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Flying jet packs. Couple of questions about Masters of Horror episode "Cigarette Burns" (2005) by John Carpenter. Is this movie any good, and how do you rank it among Patrick Swayze movies? He directed a "Tales From the Crypt" horror episode in 1989 called "The Switch". Tales From the Crypt Do him and Tony Blair no longer get along after the Iraq war? Was he a good mayor of London in your opinion? Was Ken Livingstone really racist and anti-semitic in his statement that "Hitler supported Zionism"? The original "Fatal Attraction" (1987)? Anyone read the book, by Anthony Burgess? View all posts >


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Speaking of "8MM" (1999), its funny how the actor Norman Reedus, who played the main character here, had a minor role in that movie as a young man with a connection to the possibly dead girl from a possible snuff film that Nicolas Cage's character is hired to investigate, in the same year he was also in Troy Duffy's notorious black comedy vigilante crime caper flick "The Boondock Saints" and in "Cigarette Burns" (the title may also be an odd ode to "Fight Club" (also from 1999!) where Pitt's character says "In the industry we call them cigarette burns" at one point where he is shown working as a theatre projectionist) and in CB he ALMOST takes on the role on Nic Cage's character in "8MM" albeit here he is not a private detective but a desperate film expert. Imprint by Takashi Miike is to date my favorite MOH segment and I give that one 9/10, several others 8 and a few 7 and 6's and maybe one or 2 5's nothing special ones here and there. Cigarette Burns is an 8. That movie or episode is like a Masters of Horror amalgamation of "8MM", "Videodrome", "In the Mouth of Madness" (also by Carpenter) and "The Ninth Gate" with a bit of Japanese (and some slight elements of its Hollywood remake) movie "The Ring" (1998) around it. With some direct references to Dario Argento's "Deep Red" (1975) as well. Holy God, very sorry, I might indeed have, but still... Anyone from the General board familiar with it and can "answer" some of those questions, unless perhaps, in that episode... The characters were somewhat AWARE that it was all supernatural anyway and the whole film perhaps intended to be somewhat metaphorical at times as well, a little bit how in the movie "The Devil's Advocate" (1997), even when all the supernatural horror was happening, people still worried about their conscience and what mistakes they made etc as that movie was also metaphorical too, and there it was a metaphor for sleazy lawyers but here one for cinematic obsession. Also, love it how (in an ironic way), what I wrote above didn't even so much as make some or all folks here take a pause, a deep breath, give it a proper thought (as in, compare it to other forms of cinematic violence including murder of innocents, that this movie ALSO portrays mind you) and focus on appreciating this movie due to its, and it has a plenty plus look at the background of its late director Stanley Kubrick, ARTISTIC qualities and merits. No, let's all immaturely fight and argue with each other and accuse others of perverse personal selfish proclivities like that and swear like immature school bully like kids, very intellectually stimulating, yeah right. Folks, let's just calm down and knock it off PLEASE, thank you. (Dear God, even in 2024, people online still tend to bicker and conflict in less than pleasant ways, God.) What was your question? Even so, let's just get along, alright, in peace please, thank you. WOW, WOW, WOW, FOLKS, COULD WE PLEASE STOP all this highly immature and vulgar arguing like ultra bratty school kids and respect ourselves, our views and each other, and not throw around in confrontation f and s words or even de-facto "troll" accusations please, thank you very much, its unnecessary and does nothing good for anything or anyone. You really like that song, yes? Or maybe just admire the film in general and recognize their presence in a "disturbing art cinema appreciation sort of way", but certainly not actually gaining any pleasure from them and being disturbed of course but appropriately too. Somewhat similar but differently to, perhaps, appreciating films with other forms of violence albeit here understandably with more restraint due to the general also sensitive social nature of such a material. At least we hope so too. Err, we don't "enjoy" such scenes but just because they are depicted and dealt with, doesn't mean we can't admire and watch the movie and we can appreciate it for many of its OTHER qualities too rather than that material. With all due respect, Melton, is it hard to grasp, and on the other side - is that aspect REALLY so hard to ignore without outright explicitly going into, well, that direction and question it all on that side? And how much do you know naturally about human nature and male human nature too including in today's day and age and from that point of view? View all replies >