Why was John Lennon murdered?
In the 1980, when Mark David Chapman shot and killed him, what was his motivation behind the terrible deed?
Also, has he been released and where does Chapman now reside?
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Maybe the FBI programmed Chapman
shareMaybe Chapman was made an offer he couldn't refuse. Or maybe the gun was loaded with blanks and the whole thing was faked.
Aren't there something like 33 secret service agencies? Why pin it on the FBI?
shareBecause J. Edgar Hoover named John Lennon as "Enemy #1" after he got John Sinclair out of prison (Lennon wrote the song "10 For 2" for The Concert For John Sinclair - 10 years for 2 joints) the day after the show..
Watch "The US vs. John Lennon", that's just one story, and a good documentary.
Here you go:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_David_Chapman
But based on everything you have heard, what do YOU think was the motivation, what was the final truth?
shareAt the time, I thought it was so his name would be forever connected to Lennon's. After reading the article I linked, that doesn't seem to be the case. I don't see any reason to doubt what Chapman himself says. Do you?
sharehaven't looked into this in a long while, but after reading the wiki article, it seems that chapman follows somewhat closely the alt-right pattern of a culturally conservative, religiously obsessed, reactionary - and lennon was quite explicitly a confrontational figure of the left. the fact that chapman's religious group joked about murdering lennon is telling. perhaps chapman was currying favor with this group, or perhaps he was acting more-or-less autonomously. he was clearly obsessive/delusional, as are a large percentage of non-state assassins.
i had not realized the political dimension. nice job bring this up, OP. i learned something.
That nails t. How could you not see the political dimension? He sang "All we are saying, is give peace a chance." over and over again.
shareUp for parole for the 12th time next year...Why does the legal system even consider unlocking the gates for these loony birds?
shareIt's not like he's going to kill John Lennon again.
Maybe they've figured out the meds cocktail for this dude after 40+ years and he's not going to be dangerous.
It's like the Manson gang - these people in their 70's are going to physically harm me?
Murderers and all of those rapist sorts as well as Felony Arsonists should be locked away until they are ready to be buried in a grassy field in a quiet ceremony
I will not budge from this opinion, have a swell evening
And you're the one that has suddenly become fond of the word "sanctimonious" over the past 24 hours, using it repeatedly against other posters. Hmmm, I wonder where you latched onto it. (eye-roll)
shareIt continues to amuse me that I hurt your feelings so much that you need to derail random threads whilst crying over the ass whoopings you were fairly dealt you worthless bum
shareJust my opinion. Maybe he should have gotten the death penalty at the time, I don't know. But he didn't. Maybe he should have gotten life without possibility of parole, but he apparently didn't. Is he dangerous at age 80? 85? You are not persuadable, fair enough.
But I'm probably diverting from the OP.
Amen! I agree completely!
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Real talk, finally
Certain crimes are not forgivable...don't commit murder, rape anybody or set fire to a building full of people....Somehow that is confusing for some of the members
Amen!
Don't let those fuckers out to commit more crimes! Besides, they're lucky they weren't executed. Back in the day if you murdered someone, you were executed. And eye for an eye!
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Haha, Shogun, at first, I read your sentence as "Why does the legal system even consider unlocking the gates for these loony BINS?" instead of "birds", lol? Haha.
shareHuh
shareI read "loony bins" instead of "loony birds" but maybe both apply? Remember BIN Laden? He's dead now, its been 10 years since he got killed by US Armed forces by the way.
sharemadness
share2 shogun and others - haha, maybe we should have a line that goes - Don't give Mark David Chapman a chance, as opposed to, Give peace a chance?
And oh yeah, as far as I am concerned, he is not getting out at all, yes?
P.S. Is Mark David Chapman aware of today's technology, including iphones, wi-fi, tablets, WhatsApp etc, does he know 9/11 happened? And other bits of info, including the fact that another "Beatle" George Harrison, dies himself in 2001, after but obviously not as a result of 9/11? Has he been in prison for like 40 YEARS already? Mr Real life Hannibal Lecter, he probably never heard of Hannibal either, has he?
And if you had a chance, you wouldn't say buy Mark David Chapman an iphone and a tablet and teach him how to use or maybe just buy if he DOES get released after say his 13th appeal, rumors say he may be getting out in about 2 years time. Oh and yeah, Mr Chapman, once you DO get out, PLEASE DO NOT kill anyone, thank you. Including any famous celebrities.
share> Is Mark David Chapman aware of today's technology, including iphones, wi-fi, tablets, WhatsApp etc, does he know 9/11 happened? And other bits of info, including the fact that another "Beatle" George Harrison, dies himself in 2001, after but obviously not as a result of 9/11?
Sure. Cell phones are smuggled into prisons all the time. And prisoners generally have indirect access to email -- they can't sit down at a PC and type a message in, they do it at a typewriter and others send the messages for them and print off replies (screening everything, just like with their snail mail). Prison rec rooms have TV sets, and prisoners can have them in their cells.
Why do you think it was an isolated incident to just Chapman alone?
He was extremely publicly popular and he opposed war. The rightist illuminati establishment based in the US that controls the world and points the finger at others for what they do couldn't stand that.
Same reason they had brainwashed manchurian candidates assassinate:
JFK
MLK
Malcolm X (Little)
RFK
Gandhi
JFK Jr. (they feared he was about to run for politics)
Paul Wellstone
Che Guevara
Patrice Lumumba
and others.
Notice they all had those same things in common?
Think of it, except for Malcolm X and a couple others, they had those same things in common: popular, a huge threat to the military industrial complex and opposing of war. Same reason Edward Snowden, Julianne Assange and Bradley Manning are persecuted. Notice they are ALL hated by the right wing the most from the ultra Rich illuminati that pull the strings to the duped broke idiots that support Trump.
Someday people are REALLY going to wake up to these facts and all the conspiracy theories of the right will blow up in their faces. Look they've done this since WWII.
Damn good post... I think entertainers were also on their hit-list. Someone like Jim Morrison, for example.
shareOooh riiight and they only took him out just because they didn't like his lyrics, long hair and what Florida did to him. They fabricated some BS about his watching his band mate's amazing Spanish guitar playing into something it wasn't because conservatives are sick perverted creepshows with dirty minds.
shareChe Guevara was a murderer and megalomaniac.
shareHe was a great man and the only people he executed were people who would be executed anywhere for the crimes they committed.
"I have yet to find a single credible source pointing to a case where Che executed 'an innocent'. Those persons executed by Guevara or on his orders were condemned for the usual crimes punishable by death at times of war or in its aftermath: desertion, treason or crimes such as rape, torture or murder. I should add that my research spanned five years, and included anti-Castro Cubans among the Cuban-American exile community in Miami and elsewhere."
- Jon Lee Anderson, author of the definitive biography of Che Guevara
There is a photo out there of a farmer being read his last rites by a priest just before he was executed by Che's firing squad. It was after a 4 minute trial. His crime? He refused to work for Castro after his farmland was seized by them.
You don't see that guy's face on Tshirts.
Che murdered people. Literally hundreds of people that saw it first hand have escaped and attest to things far more horrifying than your Mr Anderson's "five year mission" would suggest. I wonder how or why he only saw what he did?