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Just horrible, numerous plot holes and stupidity

posted 7 years ago by thebricks (292)
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1. The Amazons and Diana know every language but nothing of the outside world and modern weaponry?
2. How did they defeat that warship? None of their arrows could have taken care of it.
3. Why did Diana act like a toddler the entire film?
4. Even though this was World War I, they made the Germans in this movie seem like the Nazis. I'm going to guess the majority of the audience is going to think this was World War 2. I didn't like how the movie's direction and Diana basically arbitrarily picked the British and the Allies as the good guys.
5. Ares has had millennia to do his thing, why did he have to be stopped now? Killing him clearly didn't even end war anyways.
6. By the end of the movie, it just didn't make sense. What was the moral of this movie? Diana didn't stop war. She didn't even stop World War 2. What was the message? It was just silly and lacked focus.
7. A woman directed this movie and it was totally obvious. This is why you don't watch war movies made by women. It was just unrealistic. There was just a lot of dumb shit, especially with Diana walking around moping about how horrible war was despite growing up training for war! What did she expect?
8. What Chris Pine's character did at the end made no sense.
9. The movie was blatant SJW propaganda. The Native American character was only written in to bash white American people. What a disgrace. Men in general also just were bashed at every turn.

I don't know what more to say. Flame on, but this was a terrible movie. Avoid if you have any suspicions about it being a SJW mess and not being good. It pretty much is just very, very bad.

[–] Rindercella (39) 7 years ago

Oh god, the hateful ones found their way here. You hate everything.

[–] thebricks (292) 7 years ago

Yup, Warner Brothers is definitely shelling out the money for shills. I knew it.

I'm not allowed to dislike a movie? Seriously?

[–] nolerhett (78) 7 years ago

Some of your criticisms have merit, but then you went off on a rant about women directors, SJW, and men hating.

Basically your criticisms lacked focus.

[–] thebricks (292) 7 years ago

Sorry, not backing down from my anti-SJW posts. I'm tired of the bullcrap going on. I'm not PC? So sad, deal with it!

Females are usually beyond delusional when making any sort of war movie, I'm sorry.

[–] Bubbathegut (17258) 7 years ago

Its getting close to $800 million.

[–] beith1 (364) 7 years ago

it was an entertaining movie. you watch it, enjoy it then move on with life.

[–] thebricks (292) 7 years ago

It absolutely fucking sucked. The fix was in with the reviews. If you have a brain, you will hate this shit.

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

If you had a brain, you would express yourself in a more mature way.

[–] thebricks (292) 7 years ago

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[–] Bubbathegut (17258) 7 years ago

thebricks gives up and leaves cause WW is a financial and critical success.

woe to the haters!

[–] [deleted] 7 years ago

Thanks for an elaborate description of some of Wonder Woman's failings as a film. I always love it when the end result never equals the wildly zealous marketing.

[–] TandyMan (10433) 7 years ago

This is the straight shooter feedback I was looking for.

[–] Satan2016 (23645) 7 years ago

I'd like to see critical reviews like this on IMDB for a change. Most are fake or shallow.

[–] thebricks (292) 7 years ago

IMDB has a lot of great reviews, but unfortunately, that site and others have wannabe film critic jackasses who are afraid to disagree with the 100-200 critics who make up Rotten Tomatoes, who more than likely are being bribed or influenced in some way.

To hear things like this is as good as the Dark Knight...wow, that's some utter lying crap. Seriously.

[–] woodenbird (167) 7 years ago

1. Because they were supposed to be isolated from humans by Zeus, until they prepared Diana to be able to defeat Ares.
2. Maybe they were faster and most could avoid the bullets. They are trained for it, and they are not human. On the other hand, most WWI soilders were poor young "men" that weren't trained for that kind of fights. The amazons have been training for all their endless lives.
3. She was new in a world she couldn't understand very well at first.
4. "Diana basically arbitrarily picked the British and the Allies as the good guys." i agree with this. There were no good or bad guys in WWI. "Ares has had millennia to do his thing, why did he have to stopped now?" Diana wasn't ready before, maybe. Also, she did not know that humans had been killing eachother for centuries. Her mother protected her from knowing the truth.
5. You didn't understand the message.
6. "Diana walking around moping about how horrible war was despite growing up training for war! What did she expect?" She hadn't seen something like that before. Remember her island? It was peaceful and she was only trained to fight Ares, not to fight another 1000 innocent men in the trenchs with guns.
7. I disagree. He avoided a chemical attack in London, and made possible the end of the war.
8. Why? Why are many white americans so sensitive and insecure about history? Whenever they see a historical reference of something their ancestors actually did they feel so offended. My ancestors probably did fucked up shit too and i wouldn't feel bad if i saw that in a movie.

Sorry, if broken English. It's not my first language

[–] thebricks (292) 7 years ago

Disagreed with nearly everything except for 4, and as for 8, it was an excuse to bash white people and Americans casting that guy. If you had any suspicions about this movie being a dodgy SJW lovefest, that scene left NO doubt.

[–] woodenbird (167) 7 years ago

You are all pretty insecure about history, aren't you?

[–] thebricks (292) 7 years ago

It's a movie about World War 1. WHY THE EFF IS THAT INDIAN GUY THERE BASHING WHITE AMERICAN MEN?

Answer that for me, thanks. This is not some TNT Documentary on Native Americans, which I've even heard glossed over much of the truth, TBH. I've heard a lot of Hollywood movies made Native Americans look better than they really were. When the Revenant came out, one critic, can't remember, even said the movie honestly depicted what Native Americans were like, contrary to what Hollywood usually liked to do. Now, I should obviously say "SOME", because all the tribes weren't like that, but many were resistant to working with white men and were just as warlike and imperialistic as them.

Ok, I'm done, you can tell me I'm racist and wrong now, thanks. Repeat what your school and cable channels indoctrinated you with...

[–] woodenbird (167) 7 years ago

You feel very frustrated and mad for knowing your ancestors did something really bad. Listen, that does not define you lol. Move on and recognize the truth.

And come on, most cowboys movies in the 60's, 70's and 80's showed the native americans as the worst people, when most historians agree on how unfair was the colonization for them. They even called them redskin because the scapled head, according to some historians. I'm not saying you are racist, but you feel threatened and offended for nothing. I'm not American, maybe i just can't understand your feelings. Everybody's ancestors have done bad things and many just live with it without denying what happened.

I don't know why did they put a native american there but if they did it for offending white people, they are succeeding, apparently.

[–] thebricks (292) 7 years ago

I've got news for you, but the Native Americans were just as greedy as the white people. They just didn't have the intelligence and weapons to fight them off the land. But that's life. The Romans did this to European tribes all throughout the continent before their Empire fell and the tribes advanced more and more until they became the imperialists. As knowledge and technology spreads, the European and American empires will fade and it's likely the Asians will take over, then maybe it will be the Africans who are next.

There was just no need to put this crap in this movie, but Patty Jenkins had to do it because she's a psycho feminist liberal.

[–] HAL9000 (935) 7 years ago

calling the (north) american natives greedy is the stupidest thing ive ever heard. they didnt even had the concept of possession. first they got duped and then slaughtered and tortured and mankind lost the most spiritually advanced society ever existed. The USA is build on blood, greed and agression up until today. Theyre polluting the planet and warmongering on everyone for proft.

[–] thebricks (292) 7 years ago

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[–] LordBusiness (120) 7 years ago

How come you can never admit when you're proven wrong on something?

[–] PresidentAckbar (1289) 7 years ago

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $381,478,677 49.8%
+ Foreign: $385,300,000 50.2%
= Worldwide: $766,778,677

[–] PresidentAckbar (1289) 7 years ago

WW made more than the first Iron Man movie too.

#sad

[–] joegerardi (378) 7 years ago

calling the (north) american natives greedy is the stupidest thing ive ever heard.

Bullshit. They had wars for land, and they had slavery. Not conjecture, documented fact. I was married to an Indian and my children are considered Indian, so I have made sure they were aware of their tribe's heritage by studying what history they have. They are from the Seneca tribe - the Seneca have NEVER been defeated in combat - and they are proud of that fact. So, how could they make that claim had there never been a war? What were the reasons for war? Greed, same as everyone else. They (or others) coveted things, so they went to war over it.

The Apache were a hostile, warmongering race long before the whites came. Same for the Kiowa. Both known for their savagery.

As to the ridiculous comment that they didn't even have the "concept of possession," well, why do you think they fought the whites? To protect what they considered their land. THEIR land, as in THEY owned it. If you don't think that's a possession, then really: change your name, because you haven't ANY logic associated with a computer.

..Joe

[–] papamihel (1580) 7 years ago

1. Because they were supposed to be isolated from humans by Zeus, until they prepared Diana to be able to defeat Ares.

Hippolyta was supposed to have lived before the Trojan war. And everything suggests that this War of Gods happened at the time of Ancient Greece - in the Age of Heroes.
a/ Most of the languages Diana speaks in the movie didn't exist then
b/ If Zeus's last act as a God was to bring Diana to life that means it took her over 3,500 years to grow into what... Her early 20s? That doesn't sound right.

[–] keithmovies (627) 7 years ago

2. How did they defeat that warship? None of their arrows could have taken care of it.

- Warship?

3. Why did Diana act like a toddler the entire film?

- Outspoken and oblivious to western social customs rather than immature I would say.

4. Even though this was World War I, they made the Germans in this movie seem like the Nazis. I'm going to guess the majority of the audience is going to think this was World War 2. I didn't like how the movie's direction and Diana basically arbitrarily picked the British and the Allies as the good guys. Ares has had millennia to do his thing, why did he have to stopped now? Killing him clearly didn't even end war anyways.

- Interesting point. As the audience we assume on some level that she picks a side or believes the Allies to be in the right, but actually she has only two goals: kill Ares, stop the war. She trusts Steve and wants to help him because she accepts that probably he has the same goal of stopping the war and that he is a good person at heart, and that he will help achieve her goals.

5. By the end of the movie, it just didn't make sense. What was the moral of this movie? Diana didn't stop war. She didn't even stop World War 2. What was the message? It was just silly and lacked focus.

- She helped stop World War One and allowed the Armistice to go ahead (albeit being a problematic event itself). At the end of the movie its not her goal to stop all wars but to promote a better way forward by inspiring love in their hearts.

6. A woman directed this movie and it was totally obvious. This is why you don't watch war movies made by women. It was just unrealistic. There was just a lot of dumb shit, especially with Diana walking around moping about how horrible war was despite growing up training for war! What did she expect?

- She didn't have personal experience of war and thought it was about winning a competition of some kind without consequences. Witnessing suffering caused by war

[–] keithmovies (627) 7 years ago

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changed her perspective.

7. What Chris Pine's character did at the end made no sense.

- He didn't need to sacrifice his life but as we saw it led to Wonder Woman gaining the will to utterly defeat Ares.

8. The movie was blatant SJW propaganda. The Native American character was only written in to bash white American people. What a disgrace. Men in general also just were bashed at every turn.

- I saw it as being more about the ethics or political judgements and their consequences for people with relatively little power. It's a fact that there is inequality and this breeds injustice.

[–] FadingDawn (25) 7 years ago

I would't say horrible, but GG definitely cannot act. Also, some parts of the dialogue were the worst I've probably ever heard. "I believe in love" etc... 5,5/10

[–] R_Kane (15828) 7 years ago

You never told us why you hate Sansa so much. You just dumped and ran. I don't take you seriously.

[–] thebricks (292) 7 years ago

Gadot was a terrible lead and the movie was horrible. Just because the paid-off critics said it was good doesn't mean they're honest. This was just BAD.

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[–] therefdotcom (964) 7 years ago

yeah, as long as no moderators bother you for foul play, right? then it's a compleeetely different story.

[–] TheReccher (343) 7 years ago

"Gal Gadot cannot act." And you say this on the boards for a movie where she gives evidence for the exact contrary. Logic.