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New teaser released ¿im the only one who is thinking they're gonna say Neo was never a white dude but a black one?


That is the vibe im receiving for this new teaser pay attention to it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kUz_qYrOng

I know the movie is going to be PC and anti patriarchy and anti whiteness somehow, but at what level and if is going to be to a point it would ruin the movie or even the trilogy, that is something is still to be seeing

I just hope they keep the shit to a minimum and focuss in good sci-fi and action and storytelling if they choose to say Zion was a Matrix inside the Matrix only to change the story and tell us Neo was really a black dude or a trans woman who choose to see himself as a white dude in the simulation because; whiteness of the system, patriarchy and stuff i dont even going to watch the fucking thing

The first intention was show Switch as a woman in the real world and a men in the Matrix or viceversa, from there was the name Switch, they forget that idea because the producers tought it would be confussing

The pennis sister always have had that concept in mind

I just hope to be wrong

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The trailer looks a lot better, feels like the firs installment in a new trilogy, maybe this movie is about get Neo out of the Matrix, him waking up and all that

Looks pretty cool, visually is beautiful like the original trilogy

Im more hopeful now

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I know the movie is going to be PC and anti patriarchy and anti whiteness somehow

well, if you're determined to think that no doubt you'll find excuses to complain that its 'woke'

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That is not true i normally deal with level of wokeness in movies and TV shows without problems, the issue is when they change things or add things that bring nothing but wokeness

I was very clear in my original post, always they dont ruin the movie with it im ok with some level of wokeness. Im not going to let some small things ruin a good movie for me

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go play wolfenstein then lol duh

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It looks like it.

It seems Matrix 4 has gone the woke way. The good guys will be diverse and, let me make a prediction: the evil agents will remain white dudes.

It's not like the original Matrix didn't have checkboxes. All the evil guys were white dudes, while Neo was the only western white guy in the 'good guys' group. But it looks like this one, not even Neo. All good guys will be diversity hires.

A pity. It could have been interesting.

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Have you watched the entire trilogy with 2021 eyes yet?

The Matrix:
All the evil agents are exclusively white males, as you noticed.
The mentor is a black dude.
The Oracle, the only good program, is a black lady.
The white guy in the crew is a dork.
The other white guy is a traitor.
The natural born guys are blacks.
The guy who saves the day killing the traitor is black.
The hero should've been black, but since Will Smith rejected the movie, they went for a half white, which means he's not white.
The heroine is white and follows the orders of non-whites and falls for a non white.
That other guy in the crew wasn't white.
The only other white chick was trans.
The final monolog is all about no borders and everything is possible. Very 2020s.

The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions:
The Architect is a white old man focused on data, facts and logic: the evil Patriarchy.
The Oracle is a black woman who operates on compassion, feelings and respect for humans.
Seraph (good) is not white.
The Keymaker (good) is not white.
The Twins (evil) are white dudes.
The Merovingian (evil) is a white dude who treats his wife like crap.
The guy who operates the train (evil) is a white dude.
The two programs who care about their daughter (good) are not white.
Bane (evil) is a white dude.
The white ship captain is an a-hole and incompetent to boot.
The best ship pilot is a black lady.
The best fighters during the siege of Zion are non whites.

Also:
for some reason the machines care about diversity and instead of cultivating crops of clones, they kept all the different races and both sexes alive and even identify themselves with said races and sexes.



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What is the point of all your boxes? Most of us don't care.

So, since you are ticking boxes, but not caring that of the top 20 grossing films of 1999, only 1, Wild Wild West, didn't have a white lead. I am counting Adam Sandler as white. Only 1, Blair Witch, had a female lead. Runaway Bride, Notting Hill, and Shakespeare in Love were dual leads with a white male and a white female. Why is it woke to see movies that represent the world? Most places are pretty diverse.

2020 top 10 has 4 movies where a white male is the lead. If a white male is the lead can a white male be the evil guy? I'm asking because of Sonic.

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This. In droves. Why should the Matrix 4 be considered 'woke' when the previous movies show the same diversity?

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If I have to judge on the basis of my experience, people back then wasn't bombarded by woke propaganda, so they didn't notice any of that stuff. They just watched an original and groundbreaking movie, followed by admittedly subpar sequels, and ejoyed it for what it was. I did. The majority doesen't rewatch movies, so they have basically only good memories of what was actually a crap filled woke show way ahead of its times in preaching progressive ideas.

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> since Will Smith rejected the movie, they went for a half white, which means he's not white.

Technically true, but good luck finding people out in the world who see Reeves as anything but white.

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Just to add some trivia here; Brandon Lee was the first actor they considered to play Neo

So if it wasen't for his tragic death maybe Lee would have been a major star now

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I haven't watched the second and third ones in years. Holy shit.

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IKR? Also, The Matrix is now clearly a metaphor for transexuality, as the directors admitted. What's funny is that I didn't notice nor care back when the movies came out. It's the constant push toward wokeism of the last few years that opened my eyes.

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None of that means it was woke. People still confuse being "woke" with being "diverse". Movies, tv shows, games, etc have all been diverse long before the woke movement took off in the last several years.

The difference between "woke" and "diverse" is that wokists go out of their way to make a certain group of people look bad out of some misguided, hateful agenda, usually via in-your-face messages and themes. The Matrix didn't do that, Terminator didn't do that, Alien didn't do that, Lord of the Rings didn't do that, Star Wars pre-Disney didn't do that, and so on.
Yes, it The Matrix movies had a diverse cast; yes, many of the bad-guys were white and many of the good guys were not white, but there was no hidden motive behind that, no forced agenda or anything. Wokeness in media didn't really take off till the 2010s, and exploded at around 2015-2016.

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Given the directors you literally cannot expect anything else ...

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Exactly we know we are going to have wokeness at some level, we have to be very naive to expect otherwise

I just hope is not going to be to a point that would ruin the movie or even the trilogy, changing his mythos like saying everything in the orginal trilogy is a lie and Neo was a woman all along and make all the story some kind of trans allegory or something similar

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YOU SOUND LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT,BLATHERING ON AND ON ABOUT WOKENESS...NOT ONE WORD YOU TYPE MAKES ANY SENSE TO ANYONE BUT YOU AND 12 OTHER ASSHATS LURKING IN FART SCENTED SHADOWS.

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LOL is you again, is always good to read you men, you always make me laugh i dont know why, maybe is the level of cuckness in every sentence you type or just the fact you always write in capital letters like an angry syphilitic who just have suffer an stroke

In a total serious note you dont understand me because you lack the normal level of testosterone necessary to understand common sense (wich make you like a woman, and we all know are histerycal and extreme emotional and for that reason should never be allow in important jobs) or is because of my grammar? i trying to do better and i want people understand what i wrote, because let's be honest everything i wrote is highly important and is a message that need to be read, discussed and studied

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YIKES

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Classic fag anwser

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GROW UP.

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Say the dude how insult hysterically without any provocation

LURKING IN FART SCENTED SHADOWS.


That was good, really make me laugh, im going to use it maybe here maybe in some other forum

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YOUR HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE..."FAG","RETARD","CUCKNESS" AND DEROGATORY COMMENTS ABOUT WOMEN IN GENERAL.🤔

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Im a real dude, i like to keep it real men, nothing of that hypersensibilitie crap, is not my fault if someone is a retard fag or a cuck retard or a woman i just tell it how it is, dont hate the messenger men

If you choose to become gay, you can't blame nobody, because nobody force you

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SO...YOU'RE PROBABLY DUE TO HIT PUBERTY SOON,HUH?

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Excuse me sir, did i put a pistol in your head to take a dick in the ass? NO!! right? so if you or anybody else do such thing is under your own doing, you cant blame people if you do fag stuff

Im a grandfather of two beatiful girls they are soldier and have fought for this nation, but they know that in the house they cannot speak without asking permission, look the taliban maybe they have a weird ass fetish of wearing sandals and long skirts, and of course that stupid ass cult they follow but at least they have the way to how treat woman right

There they are in the kitchen and only can talk to ask when to clean

Here the army start to made those stupid inclusive adds with the lesbian mom and less than 2 years later the entire army run away from a bunch of iliterate's ahmed who can't put together an ikea table without chop off their own balls

Including dykes (even if they are bull dykes) and fags in the army is not the way to assert your streng to the enemy in any case is the most quick road to have an ahmed in your house wearing only sandals with a belt in his hand while screaming to your daugther "Makenik el matbakh"

But tarts and skanks dont have enough brain cells to understand that, they are all in for inclusion and tolerance

BTW cucks are equally dangerous for the national security im an open minded and tolerant person i think we have the obligation of tolerate their existence, always they keep their weird sexual behaviour in private, but that doesnt mean they should vote or defend the nation

Tarts, skanks, dykes, fags and cucks are going to be the doom of occidental civilization, mark my words

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You're a huge fucking retard

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Why so angry? ae you boyfriend of the other faggot?

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Yes

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You are forgetting Morpheus believed Neo was the reincarnation of a previous One; the one who freed them. The Matrix has always hinted at reincarnation. Woke? No. Reincarnation. That goes back to the first movie:

"When the Matrix was first built, there was a man born inside who had the ability to change whatever he wanted, to remake the Matrix as he saw fit. It was he who freed the first of us, taught us the truth. As long as the Matrix exists the human race will never be free. After he died, the Oracle prophesized his return and that his coming would hail the destruction of the Matrix, end the war, bring freedom to our people. That is why there are those of us who have spent our entire lives searching the Matrix looking for him. I did what I did because I believe that search is over."

That's if they are even plying the same character.

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Well the third movie is unnecesary complicated and are so many theories about his true meaning but the architect say the prophecy is a lie, everything is a lie created by the machines as other form of control

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Are you sure you answered the right comment? I quoted the ORIGINAL and you're talking about the 3rd.

I thought the 3rd movie saved the 2nd one tbh. Talk about unnecessarily complicated.

The prophecy doesn't have to be true, we know there's been 5 or 6 Ones. The One code finds itself into a new individual every couple of generations. It's almost like....reincarnation.

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While it might make sense in the movies' mythos, it would be really hard to believe that such a change didn't come at the behest of the directors' politics and/or hollywood Woke Stasi.

I enjoyed the original movies as a teenager because they were good sci-fi (basically a stylish cyberpunk "I, Robot" if you ignore the humans as batteries BS), and good action with groundbreaking special effects at the time.

I'd always viewed the depiction of the architect and agents in particular as more "oppressive government bad" and not "whites bad", but it's a little harder to enjoy the movies now that I'm more aware of the messaging the directors really intended.

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They also ruined the trilogy by retconning the first film and saying it's a "trans metaphor."

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I don't know about all that, but man, they should have tied this into John Wick. It was there for the taking! John Wick was also a program.

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"The first intention was show Switch as a woman in the real world and a men in the Matrix "

That was the original idea of 'Switch' - that way, the name would make sense. However, I don't think it was "men", as she/he wouldn't be MULTIPLE men. She would switch between female and male - male in the real world, female in The Matrix, or vice versa.

This is an interesting idea - NOT because of some 'transsexuality'-insanity, but because of its VERY deep and expanded implications; if you can be 'different' than your physical body in The Matrix, how much can you customize iT? Can you choose a different 'avatar' any and every time you visit The Matrix, so you could be a constantly color-changing, half-transparent bunny elf if you wanted to one time, and a shapeshifter the next time, etc.

Even if you're 'locked' to one avatar (which should never be the case, because why would it?), and they got the 'digital projection of your mental self' line correct (it's stupidly reversed in the movie), it's still interesting to think about, because how would, let's say 'dark-skinned man' know he's a dark-skinned man, if they have never opened their physical eyes, much less looked in a mirror..?

The machines would know, but maybe they wouldn't always program it that way (why would they care what their BATTERIES think anyway, let alone go out of their way to make sure something that absolutely doesn't need to match, would match?), etc. And even they would only know because of the physical side.

This also begs the question, why would they even let 'races' exist? Wouldn't they just choose ONE race for simplicity and efficiency and make everyone that? If gender is not required for reproduction (after all, humans are 'grown', not 'born'), and people don't see their physical bodies, wouldn't they just make ONE gender, ONE body, make everyone 100% identical (or as much as possible), because why would their BATTERIES need to be different anyway?

Of course they should use COWS or something.

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The whole 'battery'-thing is just so stupid, even if human beings WERE efficient batteries. There's still no need to create a complicated simulation for your batteries, when you can just use cockroaches, cows, plants, or whatnot. Also, if you can 'grow humans', why can't you grow plants, and if you can grow plants without sunlight, then why couldn't the machines also live without sunlight? If they can create enough energy for human beings to live, why can't they create enough energy for themselves to live? It's like.. the more you think about this, the less anything makes sense.

Anyway, the 'Switch'-thing may have been inspired by some kind of lunatic 'transsexuality' crap, but the implications WOULD actually be really interesting - the 'avatar' being, or at least POSSIBLY being completely different than the physical body, is so close to reality anyway (after all, soul has no gender, and is pure energy, and a physical body is always a temporary thing, and the same soul can (and does) exist in different physical bodies during the eternity, in different incarnations)..

In any case, the whole 'trans allegory' is also very stupid, a 'karma/spirituality allegory' would make much more sense.

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The battery thing is stupid but wasent fault of the Wachowsky but of the producers the oriignal idea was that human brains would use as a form of ram memory necessary for the machines world or something similar i dont remember the producers tought maybe with good reason that would confusse the audience so they choose for this explanation

Im ok with Andy Wachowsky thinking in the movie as a trans allegory this is one of those movies everybody see as an alegory to something personal is logical a trans person would see as an allegory to change to become something else

Some people say that ruin the movies for them, that's not my case really, besides movies sometimes evolve beyond the original intentions of their creators if his intentions were create a trans allegory that doesnt mean they really create a trans allegory, if for you is a spirituality allegory that is what it is

For me is more an allegory about opression from a system of rules wich can come from goberment, family or system education and the rebellion against such opression

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Anyway, the 'Switch'-thing may have been inspired by some kind of lunatic 'transsexuality' crap, but the implications WOULD actually be really interesting

I don't think so. Your brain is still in your physical body. Matrix is just an hyper-realist videogame. You can use a female avatar, sure, so you can feel like having a couple of realist boobs... but that's all. It's a character in an hyper-realist FPV videogame, and playing a female character doesn't make you a female.

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