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ABBA sang their songs phonically. They could speak about as much English as the Swedish Chef.

Hitler farted constantly.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/adolf-hitler-had-a-pungent-medical-condition/ar-AAZ78MT?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=0a470d8e54ab48d9c2ceffb1b6f455b9

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a killer whale has never been known to have killed a human in the wild.

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Cotton candy was invented by a dentist.

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That bastard was just trying to drum up business 😄

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The human race has come dangerously close to going extinct. 75,000 years ago the Toba supervolcano eruption reduced the world's human population to as low as less than 10,000 people.

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How do we know what the population was so long ago? Is this another "computer model" truth?

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I have no idea how they arrived at that figure but you can read a little more about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toba_catastrophe_theory

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I'm guessing you can do a calculation based on the diversity of the genes we carry now.

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Wow. I had no idea about that!

The traffic and parking were probably pretty sweet back then though.

Sorry everybody died but us Fellas need to earn a few bucks at the job everyday…the less assholes on the road the better!

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I'm sure Twitter and the internet in general was less toxic too with so few people on the planet. Moviechat must have had zero trolls back then.

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Stop signs were originally yellow.
Some cats are allergic to humans.

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Seriously cats can be allergic to humans? Crazy… lol

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The correct name for a muffler that's used on a firearm is "silencer," not "suppressor" as many people who falsely consider themselves to be "in the know" would have you believe.

The correct spelling of the affirmative word you use in oral voting which rhymes with "day" is "yea," (as in, "yea or nay") not "yay," which is a slang term that e.g., kids might say when they get ice cream.

Using "literally" to mean "figuratively" is not an incorrect usage of the term, despite what many people who falsely consider themselves to be "in the know" would have you believe.

American English spellings are generally closer to Middle English than modern British English spellings are. Many people who falsely consider themselves to be "in the know" believe that Americans changed the spellings of words like "honour," "colour," etc., but in reality it was the Brits who added a superfluous "u" to various words in the 19th century during a period when French or French-looking things were considered fashionable over there.

"Aluminum" (American spelling) is the spelling that the guy who first isolated it (Sir Humphry Davy, a Brit) finally decided upon. The British spelling arose because some different Brits who had nothing whatsoever to do with isolating aluminum, in pompous fashion, took it upon themselves to rename it to "aluminium," even though they logically had no naming rights whatsoever, based on the misguided notion that it would make the spelling consistent with other elements (evidently they'd never heard of molybdenum, lanthanum, tantalum, or platinum).

It's impossible to define the term "assault weapon" in a way that makes sense, i.e., no matter how you try to define it, anyone who knows guns can poke logical holes in the definition.

The term "assault rifle," on the other hand, has a valid definition, but because full-auto capability is part of the definition, you can't legally get one unless it was registered with the ATF prior to a certain day in 1986, and unless you pass an extensive federal background check which may take a year or more, and unless you have new-car-type money to blow on one gun purchase, plus the $200 extortion fee that you have to pay to the ATF.

There is no known instance of anyone ever being electrocuted (killed) from working on a CRT TV/monitor.

No one has convincingly faked a Maine accent in a TV show or movie; not once, not ever.

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but in reality it was the Brits who added a superfluous "u" to various words in the 19th century during a period when French or French-looking things were considered fashionable over there..


Nope. Shakespeare used 'colour' 74 times and 'color' only once. I think you probably know enough to know Shakespeare predates any 19th century fashions.

You're getting a couple of things confused here, I think. There's a theory that American English pronunciation may be closer to middle English than is British English. American spelling is not.

What actually happened is two different attempts to standardise the spelling of English. Until people started writing dictionaries, spelling in English was inconsistent.

The British attempts to standardise English spelling came earlier than the American attempt. Indeed, there was enough time between the two attempts for a campaign to begin among English scholars to de-Frenchify the language, but it never caught on.

When writing his own dictionary, Mr Webster quite deliberately 'de-Frenchified' the language to distinguish American English from British English. That was largely the point of the exercise -- to differentiate Americans from the vanquished British.

Those 'French' spellings are old, because English emerged as a mixture of French and Anglo-Saxon, thanks to the Norman invasion. And the French influence is stronger in British English than American English, partly due to linguistic history and partly because the French live just next door to us... That's why you lot go to a movie theater and I go to a cinema.

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"Nope. Shakespeare used 'colour' 74 times and 'color' only once. I think you probably know enough to know Shakespeare predates any 19th century fashions."

18th and 19th century fashions resulted in "colour," etc., being made "official," i.e., it was spelled that way in their early dictionaries, Samuel Johnson's dictionary may have been the first to do so. Before the idea of dictionaries being an authority for "official" spellings caught on, it was spelled both ways, and if you go back far enough into Middle English it was just spelled "color," because it comes from the Latin word "color." See here:

https://i.imgur.com/hJ0Coxv.png

"You're getting a couple of things confused here, I think. There's a theory that American English pronunciation may be closer to middle English than is British English. American spelling is not."

American spelling is closer to Middle English than current British spelling is, as I already said.

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if you go back far enough into Middle English it was just spelled "color,"


Extract from Sir Gaiwain & The Green Knight:

Ho watz þe fayrest in felle, of flesche and of lyre, / And of compas and colour and costes, of alle oþer, / And wener þen Wenore, as þe wyȝe þoȝt. / ...
• ... Of þe grene chapel, quere hit on grounde stondez, / And of þe knyȝt þat hit kepes, of colour of grene. / Þer watz stabled bi statut a steuen vus bytwene / To mete þat mon at þat mere / ... [My emphasis]


From Chaucer:

And fressher than the may with floures newe -- / For with the rose colour stroof hire hewe, / I noot which was the fyner of hem two


And with that word he caughte a greet mirour, / And saugh that chaunged was al his colour, / And saugh his visage al in another kynde. / And right anon it / ...
• ...ce yset, / This arcite and this palamon ben met. / Tho chaungen gan the colour in hir face, / Right as the hunters in the regne of trace

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The start of the Middle English period dates back a couple centuries before either of your citations. Do you really think a "u" was added to "color" instantly when it was borrowed from Latin?

I already said there was a time when both spellings were used, sometimes even by the same person (as in your Shakespeare example).

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If I may return you to your initial 'fact':

in reality it was the Brits who added a superfluous "u" to various words in the 19th century


I think we can both agree this has been amply demonstrated to be false.

British English spellings are older than that. The reasons for American English spelling standardisation being different to that of British spelling standardisation are the ones I have previously given.

We both agree that prior to standardisation, both spellings -- and indeed others -- were in use even within the same texts. You do surely understand why that's a different claim from the one you initially proffered and which I corrected?

In any case, I don't think we should fill up this thread with any more of this. In the vanishingly unlikely event of anyone else being interested in the subject, they don't need to take my word for it; they can look it up. The facts are readily available.

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And I'll return you to where your confusion about what I was talking about should have been cleared up:

18th and 19th century fashions resulted in "colour," etc., being made "official," i.e., it was spelled that way in their early dictionaries, Samuel Johnson's dictionary may have been the first to do so.


In other words, I wasn't talking about when people first started spelling it with a "u," I was talking about when "colour" came to be viewed as the correct/only way of spelling it. That happened at some point in the 18th or early 19th century due to dictionaries becoming generally accepted as authoritative, and in which "color" was spelled "colour."

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American English spellings are generally closer to Middle English than modern British English spellings are. Many people who falsely consider themselves to be "in the know" believe that Americans changed the spellings of words like "honour," "colour," etc., but in reality it was the Brits who added a superfluous "u" to various words in the 19th century during a period when French or French-looking things were considered fashionable over there.


This was the post I originally responded to. I wasn't confused about it. I simply knew it was false. I haven't taken any issue with '18th and 19th century fashions resulted in "colour," etc., being made "official', which is why I haven't responded to it. It was this part -- 'in reality it was the Brits who added a superfluous "u" to various words in the 19th century during a period' -- that I took issue with.

The British standardised their spellings. And the Americans standardised theirs in opposition to the British standardisation. It would be correct to say the British chose the French spellings over the alternatives already in use. It is wrong to say they 'added' anything during standardisation.

But this is all a bit dry and you're starting to go around in needless circles now, so have a good rest of your evening.

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"This was the post I originally responded to. I wasn't confused about it."

Yes, you clearly were.

"I simply knew it was false."

It wasn't false.

"I haven't taken any issue with '18th and 19th century fashions resulted in "colour," etc., being made "official', which is why I haven't responded to it."

Yes, you have, since that's what I was talking about in the first place.

"It was this part -- 'in reality it was the Brits who added a superfluous "u" to various words in the 19th century during a period' -- that I took issue with."

Which was referring to the time period in which it became "official." Before that, Brits as a whole hadn't added a "u" to the original "color" spelling of the word. Some Brits did, some Brits didn't, and there was ongoing debate over which spelling was "correct."

"It is wrong to say they 'added' anything during standardisation."

"Added" is relative to the original spelling of the word, which is "color." As I said, some Brits added the "u" fairly early on during the Middle English period, and some Brits didn't. Brits as a whole added the "u" when "colour" became the "official" British English spelling.

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Yes, spelling was inconsistent in Shakespear's time, so much so that I've heard he spelled his name about 10 different ways!

Seriously, that's what I heard, that all the known Shakespear signatures are spelled differently.

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Yeah, although most of his surviving six signatures are different abbreviations of different spellings, just to complicate matters further.

Apparently (I just googled this. I didn't have it in my head), there are 80 different spellings of his name in the historical records. I like Shaxberd. We should have gone with Shaxberd.

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Despite the popular ads by Paul Hogan in the 80's, Aussie's don't drink Foster's beer nor do we put "shrimp" on the barbie, let alone say "shrimp".

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The man who helped invent the toilet is Thomas Crapper.

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That’s a load of crap!

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Well, the condom was invented by Charles Condom.

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The term Incel was coined by a woman because of her lack of success in dating.

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