Female empowerment is going into overdrive now. Its kind of building on Wonder Woman almost Marvels version of WW. Its leading on directly from the biggest MCU & its the film leading into Endgame. The fact its actually got 'Marvel' in the title will help it overseas
I don't see this movie putting up the usual foreign BO that MCU films do. Those films are driven by international stars, not just spectacle. And. It's a girl. And a lot of the world just ain't that progressive.
Wonder Woman did the following: Domestic: $412,563,408 50.2% Foreign: $409,283,604 49.8%
Worldwide: $821,847,012
And Wonder Woman has decades more name recognition than Captain Marvel with Wonder Woman as part of DC's Trinity.
I also think $400 M domestic is a tad too high given that there is no real "Movement" behind CM and neither is CM an "Event" movie even though CM is tied to Avengers:Endgame.
And that is being optimistically high on my part. With that said, if CM is really, really good (which I think it will be) Captain Marvel might inch up a bit just on the strength of the narrative and character arc but not meet the needs of the Superhero - Action fandom.
From what the Director Duo has emphasized the movie is a search for Carol's Humanity which is what defines her and not Hero Worship because she has powers.
$153 OW beats $110
$495 Int beats $475 total, D'OH!! And the final for International is weeks and weeks away.
$???? WW beats $860 WW as CM has only just begun it's run. Congrats to Marvel and CM.
550 domestic? Idk about that. I think it will do very well. I think word of mouth will be huge here. And while some fans are backlashingat Brie's comments, there is no doubt she will play a huge role in End Game. So skipping this film would be bad for continuity sake. I think the fans will pour out to see it~
I kind of have to agree with that. If I didn’t like CM I wouldn’t sit through 2hrs just to see that. Even the Stan Lee cameo was cool but could wait till someone post a clip of it. Lucky I loved the movie so it was worth it.
The last two Avengers had foreign 2X domestic, as did CA:CW.
I'd guess domestic $350m and foreign $700m, as a minimum. Up to $1.5b WW.
Tue update: domestic $400m and foreign $800m, over $1.2b WW.
it's clearly going to opening very strong, but i'm going to say that the rather middling reviews will tamp down the multiplier, though that will be somewhat offset by end game momentum, leaving it with a 2.5 or so.
I had been thinking between 120 to 140 M for the last 2 months....
The last week I settled on 135M.
It now looks like a 150 M+ OW is probably coming...
as far as World Wide...I'm thinking somewhere between 800 to 925M
domestic for me is still unknown...
I got to see the Opening Weekend...
If it comes where I'm expecting at 135 M...then CM is probably heading for a 350 Million domestic total
If it comes in over 150 M...all signs point to 400 M +
no matter its a grandslam already
With a 150 M dollar Budget, A Debuting character thats never been in a major motion picture before, and A character that is "C List" in the comics and A comic book movie with based on a FEMALE Superhero....
theres simply no other word to describe its success than GRANDSLAM...
Hell...I declared and still Declared Wonder Woman a Grandslam...but Captain Marvel is simply on another level...
Wonder Woman is an "A-list" superhero...she was introduced in a Massive Event movie in BvS....and the movie had the advantage of a massive Womens movement getting behind it...
and the results were amazing, a 100 M+...400 M+ domestic and 800 M+ WW...
lol Captain Marvel is about to beat all that despite having none of those advantages...
basically Marvel Studios is about to take A "C List" female character, with no benefit of an Introduction in an Event film and No Massive Women's movement behind it....and Literally OUT-DO DC's Ultimate "A List" female character...
again BOTH are Grandslam...but its clear CM and Marvel Studios are just on another level
You're right, all CM had in the way of a lead-in was that credits scene in Infinity War that most people either missed or didn't understand, whereas Wonder Woman was first introduced in BvS (and was basically the only positive element of that movie).
CM is heading toward a 155 to 160 M OW...something you claimed would not happen...
I have no problem projecting a 400 Million + domestic gross for CM now...
PS...
CM Will beat WW in every possible way now...
Bigger OW
Bigger WW gross
match or exceed its domestic Gross
PSS
Your guarantees of "CM aint No Wonder Woman" which can only mean you were guaranteeing CM would match WW's 103 Million Opening failed on an astonishing level...with CM Murdering WWs by a likely 50 M+
to make matter worse, You added, "CM was looking at AM2 numbers at best" which of course would be a 75 M OW.....even more astonishingly that means you missed by around 85 million on CMs OW
and finally to really seal your grave, Your predictions that "CM would ONLY make 400 M world Wide" or in your exact words "Half of Wonder Woman's total"....is now easily a personal top 5 fail for you....where you'll miss by a stunning 400 to 600 Million...
Ummmm... bill...you do know that WW's domestic total is 411 million, right?
^^
how could I forget...I'll never forget it because You printed in my mind with one of your biggest fails ever...
lol remember when you guaranteed Black Panther wouldnt top WW's 411 domestic gross and then were forced to change your prediction 6 times?
1st it was Black Panther isnt topping WWs 411 M domestically
then it was "BP will be lucky to hit Age of Ultrons 460 M"
Then it was "BP isnt hitting 500 M"
Then It was "BP isnt topping TLJ or Avengers 1"
Then It was "BP isnt hitting 700 M domestic"
finally you literally just admitted you were wrong and left the board...
CM is heading toward a 155 to 160 M OW...something you claimed would not happen...
I have no problem projecting a 400 Million + domestic gross for CM now...
PS...
CM Will beat WW in every possible way now...
Bigger OW
Bigger WW gross
match or exceed its domestic Gross"
Uhhh...bill?
'Ya missed one. LOLOLOLOLOLOL Remember how after you deleted all the other posts you invited me to reread your posts because you never said it was guaranteed to beat WW's domestic? LOLOLOLOLOL...I'm thinking you missed this one because you didn't see the word "guaranteed" and forgot to delete this.
It's a shame. Because of your dishonesty and sudden lack of confidence in CM during it's first week you could have had a nice victory here but remember..."you never said it was guaranteed to beat WW's domestic"?
What a shame...but just desserts for an editing/deleting LIAR.
You Specifically said "I Guaranteed CM to top Wonder Woman domestically"....Then Went back and deleted them....
No where in here does it say "Guarantee"....
In fact this is exactly what I told you I said....
The closest I've ever came to giving an exact prediction for WWs domestic gross, was on its second weekend when I told you I did the Math and 65 Million was the key number...If it makes 65 Million, Then Its on track to top 400 Million domestically...
again....I never edited posts, This is what I wrote and its been like that since I posted it....
Queen, go back and look at what you've accused me of...you were extremely specific when you accused me of Editing posts....You Specifically said "I guaranteed CM to Top WW domestically"....those exact words...
I get that you are deeply embarrassed about being caught in 2 EPIC lies last night....I get that you probably feel deep shame that you didnt just take my advice and admit it, Instead You just had to say "Post Them"....
sure getting caught in The 1 Lie was embarrassing enough, But you made it disastrously worse for yourself by LYING again to try and cover up your 1st Lie....
I get that this is your way of trying to "Get back at me"....but this is just another colossal failure...
You cant just Make things up....You have no proof I edited posts because I never have....
you probably spent an hour looking through my history and couldnt find anything that was close to me even remotely "Guaranteeing CM would Top WW domestically " so you had to hilariously resort to posting something that CONFIRMS I did NOT Guarantee CM to top WW domestically....
from the beginning, I've only ever said "CM is on track to top 400 M domestically".
but I do think theres a grain of Truth to your LIES, I think you are just Mistaken.
I think you are so sure I guaranteed CM to top WW domestically because You remember me posting Many replies "where I guaranteed CM to top WWs total and Opening Weekend"....I went FULL ABUSE MODE on you when CM debuted and all your predictions failed....
I must have replied 50 times Abusing that "CM is now guaranteed to top WW's total gross"
I think you simply saw me "Guarantee" so many times, You may actually truly believe I Guaranteed CM to top WW domestically.
also I think you also are so sure because I did say many times, "CM is going to Kill WW in every way"...
I said this because as I've told you many times, I wasnt entertaining your desperate attempt to change trolling tactics, You trolled for 6 months ONLY on CM's OW and total box office.....You never Mentioned WWs domestic box office in your "Brace for Impact" thread and you never mentioned 1 time until the night CM debuted and you knew all your predictions were going to fail
So when I said "CM is going to Kill WW in every way"....I was referring to Every way YOU Predicted...I didnt care about WW domestic gross because YOU DIDNT CARE.....
You made a bunch of very specific predictions about CM in regards to WW...and CM KILLED WW in every way in regards to your predictions...
other than the fact that YOU have no proof I ever "Specifically Guaranteed CM to top WW domestically"....there a HUGE problem with Your accusation...
Your basically claiming I Guaranteed CM to top WW domestically then edited the post after It became clear CM wasnt going to top WW domestically.
The Grand Canyon sized problem with that is....It NEVER became clear CM wasnt going to top WW domestically....at no point did CM have below average weekend holds that would make Me scared....from the moment CM came out it was on pace to top 400 M+....I know you remember The 65 Million 2nd weekend comments I made....I told you that 65 Million was the KEY number...that if CM made 65 Million in its second weekend, It was on pace to top 400 Million +
There was never any point in CM run that it ever fell off The 400 M + pace..If I really did EDIT posts, there would need to be a reason for me to do it....CM never slowed down...It never had any moment that would cause me or anyone to think "Oh Man, This isnt gonna hit 400 M+"
this all comes down to Specifically what you accused me of....I talked about CM topping 400 M+....I told you CM could match or exceed WWs domestic gross, I talked Numbers with you, I said many times at many different points "CM is on pace for a 400 M+ domestic gross"
But I never at any point "guaranteed CM to top WW domestically" like you are Specifically accusing me of ....I certainly havent Edited posts...
and This EPIC fail only confirms that...The best you could find was me saying " I have no problem projecting a 400 Million + domestic gross for CM now"
as much as you "Huff and Puff"...."Projecting" Will never Mean "Guarantee"...(lol see what I did there, remember when you said to me "as much and you huff and puff CM Will never top WW domestically"...*WINK*)
All in all this was a Horrifically failed attempt to deal with the anger and embarrassment of getting caught in 2 intentional LIES Last Night...
On a scale from 1 to 10...how much do you regret saying "Post them"
also....be honest, was I right?
did you just believe the pages couldnt be pulled back up? is that why you felt confident enough to Make up a LIE and claim bo.coms 1st forecast was 540 Million...
I got to believe you just wrongly assumed the older forecasts couldnt be pulled back up so you thought it was safe to LIE...
I mean you had to have thought to yourself before posting the LIE...."Bill brown hates me, He's probably gonna check on this"
therefor I must assume you just really believed I couldnt pull the page up...
lol if you want you can PM me the answer...I promise I wont share what you say...
This was a post you didn't edit or delete. You clearly say here "it will beat WW IN EVERY WAY ...IT WILL MATCH OR BEAT WW's DOMESTIC BOX OFFICE."
You missed this one because it didn't have the word "guarantee" to catch your eye.
There was a definite change and backtracking and editing when you saw CM IMMEDIATELY having lower weekday grosses than WW even though it opened 50 million HIGHER that weekend.
You definitely had an "Oh Shiit" moment and made the changes.
Like I said...I KNOW you are kicking yourself now for backtracking.