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Even now that Biden is "President" why do Liberals still rage against Trump?


It goes something like this... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4zYlOU7Fpk

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Because they’re bankrupt losers with nothing to offer the American people.

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This, and they have TDS and have nothing good to say about dementia Joe.

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Because they're self loathing, miserable people who want to rein down their misery on others.

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Maybe read a book instead of burning it. Might improve your spelling!

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That all you got, Copernicus?

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LOL@ Canobeans trying to push the narrative that Conservatives are the ones trying to burn/ban books in 2021.

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Rein, rain, reign, I thought I picked the right one. Sue me but thanks for pointing it out. Unlike most, I appreciate being made aware of errors, as I strive to be better.

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Generalize; master nothing.

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I wish you well as you are worse off than is fair.

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I think you're going to have to answer that question as some Liberals, some Democrats, some Progressives, some RINOs, some Republicans, some Moviechat posters, some Editorialists, some Ex-Trumpers, some Ex-Trump administration employees, and etc; AREN'T raging against Trump because he is no longer President.

Ask Mitch McConnell.

“President Trump is still liable for everything he did while he was in office as an ordinary citizen,” McConnell said. “He didn’t get away with anything. Yet.”

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Trump set the whole country back years, if not decades, and if not century back to the Civil War. He deserves prison time along with his disgusting grifter children.

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Wrong, Trump was actually making progress. Making a difference. Bidens a boob who can't even read off of cue cards, has created a shit show at the border, and who takes credit for Trump's Warp Speed vaccine program. You libtards should be ashamed of yourself for electing this idiot as your president. What an embarrassment.

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Just because you come up with a name for vaccine roll-out, and I doubt Trump came up with even that, does not make him responsible for it or successful at it. He wanted to kill as many people as he could.

Warp Speed ... do you have any clue, the vaccines were put together over a weekend back in December of 2019 by the drug companies once China release the DNA of the virus ... it was a simple cut and paste of a section of virus onto a delivery agent.

Meanwhile Trump was refusing to let sick people debark from cruise ships, and saying if you test for Covid-19 you create more cases. Not to mention his whole blabber about Hydroxychloriquine and how he was going to test it out, and the drinking bleach and killing the virus with light. The world laughed at Trump.

If you are not ashamed of your support for Trump you are not a real American.

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He did ask about killing the virus with UV light, because guess what, it does (that's why there are now UV boxes you can buy to put your masks into to sanitize them). On the other hand, he also naively asked about somehow applying this directly to a person, which is the ridiculous science fiction part that he should deservedly be laughed at for.

But drinking bleach? The fact you think he actually said that invalidates every other word you type or utter.

And it wasn't him that quarantined people in boats. It was the medical authorities. It's standard protocol.

You're way over-simplifying the path to a vaccine. Trump's role was to hound and incentivize drug companies to put major focus on a vaccine, and he removed regulations that helped greatly speed the process up. But it boils down to not much more than being a cheerleader, which is exactly what a president is. The real credit goes to those who worked diligently on the innovative mRNA-based delivery system that has forever changed vaccine delivery methods. Yes, Trump claims credit just like all presidents claim credit for anything that happens while they're in office, but you're being a bit disingenuous here, or you’re woefully misinformed, or both. It was absolutely him that spurred it on and paved the way for it.

As far as your comment about him setting the country back decades, you need to explain that. Are you sure he didn't move the country back decades in positive ways? Because pre-COVID his policies accomplished:

1) The lowest unemployment in 50 years (especially for minorities)
2) The highest average income for the lower and middle class in decades
3) Complete energy independence for the first time in decades
4) Negotiated the best foreign trade position in decades (especially with China)
5) The biggest tax reform in 3 decades (my own paycheck increased noticeably)
…..5a) this included massive investment incentives helping low-income areas
6) The First Step Act, the largest prison reform bill in decades
7) Absolutely crushed the ISIS caliphate (seriously, finally stamped it out)
8) Facilitated Middle East peace agreements once thought to be impossible
9) Lowest prescription drug prices in over a decade
10) The best stock market performance in history, breaking records over 100 times

And those are just a few highlights. I completely understand people not liking him personally. But ultimately, that’s not what really matters. What counts is what he did for the country, and unlike your statement of him setting it back decades in a negative way, he in fact brought it back into focus and helped America prosper once again.

He also simultaneously said and tweeted very stupid things, riled up the left unnecessarily with his inflammatory, combative demeanor, and exhibited the grammar of a fifth grader. But while his personality was abrasive, he fought to make the lives of American citizens better, and accomplished more in one term than most presidents do in both.

On the other hand, Biden’s deluge of executive orders has already led to, or is heading toward:

1.) Triple gas prices in a month's time
2.) A major tax hit to paychecks
3.) A complete mess at the border
4.) Biological males unfairly winning women's sports competitions
5.) Major companies immediately planning to move jobs back offshore
6.) Insurance prices jumping back up to pre-Trump levels
7.) Stricter regulations that will kill many small businesses
8.) Weak trade negotiations giving foreign entities the upper hand again

It’s important to drop all bias, ideology and belief, and put things into their proper reality-based perspective. Trump did a lot of good. He also did some not so good. I suspect your disdain for his personality, for which there is some merit, is blinding you to the positives. Nothing is black and white. Everything is gray and complex. Stop believing. Start thinking.

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>> He did ask about killing the virus with UV light, because guess what, it does (that's why there are now UV boxes you can buy to put your masks into to sanitize them).

LIE - Not in the body. Only an idiot or a Trump thug would claim the President meant that, because, stupid as Trump surely is, even he knows about the anti-microbial functions of UV light - OUTSIDE THE BODY. If you claim he didn't know, they why did dim bulb Trump have to constantly boast about how smart he was - smarter than the doctors if you recall.

The point is, after starting off with such an involved whopper BS nonsense, like you do, why would I waste my time talking to you? All you do is take it as another opportunity to put your crazy out there. Not interested.

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Actually what you quote is a fact. You say "lie" and then reiterate the very thing you just quoted as the fact it is.

I find your lack of self-awareness... interesting.

And I guess you missed the very next line of "On the other hand, he also naively asked about somehow applying this directly to a person, which is the ridiculous science fiction part that he should deservedly be laughed at for."

You can choose to bury yourself in your juvenile hate instead of listening to even-keeled wisdom. You're loss. But I recommend you read my entire post and then spend some time meditating on the message I conveyed.

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Appreciate the feedback!

Common sense seems to be in very short order these days, replaced by bias, group-think and tribalism.

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You are staggeringly uninformed.

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[–] SweetTooth43 (227) 5 hours ago
Wrong, Trump was actually making progress. Making a difference.
As a subjective opinion that is a wonderful sentiment. If you took an objective stance you would reflect and opine quite a bit differently. The difference was negative NOT positive. He should take credit for extending an economy that he inherited but the net growth under his lack of leadership was less than the net growth of the previous administration by all comparisons. It is kind of like the last man in a relay race taking credit for the entire race. Doesn't work that way and now that he is OUT of office the race is still being run. The problem is though that the Trump administration left the current administration in a hole and NOT whole.
Bidens a boob who can't even read off of cue cards,
You know that is not the case and that President Joe Biden isn't a boob, nor is he incompetent; and reading with notes and cue cards is the mark of a man PREPARED and not just winging it.
has created a shit show at the border,
There is no "shit show" at the border. What is at the border is an administration that is managing and governing. Something that the previous administration failed to do.
and who takes credit for Trump's Warp Speed vaccine program.
The Biden administration is taking credit for putting "Shots in Arm". Period. The previous administration denounced Testing, promoted Hydroxychloroquine, Bleach (Internal disinfectant) and Ultraviolet Light under the skin? The previous administration wants credit for allegedly pressuring private companies to Warp Speed-up the creation of vaccines and bypass medical approval and now that those vaccines are there large swaths of the American citizenry refuse to take them and or wear masks because it allegedly violates their "freedom" and their "Right" to get sick or to sicken others. Why? Because the last administration wanted to impress Americans that the Covid-19 virus shouldn't dominate you. Meanwhile he took medications that most Americans could NEVER get their hands on and then took the vaccine secretly while hiding in the basement of the House.
You libtards should be ashamed of yourself for electing this idiot as your president.
I have no idea what a "Libtard" is but I am proud to have voted for the Democratic ticket for President and Vice President. Attempting to denigrate the President by name-calling him is just silly and smacks of a person throwing a temper tantrum because you can't get your way. In this case the majority is clearly enthused that you didn't get your way because a "Grifter" has been removed from office after one failed term.
What an embarrassment.
Yes Donald Trump was.

Yes he was.

Oddly enough he continues to embarrass himself and the country by trying to re-write history at the Capitol. There are a host of things that shows and proves he was an objective embarrassment. His continued attempts to rewrite and market the Insurrection at the Capitol as a "Great Thing" is his most egregious.

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Well said

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You guys are brainwashed by the liberal media.

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Let me tell you how to figure out what sides are brainwashed or not, so you can either know you are full of detritus, or understand intellectually where the brainwashing is taking place.

If we want to determine who is brainwashed the real way to do that would to compare a person against known facts of reality. Meaning, that the people who have the closest mental model and understand and are the least brainwashed would be the people whose mental model most closely approximates the truth, and demonstrates understanding of the interconnectedness of facts.

Since the Right are the ones who flock to these uncredited, discredited, untrustworthy organizations like Fox News, Sinclair Media, etc ... and believe the crazy theories such as QANON and PizzaGate and KKK and White Nationalism, then they either do not understand that they are putting their faith in untrustworthy authorities ( i.e. Brainwashed, or they are deliberately going along with what they know is wrong because they see profit in it, Criminally Insane ).

That's where I stand on the issue - always based on reality, logic and science - applied towards democracy.

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Dementia Joe can't even get through a speech, let alone run a nation, except into the ground.

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Well, you know that is not true, and you say it and promote it against the evidence of your eyes and everyone else's. A person with dementia could absolutely not function as President of the United States. Ergo - Joe Biden may have stutters and not be a great public speaker, but that does not seem to affect his ability to be one of the best Presidents since Roosevelt. Of course the bar for that has been so low since the Corporations/Rich/and Foreign Billionaires bribed over control of the American government post-WWII.

Reasoning further, if you tried to reverse the sense of the proposition that "A person with dementia could absolutely not function as President of the United States" ... to "A person that could not function as President of the United States might have dementia" ... that would be pointing directly at the empty head of Donald J. Trump, who did nothing but drone on and on about how superior he thought he was, play golf and follow the dictates of the same billionaire class that has screwed up American to the point we are now.

Somehow we are supposed to believe and take seriously the votes of people who can look at Donald Trump and think they see a superman. Imagine how far down the evolutionary scale and just how stupid one would have to be to look at Donald Trump and mistake him for a superman? They are like the intellectual lowest of the low. It boggles the mind.

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You think I actually read that crap.

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No, because you have dementia. LOL

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Is there anything you think Trump did well as a president? Be honest.

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I would not say Donald Trump did anything well as President, because he just did not understand the office or the government, and he was egotistical and powermad.

However, I did not object to moving the American embassy in Israel to Jerusalem and taking out terrorist Iranian General Suleimani. I really cannot think of anything else.

I recognize his attempts with North Korea and China, but his egotistical approach was doomed to fail before he even started. Also, his betrayal of the Kurds was despicable.

What Trump said he wanted to do ... or "claimed" he wanted to he did nothing to bring about and in the general case made things worse.

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That's all you can come up with? Why don't you pretend his name isn't Donald Trump? Come on, be honest.

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You asked me, I told you. That's it.

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Do you automatically dismiss Republicans?

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You asked me, I told you. Why do you keep asking or assuming? No hidden meaning or tricks, I said what I said, he did two major things I didn't disagree with.

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" A person with dementia could absolutely not function as President of the United States."

It's a progressive condition. Watch interviews of Biden from 5 or 6 years ago and you're looking at a totally different person from the one who sits in the White House today.

It's undeniable that his team has been carefully managing his public appearances for the last year in an unprecedented manner.

I think it is unlikely that he will be able to complete his term.

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Biden at his worst is far better than Trump at his best.

Biden understands government and all the issues. When asked to think and talk on feet in public Biden is definitely impatient with it, which is exactly how I would be. Biden doesn't like to BS the country, like Trump can do all day long. It is hard to think and then verbalize policy in real time while in a news conference ...

It is hard to think and then verbalize policy in real time while in a news conference which is why throughout his whole term Donald Trump did not make any real policy statements after a certain point when he started to realize that virtually everything he would said one day he or his spokespeople were explaining or unsaying the next day.

Trump may have said things confidently and loudly, but he never knew what he was talking about. The examples are rampant ... every time Trump opened his yap he said something wrong, or stupid or just lied ... and of course always unnecessarily rude and insulting to the media. That is no kind of a world leader.

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"Trump set the whole country back years, if not decades"

120 years back?

Joe Biden: 'I came to the US Senate 120 years ago'

https://youtu.be/1XzpQ3xMxDs

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Mitch McConnell? The only thing Mitch McConnell cares about is Mitch McConnell. If he thinks it benefits him to back Trump, he does. I he thinks it benefits him to condemn Trump, he does. He does not serve or represent conservatives.

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[–] chilone (7368) 4 hours ago
Mitch McConnell? The only thing Mitch McConnell cares about is Mitch McConnell. If he thinks it benefits him to back Trump, he does. I he thinks it benefits him to condemn Trump, he does. He does not serve or represent conservatives.
The only reason Republicans and Conservatives have the two Supreme Court justices that they currently gloat about is because of your supposedly self-serving Mitch McConnell. The reason so much of the people's agenda was thwarted for six years of the Obama presidency is because of your self aggrandizing Mitch McConnell.

Maybe his efforts weren't truly conservative based on definitions of "Conservatism" and political governance, but conservatives have gladly lapped up the milk of his efforts. You are no more an American Conservative than Moscow Mitch based on your own statements. This is all about raw naked attempts to keep power and control.

Yes, Mitch McConnell got it right. Citizen Donald Trump at some point won't be able to "Grift" his way out of accountability.

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Because the nationalist message of Trump's presidency isn't going away. It's likely going to come back even stronger in the next few elections.

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Because they're NUTS!

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That's easy. It's because he won't go away, and his former minions in Congress ae still afraid of losing their seats if they say something to upset his legion of deranged followers.

George W. Bush knew enough to retire from the public spotlight, but not this guy.

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cause it distracts them from admitting that Joe hasnt really been very active or transparent, or even seen since taking office

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Maybe open you eyes and see that is the problem - not that Biden has not been transparent. Biden is doing a great job in only two months. He hit the ground running, and while as an athlete Joe leaves much to be desired, as President he "runs" his agenda quick and competently.

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