Just rewatched the episode where Adriana is killed. That episode pisses me off still so much. Tony is back with Carmella and all is right with his world, meanwhile he tells Adriana that Chris tried to kill himself to get her to go into a car with Silvio. Glad that Tony killed Christopher in several episodes later and also happy that David Chase says that Tony gets killed in the diner and they just don't show it. The only bad part of that is the rest of the family is killed also.
share"The rest of the family is killed also".
Huh?
I read an interview with David Chase where he said that after the final scene turns to black, the entire Soprano family is gunned down.
shareHuh. Families are usually left out of it. That would be a very strange ending. I don't like that idea at all.
shareI thought the same thing, but that is what Chase said. He also said that you can draw your own conclusions too, but in his mind, that is what happened.
shareWell I don't like it and it doesn't really fit with what would really happen in the mafia. My ending has Tony dying and that's it, lol.
shareChase didn't say that. It's all easy to find. He alluded to what some thought was a confession to Tony's death but he later retracted that as a misinterpretation of what he said. And nothing about the family being gunned down. He even mentioned what he thought AJ's and Meadow's future would be like.
shareI swear I read that somewhere, but now I can't find it at all. From what I remember someone asked Chase, if the family dies after the scene cuts to black. He says "Yes". Then he says, but you can end it the way you want. I will continue to look for that interview.
shareI've read them all right thru 2019. And I have a hard time believing that such an answer would not have reached wiki by now.
shareHe did say that he always had planned for Tony to die in the end, but now I can't seem to find that article I read. Maybe I dreamed it. I do remember reading it though. So strange.
shareHe did. And he described what he was shooting for with the approach to the ending. But I've never read a thing about the entire family being gunned down. That doesn't fit with anything he ever said on the subject or what he was attempting to put forth from an artistic perspective.
shareIf I remember the scene correctly, Meadow wasn't even in a position to be gunned down, she was in the middle of opening the door when it goes to black. I guess she could have been shot thereafter but it makes it all the more unbelievable his family would be shot too.
shareit doesn't make sense on any level. the mob would never take out his wife and kids in a public place in that way either. bad for business b/c the heat on them for doing so would be overwhelming.
shareThank you! At last: some closure.
Also explains why the rumored Sopranos movie never happened.
Of course, Gandolfini was also dead, so there’s that.
Link? It should be easy to find since it's such a clear answer to such a controversial finale to such an iconic show.
shareI always figured Tony died. Remember when Tony and Bobby were on a boat fishing and the subject of death was brought up? Bobby said something like "it's probably like a light being turned off".
shareYes, but it's more symbolic than that. It's about the threat he faces moment to moment. And nothing about his entire family being gunned down. He gave nothing as clear and definite as what modica just said.
I understand. I never heard anything about the family being killed. It doesn't seem to fit.
shareYeah, I may have been wrong about the family, but I swear he said Tony gets gunned down for sure. I thought I even heard it on television after I read it. Must be The Mandela Effect at work. lol
shareIn his attempt to retract what was thought to be a slip of the tongue regarding Tony's "death scene", he said he was referring to a prior version that he never actually went forward with.
"Seitz told the A.V. Club* that he followed up with Chase to clarify his comment—and Chase told him the “death scene” he was describing was not the Holsten’s scene, but an earlier idea he’d abandoned. “I seriously doubt that’s going to dissuade anybody from believing whatever it is they already believe, though,” Seitz said. “If the last 12 years have taught us anything, it’s that, to misquote a famous Simon & Garfunkel song, a Sopranos fan will hear what he wants to hear and disregard the rest.”"
You are probably correct.
shareBullshit, he never said this.
shareCan you source that interview where Chase says that Tony got killed? He's always been very coy about the ending, and seems to get off on the fact that he's smarter than everyone else.
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No, Chase never said that. The reason why he never explained Tony's fate is because he didn't know how to end it, or didn't know how to film it, and still doesn't know. He's contradicted himself several times in interviews over the years.
If Gandolfini lived and they decided to do a movie, no one would scream that the movie goes against the last scene because the scene shows nothing either way. All we have is what was filmed - which is exactly zip.
Why does the episode make you angry? She was working for the feds undercover so you know what happens when they find out.
She was not very smart Chris says he needs to go out and get some air right after she tells him. Duh, how does she trust him then?
Amazing all these rats and informers but Tony and his crew stay out of prison.