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My daughter has experienced her first incidence of racism towards her.


My daughter is 10 this year and has been lucky enough to have avoided racism until now. I am Caucasian and my wife is Indonesian šŸ‡®šŸ‡©

She is a Cub Scout and the two women who run it are in their 70s.

A recent task was to draw an angel, so she drew one that had brown eyes and dark hair, like herself. One of the leaders told her to do it again because, ā€œangels only have blonde hair and blue eyes.ā€

When I heard what had happened I was livid and wanted to make a complaint because you just canā€™t say things like that nowadays. Anyway, my daughter just shrugged and said, ā€œDonā€™t make a fuss Daddy - sheā€™s just an old ladyā€, which I thought was pretty cool.

So, Iā€™m going to respect my daughterā€™s wishes and move on; Iā€™m still upset about it though.

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AREN'T YOU GONNA TAKE BETS HOW LONG THIS THREAD WILL INSPIRE POSTS....I VOTE FOR RIGHT AROUND THE TIME YOUR DAUGHTER STARTS HIGH SCHOOL IT MAY DIE DOWN HERE A LITTLE BIT.

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I had no idea that this would go on for so long.

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Ironically but not surprisingly, a 10 year old girl handled this harmless situation significantly better and more maturely than her own dad and pretty much most of the people posting in this thread.

Did you guys contact the United Nations already?

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Wow, you read all of that?!?
I think a few heads exploded trying lol.

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It's like a bad car crash. It's ugly but you just can't look away.

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Good comparison...'Thank God I'm not involved in any of that!'

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"...her own dad and pretty much most of the people posting in this thread."

Well aren't you just so above the fray? šŸ™„

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Not sure what that is supposed to mean.

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Uh, no, a ten year old girl was bullied by an old lady who should know better. It's an unacceptable racist message and an adult who oversees children needs to be reprimanded. I'm guessing the child handled it by drawing a blonde angel.

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She should have drawn a blond angel with big pendulous breasts and a cock and balls. "Is this better?"

Signed, million man

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That's what a ten year old "me" would have done. But nah. What the old lady did was wrong.

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I agree. I was just injecting some humor.

Signed, million man

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I WOULD HAVE GONE BACK AND MADE A SATAN...MY FAVORITE ANGEL...WOULD HAVE EXPLAINED IT TO THE LADY TOO AND DONE DEVIL HORNS...PROBABLY CURSED ALOT...IN HOPES OF INSPIRING A HEART ATTACK...BUT...ANDYKING'S ADORABLE CHILD WASN'T DIAGNOSED WITH MULTIPLE MENTAL DISORDERS AND HEAVILY RECOMMENDED MEDICATION THAT HER HIPPIE PARENTS REFUSED...SHE IS A LOVELY GIRL...I WAS A LITTLE MONSTER.

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I don't know either of your kids but they sound wonderful.

Signed, million man

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Stop giving my daughter ideas, lol.

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Your daughter is right not to make a fuss, and you are also right to be upset. An appropriate response to this old lady would be drawing a blonde angel next to a non-blonde angel with a note "They are all the same in God's eyes".

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My daughter is pretty laid back.

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Must get it from her mother rather than her old lady murdering father.

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Absolutely! Incidentally, Iā€™ve got builders laying a new patio in the back garden šŸ˜³

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Great response!

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Do you think his name was supposed to be "Cowbell" but he accidentally put an "r" instead?

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Needs more, eh?

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I wonder if the old bat was taking a racist swipe at your daughter.

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No idea - weā€™ve put it all behind us. Letā€™s hope thereā€™s no repeat of this.

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Andy, clearly you have something you want to say. You keep posting, but you say nothing.

Say it. Be a man, say what you want to say.

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You know, every day I log onto here, I see topics I don't care about ,that I have not hing to say about.

I ignore them. I don't bother to post in them. I dont care.

You clearly have somoething to say, but are afraid or unable to say it.


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And still you have to post, even though you can't bring yourself to say what you want to say.


Hey, those little old ladies do anything else wrong yet?

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ā€œHey, those little old ladies do anything else wrong yet?ā€

Not that Iā€™m aware of.

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Good. Hopefully it is not out of fear.

Did they celebrate Pride Month?

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ā€œHopefully it is not out of fear.ā€

I wouldnā€™t know.

ā€œDid they celebrate Pride Month?ā€

I donā€™t believe so.

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Your daughter wasn't a member yet?

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Sheā€™s been going for about 2 years.

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You didn't notice whether or not they celebrated Pride Month?

Isn't that important to making potentially gay children feel... "inclusion"?


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They did not celebrate it.

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Odd you let that go. How big of a troop is it? No gay kids? Or are they just ignored?

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Between 20 - 30. I have no idea or their sexual orientation.

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You continue to fundamentally mischaracterise the UK. Most people don't celebrate pride, nor care about it.

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You speaking for Andy now?

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I don't need to speak for him to know that you are completely misrepresenting the UK culture.

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Tell it to the girls of rotherham.

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What does this incident have to do with you suggesting that we all observe, or are pressured to observe gay pride here?

Should I condemn the USA, and make sweeping attacks on its culture based on all of these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexual_abuses_perpetrated_by_groups#United_States

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It is all part of the same liberal use of "ism" and "phobes" to justify using power and fear to control people.


There is not a similar behavior on the other side.

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>It is all part of the same liberal use of "ism" and "phobes" to justify using power and fear to control people.

What does this, specifically, have to do with "What does this incident have to do with you suggesting that we all observe, or are pressured to observe gay pride here?" This is just fundamentally a false claim. No-one is forced, pressured into observing gay pride events in the UK.

Should I condemn the USA, and make sweeping attacks on its culture based on all of these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexual_abuses_perpetrated_by_groups#United_States

>There is not a similar behavior on the other side.

Right-wingers, reactionaries, just hurl abuse and attacks at LGBT people and progressives. Many of them on here do it. Do I need to remind you that I have been accused of being a pedophile?

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The answers are still the same. If you wish to challenge my answer, do so, don't just ask the same question again.

That's retarded.

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Nothing new has been said here so I will just copy and paste myself.

>It is all part of the same liberal use of "ism" and "phobes" to justify using power and fear to control people.

What does this, specifically, have to do with "What does this incident have to do with you suggesting that we all observe, or are pressured to observe gay pride here?" This is just fundamentally a false claim. No-one is forced, pressured into observing gay pride events in the UK.

Should I condemn the USA, and make sweeping attacks on its culture based on all of these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexual_abuses_perpetrated_by_groups#United_States

>There is not a similar behavior on the other side.

Right-wingers, reactionaries, just hurl abuse and attacks at LGBT people and progressives. Many of them on here do it. Do I need to remind you that I have been accused of being a pedophile?

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BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

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Nothing new has been said here so I will just copy and paste myself.

>It is all part of the same liberal use of "ism" and "phobes" to justify using power and fear to control people.

What does this, specifically, have to do with "What does this incident have to do with you suggesting that we all observe, or are pressured to observe gay pride here?" This is just fundamentally a false claim. No-one is forced, pressured into observing gay pride events in the UK.

Should I condemn the USA, and make sweeping attacks on its culture based on all of these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sexual_abuses_perpetrated_by_groups#United_States

>There is not a similar behavior on the other side.

Right-wingers, reactionaries, just hurl abuse and attacks at LGBT people and progressives. Many of them on here do it. Do I need to remind you that I have been accused of being a pedophile?

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YOU ARE SO WEIRD.šŸ™‚

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This whole thread went weird real quick, lol.

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Skavau is the one that gets a hold of a thread and ruins it

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I think it was Corbell who took it off the rails.

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I would agree with this.

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ā€˜Needs more cowbellā€™ got in there first.

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I think the only thing Skavau is guilty of here is banging their head against a brick wall.

When an American decides (as they do with surprising frequency online) that they somehow know more about your country's politics, culture, social norms, &c, than you do, or that these differences are irrelevant to the argument, it's probably time to say fuckity-bye.

But I do admire Skavau's optimism in imagining he can use reason where no reason has previously taken root.

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Dammit Andy, do you see what you've started?!?
I am outraged and I don't even know why!
Yaaarrrggghhh!!!!!

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And I am outraged at your outrage!

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Let's all rumble behind the gym after school, it's the only sensible solution to this pickle we are in thanks to Andy's trouble making!

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It's a date! That Andy is such a rascal, always causing mischief.

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Andy made a simple post a week ago and now we are living out an S.E. Hinton novel!

Greasers, LET'S ROLE!!!

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It certainly looks that way on this occasion.

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Iā€™ll referee.

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I am outraged at your outrage at his outrage.

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I feel surprisingly calm. This thread has taken on a life of its own.

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It's hilarious tbh:)
WTF is wrong with people lol?

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You may have missed the disgusting post that mechajutaro made earlier, which got nuked by the Mods.

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I didn't see it. I don't know that poster but if the MODS zapped him he likely had it coming.

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It was so disgusting that Iā€™m not going to repeat it on a public forum. Letā€™s just say, itā€™s not something you direct at a 9 year old girl.

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I've already had a brief run-in with him also. He's on my shit list.

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Wow, the trolls are thick here of late. I'll be aware of that one from now on. Sorry that happened.

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Iā€™ve been here years and was probably the sickest thing Iā€™ve ever read on here.

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I'm glad I didn't see it.
Anyway, we still have a solid core crew here, the phony dirtbags never last for long.

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I think thatā€™s why the Mods zapped it as fast as they did. I think it would have caused a massive shit storm if anyone had read it.

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I READ IT...AND IMMEDIATELY REPORTED IT.šŸ™‚

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Thank you. I was dumbfounded that anyone would post something like that.

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He strikes me as one of those wannabe shock-jock, provocateur types. It's good he's now on the mods' radar.

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Agreed.

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Can anyone explain how this is not a political topic and is allowed to stay here in Gen. Dis.?

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There is no mention of politics in the original post. Andy doesn't mention any politicians or political parties or political views, so it has nothing to do with politics.

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RACISM IS NOT POLITICAL.

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Sorry old chap! No politics here šŸ˜šŸ˜˜

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Your concerns are valid and I think you both handled the situation perfectly.

Whether or not itā€™s racism is a moot point, Iā€™d say the number one issue is why a child care professional would say something as insensitive to a child in their care. Age is no excuse, if you are going to say something that has the obvious potential to make a little girl feel inferior then you simply are not competent enough for the job.

But again, your daughter showed great maturity in her reaction, which I can only assume is the result of a loving upbringing, so kudos to you Andy King!

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Thanks for your kind words.

I always tell my daughter that she inherited her awesomeness from me, lol.

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