What happened to Covid-19?
Where did it go?
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People got vaccinated, and we developed herd immunity. Plus it was never really as bad as the Lefty Loons
pretended it was.
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aw, those crazy lefty loons , getting all panicky and developing vaccines and wearing masks and all that crazy shit.
I guess we have them to thank for the herd immunity really,
cos it sure as shit wasnt the extremely vocal anti mask ,anti vaxx freedum patriots inthe publican party was it?
I didn't say it wasn't real or wasn't serious, Bubba. I dutifully wore my mask, and got vaccinated.
But I'm sure the Lefty Loons exaggerated the numbers to harm President Trump, and to prepare for voter fraud with mail in ballots and ballot harvesting. The Left will do ANYTHING to achieve and/or hold POWER. And harming Trump is their ultimate goal.
We know lots of folks died WITH covid, but not necessarily FROM covid. If a guy died in a motorcycle accident, and he had covid, he was listed as a covid death. This is because hospitals were given lots of money for every case reported, so there was obviously fraud. We will never know how many deaths covid ACTUALLY caused.
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You say such things, because like every basement-dwelling sociopath, you're completely detached from other human beings. A family friend died from it in March 2020, and he was as healthy as a horse. Me, my mother and father caught it in December 2020.
My father died of it on December 31st.
The labor shortage--which the MSM keeps saying is due to people quitting--is most likely because the number of COVID deaths were a lot higher than everyone is reporting. They're saying something like 500,000 Americans. I'm positive that it's something like 1.2 million. I knew that even before NPR started guesstimating how many people "really" died: https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2021/05/06/994287048/new-study-estimates-more-than-900-000-people-have-died-of-covid-19-in-u-s. The reason why I say it's that high is that besides my family and friends of the family catching it, I met too many other people who knew someone who had either been hospitalized from it or died from it.
Deaths notwithstanding, even the survivors aren't getting away scot-free. Many of them are developing large numbers of physiological and neurological disorders in recovery. I can attest to this, because two family friends caught it during the Second Wave. One is in physical therapy and the other suffers from muscle pain.
BTW, I had to deal assholes like you telling me all the time that COVID wasn't real. Even though I was grieving, it was with relish that I would casually let drop that my father died of it in December. You'd just see this, "OH, SHIT!" look of panic and mortification flicker in their eyes for a brief second and then all the winds get taken out of their sails, and then the cockiness disappear.
"They're saying something like 500,000 Americans."
The official count is now over 600,000. We reached that mark in June 2021.
Thank you. I had remembered it being somewhere around 600K but for some reason, so many searches said 500K so I assumed that maybe the official count had been corrected at some point. In any event, I'm positive that it was over 1M.
shareYou're welcome. And I agree the number is a lot higher than we are being told.
shareActually less. Hospitals have been reporting Covid deaths under the blanket of "co-morbidity." For instance: a bloke dies in a brutal car crash and they discover that he had the Wuhan. they add his death to the toll. Same with tons of other deaths like heart attacks, strokes, and even suicides. The reason is that they get govt $ for each case they deal with. So sorry to let a bit of air out of your crusade but the number is overinflated.
I'm no anti-vax'er. I just want truth. A thing seldom proffered from politicians (whom seem to be the nu-christ of the politicized hoi-paloi). I feel bad for anyone who has a death close to them, regardless of the cause. That doesn't mean that we are not allowed to scrutinize the data around a virus. Seems that everything must be believed lest you be a "evil republican" or "mean and uncaring!!!1!1" or something.
When people died from the flu 5 years ago, did people seethe with righteous anger toward the populace for not wearing a mask or getting the flu shot? Nope. It's a new era of grievance, entitlement, and victimhood.
Where is any sort of proof that hospitals were getting more money to report Covid deaths?
https://fox11online.com/news/fox-11-investigates/fact-check-how-are-covid-19-deaths-counted-do-hospitals-get-money-for-covid-19-deaths
Hospital financial department heads, nurses, etc coming forward and blowing the whistle.
shareWhere? I can't find anything on that. Death rate world wide is pretty much 2%, which is what they said from the start. Percentage in the US is around 1.8%. Canada's is slightly higher at 1.85% and our medical system runs very differently from yours.
shareI've read interviews and heard similar accounts. Debatable for sure as in all cases of personal accounts (unless it is about rape, right?). The co-morbidity reports are a matter of record though and not just hear-say. So the reasons may not be financial but the numbers are overinflated (not by a huge % but significant). If not for money then why?
shareYou lost me bringing in rape. Not related. I'm done.
shareAs I was typing it occurred to me that Cosby is considered guilty by the pure volume of accusers. I admit that I think he is guilty but it is a double standard I cannot ignore. Lots of people claiming something does not constitute proof ... except when it does. Like in the case of extremely sensitive issues like ... like that word.
So we believe what we want to and seek the information that supports our predisposition. And sometimes hide behind outrage.
Amen!
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just look at the excess deaths, rocker.
covid is almost certainly under-reported.
"Between March 1, 2020, and January 2, 2021, the US experienced 2 801 439 deaths, 22.9% more than expected, representing 522 368 excess deaths (Table)."
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2778361
to that point, according to the worldometer tracking page, the us had reported 375k covid deaths.
so there are about 150k deaths above normal in the us over and above those attributed to covid.
a large proportion of those are almost certainly covid caused.
some might be upticks in suicide and deaths due to lack of hospital resources. but not 150k.
Hospitals have been reporting Covid deaths under the blanket of "co-morbidity." For instance: a bloke dies in a brutal car crash and they discover that he had the Wuhan. they add his death to the toll.
It's always the SHITHEADS who have NO AFFILIATION WHATSOEVER with any hospital that KNOW what hospitals were doing. My sister was a healthcare worker in a hospital that actually became news when workers started getting sick and/or dying from COVID, due to lack of equipment. The hall adjacent to the nursing home wing was stacked with bodies.
I didn't hear her talking about "co-morbidity," and yet she worked with patients, doctors, nurses throughout the peak of the pandemic, so what are you even talking about?
And you used the term, "bloke." Clearly I was talking about deaths in the United States. You're not from America, so STFU. share
I'm a shithead from America who has a sister, a niece, and a nephew that are nurses (one a radiologist). I also visited an emergency room right in the middle of the crisis to take my father in for a stroke he had. Saw half the nurses not wearing masks and talked to a few nurses and doctors. The place looked nothing like what was being reported (reported about that hospital specifically).
Co-morbidity reporting is a very real thing. I'm sorry for your loses and don't mean to diminish their gravity. Lose is lose. I'm sorry. But tragedy doesn't mean just going along with some narrative that doesn't fit all the data. It has to be OK to scrutinize the data even if it does not feel nice.
You're a nice poster so it is uncomfortable to rile you thus. But I cannot avoid information because someone who lost family says "I lost people I love so the big picture is how I say!" Again, I'm sorry, but I am not saying it isn't deadly. What I am saying is it is in some territory significantly below what is being reported and how it is being reacted to. Your perspective is understandably biased and perhaps less receptive to contrary evidence. I get it. May you find peace of mind and heart.
Not to mention the 2.5 million people from the rest of world who this killed.
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I didn't say it wasn't real or wasn't bad, I said I don't believe it was as bad as the Left painted it, snowflake.
They exaggerated its severity to damage President Trump, to punish people in red states, and to make voter
fraud possible. Their motives were political.
And if you don't realize this, you're either naïve or ignorant or both.
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Yeah now we are headed towards a mental health crisis. This was no accident.
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No reason to be so hostile, dude. I have friends and family who had it, but did not die.
Sorry to hear about your Dad, but I suspect the death stats have been overestimated because hospitals get money for reporting "covid deaths." I suspect that many, if not most of the deaths were people with covid, not because of covid.
There no way to know for sure.
It was also an excuse for Democrats to illegally lock down populations and help steal elections.
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We're discussing COVID-19, not stupid politics.
BTW- for every "lefty loon" there is a conservative kook to even things out.
"for every "lefty loon" there is a conservative kook to even things out."
This^
In fairness, there are few real liberals and conservatives left, at least in American politics.
Instead we have goose steppers who mindlessly follow two ideologies that are more aligned to the same goals than their worshippers would like to admit. Sadly these goals aren't going to help bolster the middle class and poor peons.
COVID-19 is politics, nothing else
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