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So is Michael Myers magical or just really tough to kill?

posted 3 years ago by grhqofb5 (327)
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Not really sure how Myers' and the Halloween universe is defined, or what the rules are. For example, we now know after multiple sequels that Jason Voorhees is magical because he's reincarnated, dug up from the underground and revived by lightning, can survive underwater for weeks in a harbor, and can live through being frozen for hundreds of years by liquid nitrogen.

Same thing with Freddy. He actually exists in a parallel dream universe and can influence reality. No debate about that one, the writers got right to the point.

What about Myers? He's been shot multiple times, stabbed, hit with blunt objects repeatedly, fallen out of windows, and been burned alive in a basement cage. I guess its possible to survive all of that. I do not recall magic being involved, just that he is the essence of evil.

[–] millsey72 (9636) 3 years ago

I just think its a plot hole. Michael Myers should have been killed several times already

[–] grhqofb5 (327) 3 years ago

I agree it's a huge plot hole. Half the script ended up in the fireplace to get the runtime down. Could have had someone explain the situation in a voiceover or something like that though.

[–] Ldlamb (589) 3 years ago

The fact that something like this isnt fully explained by a certain point in the movie isnt a plot hole

[–] ODB82 (2055) 3 years ago

Laurie mentions something about Michael being not human and growing stronger from killing but she also thinks he’s obsessed with coming after her and that doesn’t seem to be true. She knows jack shit.

The Director has said Michael isn’t supernatural. That has to be a complete lie, right?

[–] pelosfx (136) 3 years ago

Exactly. No plot hole. Suspensing disbelief, maybe. Plot device,maybe. Not a plot hole. A plot hole is something the writers overlooked or made inconsistent, not a ruse to produce more and more installments in a saga

[–] Lord Rake (3867) 3 years ago

If someone doesn't take a piss throughout the coarse of a film these guys will label it a plot hole.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

I don't get people like you. Michael was shot 6 times at the end of the first movie for Christ's sake. He's been burned, beaten, shot, stabbed, maimed, and he lives. How much more evidence do you need that he's super natural? He's evil incarnate. You even said it yourself.

There's no explanation for Jason not dying btw; or randomly coming back in part 2 after being dead for a decade.

[–] Ripkens25 (1917) 3 years ago

The beauty of the original (‘78) film is....that we simply didn’t know, and that was scary.

The shame about each subsequent sequel is...we know way too much about him, and see him too often. Everyone in the sequels knows his backstory....his family life....his upbringing....his address, etc. SMH.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

He got shot 6 times and fell off the balcony, you didn't know from that point?

[–] QueenFanUSA (3375) 3 years ago

LOL

[–] grhqofb5 (327) 3 years ago

Yeah, but it doesn't matter what I think. It's what the writers think, because that's what makes it true. Just like when people ask George Lucas if Han really shot Guido first. If he says yes, then its true. If he says no, then its not true. If Harrison Ford says yes, no one cares.

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

First of all, fuck Lucas and his "special" editions.

The writers of Halloween made Michael get up after being shot 6 times and falling out a window.

[–] grhqofb5 (327) 3 years ago

Yeah but a person could survive that

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

No they could not, LOL.

[–] millsey72 (9636) 3 years ago

You knew his back story in the original and saw him as a 6 year old kid murder his sister

[–] CrabgrassWilly (1616) 3 years ago

I thought at the end of this one, they confirmed that he was. Something about the spirit of evil animating him or some such mumbo jumbo.

[–] grhqofb5 (327) 3 years ago

No, he just burned up in a fire again.

[–] TheArgentinian (6495) 3 years ago

They didn't pay attention to Laurie's monolog

[–] kuatorises (7467) 3 years ago

There's no hard confirmation in the sense that an exact, specific, and detailed answer is stated - and they are smart to do that. Less is more. The Thorn was a specific answer and it sucked. But is Michael an inhuman force driven by some kind of evil and hate? Absolutely.

[–] Anotherday (7393) 3 years ago

The proper response is, "Evil never dies."

[–] ADBruno1985 (3315) 3 years ago

They'll probably bring up the Thorn in Ends

[–] Strazdas (2328) 2 years ago

He is the boogeyman. Have you seen boogeyman die?

[–] grhqofb5 (327) 2 years ago

Yes.

[–] Strazdas (2328) 2 years ago

Lie.

[–] be236 (40) 2 years ago

They need to chop up his body in pieces and burn it into ashes. End of story.. let's see his ashes recombine and form a human body again... I think not.

[–] grhqofb5 (327) 2 years ago

Nope. See the T-1000 in T2.

[–] Kowalski (60379) 2 years ago

MAGICALLY TOUGH TO KILL.