Her cancer is back.


She's been battling stage 4 breast cancer for a few months now. I was never a big fan, but one has to feel bad for a person who isn't even 50 yet.

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Like you, I was never a fan but that doesn't change the fact that I feel for anyone who has to deal with this. She also has issues with her insurance company after her house burned down in the California wildfires. Tough times for her.

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Yep. I think her treatment now is just trying to slow the cancer to buy her some time. There is no "Stage 5" cancer.

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I wasn't a super fan but I watched her in Beverly Hills 90210 Charmed and I knew she was in Girls Just want to Have Fun (she apparently did more)

Okay so she was not perfect re personal etc conduct but this is still really bad news.

The only 'good side' is that 'Brenda' and 'Dylan' will be united together in heaven---kinda like fate.

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She was in the cult classic "Heathers".

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Pioneergrrrl, your last sentence is stupid. Everyone will die and be together in the afterlife/heaven/so why is it "fate" that she and Luke will be both dead? You will die eventually too. Fate is death eventually...

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Yep. If they were actually trying to stop the cancer at this point she would be undergoing serious chemo and suffering from all the effects. My guess is she is using palliative care which would give her a better quality of what life she has left.

As I recall the first time she had cancer she didn't just go full force with a mastectomy and tried some alternative treatment, and only had the normal mastectomy treatment when the alternative treatment was proven ineffective as the cancer had started to spread to the lymph nodes. Frankly it was probably this stupidity that has put her where she is now. When she was first diagnosed it was stage 0 or 1, which would have been very treatable with a very good chance of elimination if she had not tried the alternative bullshit. But when she ignored normal treatments until it progressed to stage II or III (unclear exactly which it was because she only mentioned it had spread to the lymph nodes but never gave precise details) her chances dropped considerably.

If anything good can come from where she is now it is to may convince any women that get diagnosed now to stop the alternative bullshit methods and go full speed with the standard treatments as soon as possible. In a way she appears to have gone down the same stupid road that Steve Jobs went down when his first attempt at treating his cancer was some wacky new age bullshit.

I'll never understand why so many people want to try alternative forms of treatment when they know the normal methods are at least based on sound science.

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I'll never understand why so many people want to try alternative forms of treatment when they know the normal methods are at least based on sound science.


Steve Jobs made the same mistake. Even exceptionally bright people can fall prey to conspiracy theories. Jobs thought a homeopathic cure (suppressed by the medical community of course) would save his life. Most medical professionals are of the opinion that his nine month delay in surgery cost him his life.

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Very true. Although he had pancreatic cancer, which usually has a poor survivor rate, his was a rare less aggressive form of it. His diet was also cited as insufficient.

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Informative post. Are you an oncologist or radiation therapist?

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Neither, but when my mother-in-law went through it everyone in the family started researching breast cancer like mad. Unfortunately when she found it it was already stage III. What Doherty has described sounds very familiar. I only hope that it doesn't make it to her liver, that was where the cancer ran its course with her and I still remember the last months when she was on a continual morphine regime that still didn't seem to work.

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Ugh. Sounds horrible. I think I'd up the morphine until I drifted to the other side.

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She asked for that very thing more than once in the last weeks. Seeing what I saw, if I ever get diagnosed with liver cancer I'll be planning a trip to a state where euthanasia is legal.

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We put down our pets when they are in unbearable pain but there is taboo when humans want to do it. Religious dogma has a lot to do with it.

Hopefully you won't have to make that decision and you die peacefully in your sleep with a clear conscience :)

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Well unlike you i wouldn't put down everyone who decides to go a alternative/holistic route. Take Dirk Benedict for instance. He was diagnosed in the early 70's at the start of his career with cancer & he found someone who encouraged him to go the macrobiotic diet route & he pretty much cured himself, so there are success stories out there believe it or not.

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That's very much the exception and not the rule, however. Why not go the alternative/holistic route while also using conventional medicine?

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He had tumor on his prostate that was only believed to be cancer but never verified to be cancer. Not to mention prostate cancer is one of the slowest progressing cancers out there and the latest studies indicate that not treating it is often a viable option unless it interferes with your ability to urinate because those that do nothing usually die from something else before the cancer can get them.
So he may have had a cancerous tumor, he may have had a benign cyst, from all accounts he never had a biopsy to find out what he had. So I'm not willing to put any faith in his macrobiotic diet curing him. If it was a cyst then it may have gone away on its own if he had decided to live on a diet of M&Ms and Big Macs.

Ask Steve Jobs' widow how well a macrobiotic diet worked for Steve.

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"Like you, I was never a fan but that doesn't change the fact that I feel for anyone who has to deal with this."

Likewise. I've lost a couple of friends to this, the cancer returned and it couldn't be stopped the second time. My sympathies to anyone who has to go through this, it's a terrible thing to face, and I hope she has someone to turn to for support.

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I thought she was adorable on Our House.

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I watched BH 90210 and Charmed and enjoyed her in both. I was also glad she returned in the revival. This is very sad.

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She was an excellent sport in the 90210 revival, to actively play up to the bad rep she has and to be the butt of many of the other cast-member's jokes showed wonderful humility and self-awareness to me.

I've always been very fond of Shannen and I'm deeply saddened to hear this news.

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She was excellent and very funny and definitely missed in every episode she wasn't in.

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yes it wasn't the same without her.

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I enjoyed the revival way more than I thought I would, and I loved her "character" in it. She really was a great sport and I was sad it wasn't returning for a second season.

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My thoughts exactly, it was a surprisingly entertaining show with clever writing and just the right balance of nostalgia and satire. That a smart, funny show like that gets canned and shit like The Bachelor lives on in perpetuity is a telling reflection on the state of TV, or perhaps of the audience who lap up asinine reality TV at the cost of every storyteller trying to get their original, narrative-based material made.

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“Nobody ever went broke by underestimating the taste of the American public.” - H.L. Mencken

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I WATCHED EVERY 90210 WITH MY SISTER BACK IN THE DAY,PROBABLY HALF THE CHARMED EP'S AS WELL...TO ME THOUGH,SHE WILL FOREVER BE RENE FROM MALLRATS!...HOW ODD IS IT THAT LUKE PERRY IS GONE AND NOW SHANNEN IS SICK...DYLAN AND BRENDA SHOULDNT HAVE TAKEN THAT SUMMER JOB REMOVING ASBESTOS FROM THE PEACH PIT.

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Gotdamit…..you made me laugh asshole.

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https://www.lipstickalley.com/threads/shannen-doherty-reveals-she-has-stage-iv-cancer-five-years-after-being-given-the-all-clear.3198302/page-7#post-54499428

First. She smoked like a chimney. They all did on 90210. I loved Luke. But he looked a lot older than 52. Same for Jason Priestley. Smoking will do a number on you.

Second. When her insurance lapsed. She should have kept up with her Mammo’s since she was over 40 with a history of smoking. If she could not afford an out of pocket expense. There are options for a Free Mammogram. If her doctor didn’t call or send reminders about her annual. Shame on them.

Three. She Waited a year after diagnosis and then got radiation and chemotherapy. I don’t know If she had the mastectomy before or at the time she decided to get conventional treatment. Not sure how that works.

Four. Stress. This is self explanatory.

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That all sounds like speculation.

Regardless, it's rather unsavory to start victim blaming when someone announces they have a cancer that will almost certainly kill them.

By the way, what's with linking/copying conversations from other forums here? Is this your quote or someone else's? I'm never sure with your posts.

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Just about speculating about how everybody gets cancer is by default or extension "victim blaming"! I mean, you just don't magically get cancer right out of the blue or thin air right!?

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The tone was accusatory. Apologies if that's not the way it was intended.

What about my quote question, I'm actually really interested to know.

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Notice how right-wingers LOVE to blame. Same ones will be over at the Limbaugh thread jumping on others that are critical of Rush.

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People get cancer out of the blue all the time, dummy

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You completely misunderstood my point! It would be ignorant to not (even if it comes across as "victim shaming" to some) take into consideration lifestyle choices or the environment that you were in (such as in Shannen's case, the Little House on the Prairie set, which was filmed not to far away from a contaminated nuclear site) as a cause for one's cancer.

https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/1in3cancers/lifestyle-choices-and-cancer/

https://www.asbestos.com/news/2012/01/25/report-half-of-all-cancers-are-caused-by-lifestyle-choices/

https://www.macmillan.org.uk/cancer-information-and-support/worried-about-cancer/causes-and-risk-factors

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I can only reply to what you say; you're the one who said it.

Stupid.

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How am stupid and a dummy for saying that you just don't always get cancer out of the blue!?

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That isn't what you said,though, is it? You stated it as an absolute and now you're straight lying by saying "I didn't say always..."

Yes, you did.

You're just a big, stupid, lying dummy, ain't ya?

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Okay then, point blank, why do you think (without resorting to ad hominem like name calling) that Shannen Doherty has cancer since you think that what I'm saying is wrongly stated as an "absolute"!?

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I have no clue why the poor lady has cancer.

My issue has nothing to do with oncology.

I'm just saying "words have meaning".

Ad "hominem" (not "hominum". Gawd, you make it easy)attack goes here.

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So what, I'm being a bad person for wanting to speculate and examine the reasons why Shannen Doherty has cancer!? And what you don't think that Shannen herself (or anybody else who has had to do through having cancer) has wondered herself? Keep in mind that I never said anything along the lines of Shannen for whatever bad things that she may have done in the past is some sort of karmic explanation for her getting cancer.

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Sigh...no, that's not what I'm saying at all...nevermind...you'll never come close to even circling the drain of what I'm trying to say( even when I state it in one explicit quote).

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Why should I listen to you or take you seriously after you randomly called me a "dummy" for saying that not everybody just gets cancer right out of the blue!?

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I have no clue why you're taking me seriously or replying...see why I call you names that question your intelligence?

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Because you're the on who went out of your way to directly insult me for laying out a point of view that was different from yours!

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So why do you feel the need to reply?

Are you that easy?

All.i have to do is call you a dummy and you're triggered enough to guarantee a reply?

So weak.

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In the immortal words of Fred G. Sanford, "You big dummy!"

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"You dont just magically get cancer right out of the blue or thin air right?!"

Where did you say "not everybody"?

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You said "People get cancer out of the blue all the time, dummy"

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I was quoting you, dumbass.

Do you not remember writing that?

Wow, you really are stupid.

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You're fucking unbelievable! I don't understand why yourself get so up in arms for wanting to theorize and look into possible reasons why a person gets sick in the first place. And you were responding directly to my comment about how people just don't get cancer out of the blue! Why did you say that people get cancer out of the blue all of the time!? How am I a dummy for suggesting that it more than often isn't purely or simply like that!?

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I said I had no theories, stupid.

You've referred to yourself as a dummy now more times than I've said it.

Damn, well trained dummies like you dont come around very often.

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That's practically the same thing (again, just because you literally said that you don't have any theories mean that you weren't actually implying or insinuating to just a thing) as suggesting that you have no clue how or why Shannen got cancer!

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What?

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Dummy dummy dummy dummy

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Also if you stated that you don't have any clue how Shannen may have gotten cancer, then you quite frankly have no business responding to my earlier statement!

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Of course I know that you were quoting me! What I'm trying to say is that just I'm virtually saying the same thing so I don't understand why you feel the need to ask me about where I said "not everybody"? Do I literally have to spell it out for you to get my point more clearly across to you.

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You really dont get it, do ya?

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You forgot "dummy".

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I can't do it every time. I feel it dilutes it's.

But, yeah, I did get if from Fred Sanford. Good call.

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LOL. Well played.

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Thanks. I try.

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I think he probably argues with his reflection when he can't find anyone else.

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Yeah, you'd think at some point it would just be easier to take the loss. I did.

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The internet speculation is ridiculous. I know Shannon is not some big star anymore but its laughable to think she couldn´t afford an out of pocket medical expense for a cancer checkup.

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SHE WAS BORDERLINE BANKRUPT A FEW YEARS AGO..SAME TIME SHE TOOK THE JOB ENDORSING THAT ONLINE COLLEGE SHIT.

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Hollywood "borderline bankrupt" is not the same as Joe Blow on the street bankrupt.

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HER HOUSE BURNED DOWN AND THE INSURANCE WOULDNT PAY OUT AT THE SAME TIME AS HER CAREER STALL...BITCH WAS SLEEPING IN A CAR AND ACCEPTING FOOD FROM FRIENDS TO SURVIVE...I GET IT,SHE IS FAMOUS...BAD LADY...STILL NO REASON TO PLAY THE BLUE COLLAR,SHE AINT BETTER THAN ME CRAP.

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Her last seven years:

2013 - insurance lapse
2014 - sues managers for lapse
2015 - diagnosed
2016 - chemo, radiation, and reconstruction?
2017 - cancer free
2018 - home badly damaged in fire
2019 - cancer returns, Luke Perry dies unexpectedly
2020 - battling lawsuit where diagnosed is disclosed

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This seems cold.

I’m sure we all just wish her the best.

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Well, I'm not making that up about Shannen, now am I!? I was just illustrating her streak of bad luck over the past few years leading up to this!

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I know, facts are facts. Having them listed like that at a time like this just seems a little frosty to me. I don’t know the woman but she has entertained me so I feel it’s more respectful not to talk about the why or when just yet. Not trying to be the emotion police though, it’s just the way I feel about it myself.

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Shannen Doherty hits back at State Farm after insurance company allegedly lied about her smoking habits in house fire claim

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-7980369/Shannen-Doherty-hits-State-Farm-insurance-company-allegedly-lied-smoking-habits.html

The 48-year-old revealed she's been diagnosed with breast cancer

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http://www.agcwebpages.com/BLINDITEMS/2014/MARCH.html

83. ENTERTAINMENT LAWYER 03/07 **#9**

http://goo.gl/wzHNAT

This former A list mostly television actress has come a long way down from her peak. She was on two hit television shows that were both long running and now she just stays inside smoking meth waiting for a phone call from her agent to get parts which don't exist for her right now. She was really upset at what happened recently for some of her co-stars.
Former A list actress: Shannen Doherty
Two high shows: "Beverly Hills, 90210" and "Charmed"
Co-stars Tori Spelling and Jennie Garth in ABC Family sitcom "Mystery Girls"

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Shannen might I add, also worked on the set of Little House of the Prairie, which was filmed just 15 miles away from the Santa Susana Nuclear Laboratory:
https://moviechat.org/tt0071007/Little-House-on-the-Prairie/5e42437ddde61c69a22ac1e6/Did-working-on-the-Little-House-of-the-Prairie-set-ultimately-cause-Shannen-Doherty-to-get-breast-cancer

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I like her. Hope she goes the holistic route.

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