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Men are not Shallow, Women are


Men are attracted to a "fit" women more than anything, is that shallow? all woman should strive to be fit, a fit woman is likely to be healthier, as a result she is likely to have a longer life, and society is going to benefit as the healthcare costs are going to go down

what are woman attracted to? basically a guy who is rich and tall and good looking, things that are unattainable unless you are born in the right family or are selling your soul to achieve

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Who hurt you?

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I know right?

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If a "fit", healthy weight for a woman was 200 LBS, you wouldn't want her. You would still be shallow and go for the "unhealthy" 110LB woman with the slim waist and round ass.

In other words, you're only interested in "fit" women because they look good. I doubt you care much for their health..

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But, generally speaking, looking good and being healthy go hand-in-hand. I'm talking about adults and not teens/early 20s who usually look good regardless of their bad habits, like smoking & drug abuse. Once you hit about 30 your lifestyle choices become more apparent.

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Thats a massively simplistic look at things. You are wrong and trying to use extremely to prove a point.

the ideal healthy body for every person is lean with good cardiovascular health.

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That doesn't address what he just said at all.

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it actually does. he said "looking good and being healthy go hand-in-hand"

the stereotype of beauty for a woman is big butt and chest. Besides genetic help, its extremely hard to get this.

the stereotypical concept of looking good is not the same as the ideal being healthy. which is a runners body.

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And that agrees with what I said (and meant), which is that -- once a person's over 30 -- looking good and being healthy go hand-in-hand. And having a runner's body looks good. It may or may not be the ideal of certain people according to their taste, but no one can deny that those with a runner's body look good for their specific body type and unique features.

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its tough cause its sooo subjective but I don't know if the runner body is the stereotypical "attractive body" for men or women.

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But anyone with a healthy runner's body (not someone who's anorexic) almost always looks good, whatever their body type.

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With generations of men drooling over woman with plump bottoms and ample breasts (not a runners body), it astounds me you believe that. Undoubtedly, some people find that attractive, but that is very obviously not the standard for attractiveness for men.

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I prefer curvy (not fat) women myself. But a woman can be curvy and athletic, like Shakira or even Jennifer Lopez (I only mention those two because of their recent performances at the Super Bowl).

Now consider dudes: A guy can lift weights to build up his chest/shoulders/arms, but struggles to keep the weight off in the gut. Generally speaking, the man with a runner's body looks better because he doesn't have a paunch in the slightest. He can wear anything he wants and looks good whereas the weightlifting guy with the paunch has to wear particular clothes to hide his gut.

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Being fit and being attractive go hand in hand, but one doesn't guarantee the other. It would behoove us all to strive to be fit, and if you hope to be attractive, be healthy. It's more important for people to be concerned about THEIR OWN health, but I wouldn't assume that some people aren't concerned about other people's health. You have heard of health care professionals, haven't you?

But a lot of people don't care. I see men coo-cooing with women who are (to me) unpleasantly large, so there seems to be plenty of variety out there.

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If donkeys could fly blah blah blah.

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Both can be, but it varies from one person to the next.

As it turns out, advertisements and movies are not realistic in any sense of the word as to how people actually look, versus those in the media, and it turns out, many men, particularly those in America, are not interested in a bony Barbie doll of a woman. Some like girls with more meat on them and hair that ISN'T blond. As for the women, again, it varies from one to the next. They do want men who are at least pleasing to look at, but not all are interested in marrying or dating an Adonis, because frankly, he's as elusive in regular society as the Barbie is.

There was actually a scientific study done (and it was fascinating to watch on tv) and it turns out, that most people are naturally and subconsciously attracted towards people who are similar to them when it comes to attractiveness. They did this using a room full of volunteers; with an equal number of men and women, and did several experiments in having them choose a "partner." They used a scale based on the Golden Ratio, with 1 as the worst, and 10 as the best. It turns out, say, if you're a 6 on the attractiveness scale (and most people are in that range, by the way) chances are very likely that you will be attracted to someone who is between 5 and 7. (Part of that experiment was done blindly, so the volunteers couldn't remember who had what number).

On rare occasions, you'll meet people who go for someone above or below that range, but that's a personal choice, rather than an unconscious one. Attraction is also based on personality too, hence why people who are not considered attractive by society's standards can still find a mate.

My mom said it best when she told me "Water seeks its own level," and nowhere has that been truer than when it comes to people getting together.

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This is your best post.

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We want young women with good birthing hips, ample milk bobs, and excellent bone structure.

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preferably non-obese, but this is getting exceptionally rare in today's world. I've noticed a huge change over the last 5 years, this could be an obesity catastrophe, not just an epidemic.
Almost everybody addicted to cakes, cookies, candy bars, confections, chocolate bars, cinnabuns, choco pies, chips, covfefe, candies, coffee cakes, colas, donuts, ding-dongs, ho-ho's.

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Obesity in the younger generation is quickly getting checked, but yeah, the older generation is very overweight. Today, schools, society and doctors put such an emphasis on educating people about healthy eating, but that wasn't the case for my generation. I'd have made a lot of different choices if menus had calories next to food when I was growing up. I was told cheese, peanut butter and bread were all important parts of a healthy diet, and we know to avoid that stuff now.

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is the younger generation going to avoid all the cheap junk food options that permeate every corner of our daily lives. Yes, I know education is very important but I also think that the odds are so overwhelmingly against everybody that the big junk food companies can't help but win by a score of 100-0. Honestly I'm not seeing a lot of trim, fit, healthy looking young people, I'm seeing the exact opposite.

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Men are not very picky beyond looks.I don't think wanting someone who is attractive is shallow.Women on the other hand have much higher standards.Is he tall.Is he good looking.Does he have money.Does he have a job.Will he watch my favorite chick flix.Men are just happy if an attractive woman engages them.

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Does he put a question mark at the end of an interrogative sentence?

Yeah, women care about education and intelligence. They want to have smart children.

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I like a variety women whether they are athetic,curvy or like Ashley Graham(There have been body postive people in the media lately) I don't expect a woman to look like a Victoria Secret model

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Both men and women can be shallow. Don't pin this on any one group. And for the record, not all men want slender girls. Not all women want rich, good-looking men. Some will settle for an average guy who has a steady job. The smart ones will settle for a guy who loves them.

You obviously hung out with a bunch of selfish, money-hungry bitches in L.A. to get a mindset like that. Do yourself a favor and get out of there while you can.

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men and women are equally shallow.

of course everyone prefers the fit and beautiful. meh, sometimes ya just gotta settle for something else

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