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Anyone else felt sorry for the black guy?


He seemed like a really good dude, really wanted to help them. Basically destroyed his life’s work to save people. And he had a wife and kid.

His death was pretty sad

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One step forward, two steps back in racial equality. They make the guy a scientist, but then they kill him off in the movie. They do this so often with black people, portray them as noble and moral, but then they end up dead, sacrificed for the white man. Like it or not the stereotypes that we represent are components of the movies and stories we read and watch. I hope someday we can overcome that or resist making cheap exploitative movies.

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"...sacrificed for the white man."
All you see is skin color and you even value skin color differently it seems.
Would it have been any different if he would have sacrificed himself "for the black man"?

People like you are the issue.
Virtue signalling idiots who think they are so righteous but ultimately are the real racists.
You do not even see that Miles sacrificed himself for EVERYONE. It wasn't about John, or Sarah, it was about the whole damn planet.

He understood that.
You did not.

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Racist and another example of white privilege

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You're racist and a retard. There's no such thing as "white privilege". Get over yourself..

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What are you talking about? In my college class just before Covid, all the white students apologized for it. Our professor was so proud of us for acknowledging it. You are the problem in this country!

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You're an indoctrinated nazi and I couldn't care less if you consider me a threat to your fascist party! blow me loser.

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I'm telling my college professor what you just called me

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I could not have said that better myself, apparently Milsey blindly follows what this “college professor” says, I am still looking into this but I highly doubt he got into college, if this professor actually exists he’s obviously a fraud.

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You just set race relations back another decade.

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see it *looks* like an intelligent post , well constructed with a good vocabulary ...
But when you analyse it , its just all typical vitriolic internet bullshit

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LOL, I thought you meant the black guy who had his hand broken in the parking lot.

Black people don't come out well from this movie.

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Yes, that was a very sad scene, the poor guy is first told that his life's work ends up destroying civilization and then he gets killed, and he seemed like a thoroughly decent guy with the best of intentions.

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I saw this in the theater in '91 and I remember that it was a pretty intense scene for the crowd. I felt genuinely bad for him--poor guy was shit out of luck.

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Yeah. Frankly it has always bugged me that the cops blew him away when he didn't even pose a threat to them. They didn't even give him a warning to put the detonator down and put his hands in the air.

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Dude, Arnold's character is a mass murderer in the Terminator world and he just lit up the police with a mini gun. Sarah is considered a terrorist. Dyson is with them. They don't know he's innocent.

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Yeah but he wasn't armed.

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No they didnt blow him away
yes he was armed
did you watch the same film?

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He did not have a gun. He had the bomb detonator and if they had not pumped him full of lead like a bunch of trigger happy jerks the building wouldn't have been blown up. They should have negotiated instead of pumping him full of lead.

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They didnt pump him full of lead , they took advantage of his kind offer to hold off blowing the building up while they gtf out of there.
Possibly they made it, keeping in line with the the films "good guys dont kill people" ethos

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What are you talking about? As soon as they saw him they pumped him full of lead.

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"He did not have a gun. He had the bomb detonator"

*Facepalm*

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The fact is that what really caused the building to blow up was those stupid cops.

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If the building didnt blow up , robots would take over the earth and kill everyone.

There are no bad guys here. The cops are doing their job and Dyson is saving the World.

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Robot takes over the world in the future anyway. His sacrifices were in vain.

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I realize that but it doesn't take away from the fact the cops just saw him with the detonator and began shooting him. Didn't even tell him to put the detonator down or give him any kind of warning. Just shot him. I really don't think that's proper procedure especially when the guy who was the most armed who shot up the police cars wasn't even around.

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I realize that but it doesn't take away from the fact the cops just saw him with the detonator and began shooting him. Didn't even tell him to put the detonator down or give him any kind of warning. Just shot him. I really don't think that's proper procedure especially when the guy who was the most armed who shot up the police cars wasn't even around. Also there is the point that for all the security guys knew Sarah and the Terminator might have taken him hostage.

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The building would have blown up if the cops didn't show up, ya dingus.

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Agreed. He seemed a good guy, and I felt sorry for him.

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EVERYONE did. You're SUPPOSED TO feel bad for him. Dyson was a good man. He was trying to create something he thought would make the world a better place only to find out it was responsible for the apocalypse. Then he dies tryomg to stop it. It's a heart breking story arc.

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He gave his life so others could be saved. A true hero!!!

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