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Looks well-made, but not sure


I can get past a 100lb woman with arrows fighting a Predator. This would be more believable if it were about an entire group of hunters because that's what it would take from that era to take a Predator down.

And before some dingus comes back with, "That's what Arnold did", not exactly. The Predator had been wounded in the firefight. It was bleeding already. Arnold was also a trained killer who is about 260lbs. He also kept the gun powder and used it to again wound the Predator. He also dropped a fucking tree on it. This girl couldn't do that.

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yaaa you are dumb and fragile.

look at the "physical feats" male action stars do in their movies. you can only suspend your disbelief because you've seen these impossible, over the top things before 1000 times.

its not as if all these action stars are doing what is within the realm of physical possibility cause stye are "super strong" yet have these females doing the physically impossible.

you are just more used to seeing the ridiculous physics bending shit from guys

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No

I can see the point the poster is making everything Dutch did in that film is realistic.

His team was not rookies they was veterans who was called upon for jobs no one else could do.

Dutch himself yes he went toe to toe but not straight up fist fight we see it in the film he uses his experience of tactical battles he knows he cant straight up fight the creature.

Everything he did was not Hollywood fantasy as you are trying to make out like other films do.

This new film is not out to judge fully it may be a case of her using tactics but from what the trailers have shown that is not the case she is a hunter who wasn't that good then becomes some super hunter (its looking more like the BS being pushed to claim women/men are on par with each other science fact they are not)

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Dutch himself yes he went toe to toe but not straight up fist fight we see it in the film he uses his experience of tactical battles he knows he cant straight up fight the creature.

No, he did have a straight up fist fight and got brutalized. Dutch lasted as long as he did only because the predator decided to be a good sport and fight him as a human would, and even allowed him to land a couple of punches (perhaps only because it was still acclimating to hand-to-hand combat).

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Speaking of dumb....

Men and women are not the same. There's no comparison between Arnold, Danny Glover, and this character. NONE.

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deep insight.

1. where did I say they were?

2. you advent seen the movie

3. if you think Arnolds characters are realistic, but a girl who has broken what law of physics isnt, you are dumb

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"deep insight."

Stop wasting my time, hypocrite:

"yaaa you are dumb and fragile."

" you are dumb"

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yes you

1. mischaracterized me and said something I never did

2. you made a judgement about how a film is before seeing it.

3. I called out the nonsense that male action hero are realistic but females aren't

THEN I called you dumb

I made 3 coherent points you couldn't address, then pointed out your stupidity!

you are just confirming you are fragile and too dumb to rebut my points. and instead whined and played the victim.

LOLLLLLLLLLLLL you proved my point! thanks!

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LOL!

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The first thing you wrote to OP was "yaaa you are dumb and fragile".

You said that before saying anything else. lol What the fuck.

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It's a movie. They had 150lbs Adrian Brody take on the predator and win.

The way I see the predator films:

1&2 are cannon.

Everything else is fan fiction.

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"It's a movie" isn't a magic bullet for a movie's flaws.

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Hence my final two lines. I only see two movies as part of the series. The rest doesn't matter.

You figure that after this group of movies has had so many disappointments that people would learn to not care anymore.

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That’s exactly where I’m at with movies these days… Especially with all these sequels/prequels etc etc..

After the Last Jedi, I threw in the towel.

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Yeah, same here. Sequels, prequels, reboots, remakes, retellings... first I did care, being like "Why!? the story/franchise was so good, why do they fk it up like this?".

Now I just choose to discard which of them I think are not worth it. Regardless of what producers/directors may say.

It's like when you need a specific article at the store. You get there and there's now 8 variants of the same thing. Sometimes too much is no better than not enough.

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Definitely not a 150lb man. Dudes pretty ripped in it. Comparing him to a small woman isn't valid.
https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-predators-2010-adrien-brody-nimrod-antal-dir-20th-century-foxmoviestore-136294397.html

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Lol. It's still a valid argument when he's up against a 300lbs athletic alien with 1.5 feet on him.

I assume you've never done combatives with bigger or smaller people. Being ripped doesn't do much.

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I was a pretty decent wrestler at one point, and I could handle guys without the knowledge twice my size. Having said that, the thing he's fighting did seem to be a proficient hunter, so in that regards he definitely was outclassed.But you claimed he was 150 pound guy. My post was simply to show that wasn't a valid statement.

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That's an intended exaggeration. The point is still valid. While people talk about the size issue for this, they fail to see that every character who takes on the predator is completely out of their weight class. Schwarzenegger was a rag doll compared to the original. It's skill, tool usage, and outthinking that leads to survival in these movies.

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Brody gained muscle mass for Predators you dumbfu€Κ he was 200 pounds not 150

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Lol. Still massively underweight.

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Underweight for what?

People are missing the point when speaking about size/weight.

It was a long time ago I saw that film what was the style the character used and his skill set this is what matters mixing this with physical condition.

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Mentioned that 7 days ago. You're not wrong.

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I don't know how believable it will look, but I have a little more trust in this than I would normally. It has an interesting setting, looks decent from the trailer, and the director is the same one who did 10 Cloverfield Lane, which was pretty good. My expectations are at least higher than the AVP and last Predator movies. Admittedly though they couldn't have been any lower.

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The trailer makes it look well-made, but I can't think of a single thing to make this even remotely believable.

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Can't pass too much judgement on how believable it will be yet, we don't even know how it ends, who wins, or what. I would hope they are not stupid enough to suggest she will be able to outdo the Predator in strength and will focus more on the skill aspect, if they are indeed going down the route of this female character taking him on.

Maybe it's a slightly less evolved and more beatable version of the Predator than the one we saw in the original?

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It's be nice to see a Predator win for once.

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Now that I would watch!

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That's what's holding me back from being too interested. A group trained soldiers armed with an arsenal of military weapons were slaughtered taking this thing on and i'm to believe that a petite 100 pound woman with a bow and arrow from 300 years ago is gonna give it a run for it's money.

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"A group trained soldiers armed with an arsenal of military weapons were slaughtered taking this thing on and i'm to believe that a petite 100 pound woman with a bow and arrow from 300 years ago is gonna give it a run for it's money."

This is what it boils down to.

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And it's hilarious how she holds/uses the bow and the axe in that trailer ...

https://ibb.co/VTztgVL

WTF?

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I have absolutely NO desire to see this.

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It's obviously not gonna be a typical Arnold type vs. typical unstoppable Predator type movie. If anything, because it's a prequel, it's likely that everything the Predator learns during this film is what helps it become the unstoppable beast it is later on. We don't actually know what level it's at strength-wise or what it knows about people at this point in time.

And the girl being small and fast as opposed to buff and big just means the stakes will be far higher and her fighting style will be different. I wouldn't expect someone like Jackie Chan to fight like Jason Momoa, for example. Doesn't mean one fighting style is better than the other. We also don't know that this girl is going to win - if anything, it's more about her surviving than defeating the predator, since we know the predator survives. I wouldn't be surprised if no person survives this movie.

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I would love it if not person survives! Makes total sense given the time period. The would be a good believable story. A bunch of warriors/ hunters going up against something they simply can't beat. Fought hard, but lose? Totally respectable.

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Obviously not something they would advertise in the trailer because then there'd be no tension, but it seems likely that the movie will be more about trying not to die than winning against the Predator.

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And hey, if they manage to survive, that's a 'win' in its own way!

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Yeah, I assume it would be like a live to tell the tale type of survival, and that it would become a legend told to other tribes.

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That would be nice. Makes sense too given the title, Prey.

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Do we know the predator survives? We can't rule out it dying yet, it would after all be a theme with these movies if it did.

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It's a prequel, so I'm gonna say it's likely. Also, given how it dies in the "future", I doubt anything from the past could kill it.

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It's not like there is one Predator though. We know there are many. Who is to say this is the same one that was in the original movie set much later? I don't even know how long Predators live for but that suggests it's well over a century or 2 old.

It seems unlikely it would die at the hands of a primitive tribe yes, but in the original it still died, not from any more advanced technology that the Comanche possess, but by Arnie using his intuition and setting a fairly primitive trap with rope and logs, potentially something this tribe could do.

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Yeah, you're right. I can't really answer that. It just doesn't seem likely anyone in this time period could kill it. And we don't know a lot of things about the Predator. But given that it's intelligent enough to have space-travelled and it seems damn near indestructible in the earlier films, who's to say what else it can do? Maybe it's able to live for centuries, maybe not. Maybe it survives this movie, but dies of old age and the ones in the "future" are its offspring. Honestly, it's hard to say.

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What could work in the favour of the tribe is that they know the geography of the area and are familiar with the surroundings. I'm thinking of the likes of Jaguar Paw in Apocalypto who used his familiarity of the jungle to take out the Mayans who came after him. Obviously the foe is a lot more advanced but you get the idea. This wasn't something Dutch and his team had going for them. All they had was Billy as a tracker.

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Agree, that could work for them.

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So the predator in this film is supposed to have the same capabilities as the ones in the first two films?

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What do you mean, like a teenage Predator or not as much technology available?

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Something like that. You know how some hunters like to use handguns, bow, black powder and other primitive weapons instead of the modern smokeless powder rifles with scopes and range finders?

As far as I know, the Predators are on Earth for the thrill of the hunt. If it was just body count, then they might be shooting their prey from an aircraft or using much more powerful weapons that lay waste to a large area so they can go gathering skulls for their collection, like the Predator in the first film.

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I'm very curious as well. I would assume it has less. No plasma cannons.

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It's a possibility that it doesn't. But then, if they have the same capabilities of building a spacecraft to get to another planet, they would most likely have the same weapons as they did in the original movie. But who knows, you know how these movie makers are, they'll come up with anything and to hell with continuity.

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Yeah, they'll come up with anything, like Arnold taking a dip in cool water and covering himself with a thin layer of mud to hide from sophisticated alien imaging hardware.

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Yeah but it worked great for the movie LOL 👍👍

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