote a moron I found on the internet....

Wow, what a profound and intelligent response.

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This is sheer propaganda. Just say something preposterous with a straight face and watch the needle move. With all the Big Business tentacles in the pubelican party it's enough to create it's own agenda, so if the other side is battling that, yeah, I guess that's an agenda. Kinda like Spider-Man and Superman, fighting evil is the agenda.
And more PC crying? Talk about an imagined ill ! What is PC doing to impair your Quality of Life? Does Black Panther being on the Academy list impact your bottom line? Not me. Haven't seen the movie, don't care to, don't care about the 2019 Oscars. Hopefully something worthwhile is selected.

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Why are you on this discussion board and in this specific topic, no less? It wouldn't even occur to me to spend my time on a forum for something I have no interest in.


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When BP came out, it was quite the phenomenon. I've passed on this topic many times so I finally decided to see what was going on. I apologize for coming on strong while claiming to have no interest. But the Liberal Agenda and PC stuff makes me crazy.

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Why would you think I am trolling, I am completely serious. The liberal agenda and the political correctness has reached unprecedented heights if such an unremarkable movie could be nominated for a best picture Oscar. It's a symptom of an extremely sick society.
I did not accuse you of Trolling. I said you were instigating. But now that you doth protest too much:

1. You're trolling because movie watching is a selective entertainment option. No one forces you to watch anything.
2. The Nomination process is done by a body of people based on a campaign by the entity (Disney) that owns the product.
3. Nominations have no impact on the political process, laws, regulations, mores, doctrine, etc that governs life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
4. Freedom of expression gives you the ability to state words in any incoherent fashion as you choose to express a limited view of your understanding of topics such as these.
5. Public discourse and conversation allows you an avenue to learn more if you so choose.

Yes. You're trolling. You're not very good at trolling. You're neither serious nor entertaining because you lack both conviction and knowledge to anything that you're tolling about. Thus hyperbole and exaggeration and now Trolling.

Additionally you offer no solution to your dire protestations of life as you know it. Here is one solution that will help you and your view of the slippery slope in your allegedly Extremely Sick Society: Don't participate in your own sickness.

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Wow, I didn't think anyone could be this exhausting and pedantic, yet here it is...

In the future just keep your useless analyses to yourself, no one could possibly be interested, and it's such a waste of time for you.

But seriously, this is quite amazing - you are like the least normal person on here, worse than the "racism!"-screaming imbeciles.


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In the future just keep your useless analyses to yourself, no one could possibly be interested, and it's such a waste of time for you.
Oh my, did you or did you not reply to my post directly? I didn't mind you replying but apparently you were totally unprepared for my response.

I offered suggestions and advice and as with all things you are free to ignore them or use them. You continue to try and instigate by throwing around terms that again you know nothing about.

"But seriously, this is quite amazing - you are like the least normal person on here, worse than the "racism!"-screaming imbeciles."

Still trying to instigate some non-righteous Faux indignation over "Racism" on this board or is it "Reverse Racism" that is bothering your fragile existence in this Extremely Sick Society?

Food for thought: Don't Participate in your own sickness.

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Not sure what effect you think your drivel is supposed to have, but it has none on me.

Carry on.


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I didn't *hate* the movie, btw, I just thought it was nothing special.

I mean, if we are talking popular movies, Mission Impossible was much better, as were Ant-Man & the Wasp and Avengers: Infinity War. And Deadpool 2 and Ready Player One.


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Agreed actually , ready player one and IW I prefer

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No, you hated it and are definitely a racist because you disagree with the absolutely ridiculous agenda-driven Best Picture nomination.

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I must be...

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In case you didn't see my other reply, I'm copying it here.

I think his point isn't the significance of the award itself, but it shows the decline of common sense objectivity, and our current culture of pandering to identity politics. We are recognizing ideals as quality, but putting the actual artistic product secondary. This is a dangerous road for art. I don't want creativity to devolve into a competition for how many pats on the backs we can give ourselves.

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It’s disgusting this movie is nominated for Best Picture. I’m not trying to be racist, but the only reason it’s nominated is because it’s African American. This movie is nothing, but a generic superhero movie. Avengers Infinity War was better and was that nominated for best picture.

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Guy , seriously , get a grip , there's much worse that's been nominated , don't let politics cloud your judgement , it's was a good film , just as entertaining as first man and a star is born , just because it isn't a serious drama, make it less entertaining and worthy nomination

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That's not what I am saying though. I am saying that it was a very mediocre movie even in its genre.


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I don't disagree

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Good. :)

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The color of my underwear is more important than Oscar noms.

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A decline in the arts represents a broader decline in civilization. I am flabbergasted that his has been nominated for a Best Picture award. I tried to be open minded and watch this, but I couldn't get through more than 20 minutes.

This nomination is a very troubling sign of things to come.

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Yes, it's sad, and agree it's a huge decline. But, LBH, the Oscars aren't giving out awards for best...whatever. There's so much virtue-signalling going on. Halle Berry beat Judy Dench!!! Let that sink in. That was for 2001 Best Actress nominee. Halle is not that good of an actress. She also beat out Renee Zellweger & Nicole Kidman! Disappointing.

But, virtue-signalling. Like Black Panther & that whole marketing campaign. Sad because LBH, Luke Cage was way more awesome, way better looking of a film, way better scripts.

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Judi Dench may be my favourite actor in the world right now. She was extraordinary in Mrs Brown, Notes on a Scandal, and, particularly, Philomena, but IMHO Halle deserved her Oscar for Monsters Ball. That was a much more powerful and vivid performance than anything Dench, Renee Zellweger (who struggled with a British accent as 'Bridget Jones' in a part that should ideally have gone to Kate Winslet), and Nicole Kidman did that year (and all three women have ended up with an Oscar, so it's not like they've permanently lost out).

Halle, unfortunately, has rarely been given the type of decent material to shine to the extent that she did in Monsters Ball, but, alas, and contrary to your 'virtue-signalling' argument, white-run Hollywood rarely knows what to do with a beautiful black woman. Since most black female roles tend to run the 'full' gamut from sassy and chubby housemaid to sassy and chubby best friend/co-worker, there doesn't seem to be much room for Halle.

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(((hollywood))) nothing but a propaganda machine

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Are you trolling? I can't tell.

But even if Black Panther isn't perhaps the most worthy Best Picture nominee in Oscar history, its nomination hardly signals the collapse of civilisation, does it?

I say that as someone who likes Black Panther, and finds it a perfectly serviceable and competently made film which only transcends its genre roots thanks to some particularly strong performances (especially Michael B Jordan's) and the relatively, for a family-friendly comic-book film, complex and edgy socio-political themes.

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I think his point isn't the significance of the award itself, but it shows the decline of common sense objectivity, and our current culture of pandering to identity politics. We are recognizing ideals as quality, but putting the actual artistic product secondary. This is a dangerous road for art. I don't want creativity to devolve into a competition for how many pats on the backs we can give ourselves.

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I think you are correct, Burk...but it feels almost as dangerous to speak these truths as is dangerous to artistic integrity.
It's a egg shell walking kind of world where anything you say might be taken out of context or misrepresented.

But the Awards have long been political in one way or another, haven't they?

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They have for the last 20 years, which was when I started paying attention. As far as an eggshell world, I agree. Luckily, I'm a member of the "I respect your rights, but fuck your feelings" club, and our numbers are growing every day. The US is very fickle historically, and the general population doesn't put up with nonsense for very long. This current snowflake generation is on it's last leg.

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Why would my completely serious post be construed as trolling?

Anyway, I'll re-post here what I said in another thread, because I think it's relevant:

What *is* its cultural impact, though? Africa is a disease-ridden, poverty-stricken, war-torn continent, and this is a fairy tale about a powerful, affluent, technologically advanced African nation.

It's like putting on VR glasses to escape into a world where you are beautiful and healthy and rich when in reality you are destitute, decrepit, and living in squalor.

I don't see how it helps black people.

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Because you went against a certain jerk circle that get their panties in a twist every time somebody dares to speak ill of a Marvel movie. Go have a look at the Captain Marvel board...

I fully agree with your post. I don't see either how a fantasy movie depicting a fictional nation with fictional technology and society has any relevance to the real world. Next time LOTR Orcs will be deemed racist? Oh, wait...

Also, yes it's a very mediocre movie on every level and if the cast was entirely white, it would've underperformed. Badly. Tried to watch it twice, fell asleep the first time and got bored and never got to the end the second.

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The leaders of the country will speak ebonics and dress down.

Commerical for products will use rap songs.....the febreeze car smell baby.

Ever play a civ game and whe you are doing Good your cabinet members wear fancy suits and when you are on the decline your cabinet members look ghetto.
Getting pretty ghetto out there

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