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Mysterio being a villain was a twist???


One of Spider-Man’s most famous villains from the comics since the 1960s being a villain in this film was played as if it were a genuine plot twist.

I can only assume that Marvel Studios:

- thinks that the majority of the film fans haven’t read the comics

- thinks it’s audience is dumb

- simply doesn’t care and has no interest in conventionally surprisingly storytelling anymore because they know the film will make money, regardless of quality.

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Yeah I agree that’s why I was hoping they either made him a good guy or actually have him win in the end.

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It wasn't meant to be "a twist." It was meant to be Mysterio's plan-- try to trick the world into thinking he's a hero to gain access to Stark's weapon systems.

But... you knew that already. You're trolling, as per the usual. :)

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You just described “character motivation”.

When a superhero is revealed to be a supervillain after a substantial amount of a film’s running time has passed, that is a “plot twist”.

In this case, a totally transparent one.

Unless you’re saying that it was intended to be obvious that Mysterio was a villain from his very first appearance in the film?

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Oh, it was meant to be a twist. I "spoiled" the twist to many people on Facebook and also to my alliance in a mobile phone game I play the moment people started posting on Twitter from early screenings that Mysterio was the movie's main villain. I got a lot of backlash for that. Half my alliance members hate me now for spoiling the twist and had requested to the leader and officers to kick me from the alliance, and a lot of people said on Facebook when replying to my comment that they can't see the movie now because I spoiled the movie for them by simply confirming that Mysterio was/is the main villain of Far From Home. There were a lot of people convinced that Mysterio WAS from another universe and the version of Mysterio that came from another universe was a good guy. You try telling them that Mysterio is one of Spider-Man's well known villains and you'd get "no, no, no, the trailers and TV spots said he is a good guy, so this version of Mysterio is a good guy. No way is a bad guy. He can't be. Not possible." But all I spoiled was Mysterio was the main villain. Never went into detail about him being someone that worked for Tony Stark and got fired and helped create BARF and all that. From people on Facebook, I received TONS of death threats both in comment section replies and private messages through Messenger, and I was called all kinds of names. So a lot of people were convinced Mysterio was a good guy and WOULD be a good guy through the entire movie and that the actual villain version of Mysterio would either be revealed in the movie during the final battle, or maybe in Spider-Man 3 or some other MCU movie that Spider-Man pops up in.

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If Quinten Beck worked for Tony Stark, how didn’t Shield have a file on him?

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Who's to say? Maybe that isn't his real name? Or, maybe in the chaos following Thanos' victory, and/or Stark's death, he found a way to delete or alter his file? Or, maybe he explained that he is the Quinten Beck from a different realm and not the Quinten Beck of our Earth? Or some other way?

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Well they made the skrulls the good guys so? i dont think they wanted us to think mysterio was a good guy

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No movie should assume the audience read the original source material.

I remember hearing that Mysterio was one of Spiderman’s villains, but that didn’t stop me from enjoying the film. The plot twist was well executed, especially with Jake Gyllenhaal’s great performance.

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No movie should assume the audience read the original source material


Bro, these films completely skipped Spider-Man’s origin story because they were so certain everyone was already familiar with the source material...

That must have bothered you!

LOL!

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Bro, these films completely skipped Spider-Man’s origin story because they were so certain everyone was already familiar with the source material...

That must have bothered you!


The origin story had been covered in major motion pictures twice in the 15 years before Homecoming. Most people who have been following superhero films have caught at least one of those. That makes all the difference. I don't read comics and had no idea who Mysterio was but have seen the 3 Toby Maguire films and 2 Andrew Garfield films. I only knew Mysterio was the villain because a couple guys I work with had mentioned it when Gyllenhaal was cast.

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Nope. That didn’t bother me at all. I enjoyed the films a lot.

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Dude, you say that:

No movie should assume the audience read the original source material.
... then follow that up by saying that it doesn’t bother you.

Is there a point in there somewhere or...?

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My point is that it doesn’t matter. If it is in, good. If it is not, that works as well.

In this case we didn’t need Uncle Ben’s death included. It still worked story wise. Parker was a boy with Spider powers that was discovered by Stark. That’s it.

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I wouldn’t say it was played like a big shocking twist, it was just a reveal. A really casual fan might be surprised by it but it doesn’t really matter either way, the point was for Mysterio to trick Peter Parker not for the movie to trick the audience. It’s more one of those ‘I knew it!’ kind of reveals rather than ‘I did not see that coming’

Besides the real surprise of the movie is the mid-credit sequence so the movie still had a surprising element to it, just right at the end.

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"I wouldn’t say it was played like a big shocking twist, it was just a reveal. A really casual fan might be surprised by it but it doesn’t really matter either way, the point was for Mysterio to trick Peter Parker not for the movie to trick the audience. It’s more one of those ‘I knew it!’ kind of reveals rather than ‘I did not see that coming’ "

Yeah, I'd go with this.

I suspect that most people watching the movie know that Mysterio is a villain. My feeling watching the movie was pretty much what you described.

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so Yes you gigantic IDIOT


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Most comic book movie fans haven't read the comics.....lol

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The majority of people are not comic readers. Hence why it was a twist that he was a villain for the people who don't read comics or watch cartoons and therefore wouldn't know he was a villain. I think my only complaint is that once again the villain hates Tony Stark and Tony Stark is why they're doing what they're doing. I feel like the story could've been done without Tony Stark once again being the reason for the villain's motivation. Hopefully the next one doesn't do that.

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I prefered that he really worked in cinema like in the comics.

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