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I am proud of TRUMP for his emergency-call to build Wall.


I know, the idea bugs people because it costs mega-zillions bucks. But the same people dont' mind if we spend the money in granting freebies and welfare from your tax money to support the much self-entitled Central-American foreigners. How utterly special they must be in your opinion.

Thats why you get soooo stressed when it takes 2 hours on the freeway to go 5 miles due to being crowded and infiltrated by them, or you cannot check-out in a timely-manner in a store for the same reason.

No, it's convenient to criticize his looks and personal life to distract from his positve deeds like the much-need wall, which people agree with--but only behind closed doors. Honestly is so difficult for the sheep.

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Most illegal immigrants come here legally. Wall is a waste of money. Two coasts without walls, also.

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How is that known? If illegal immigrants are not on the census, how do you count what is not capable of being counted? The immigration dept claims they will not pursue illegal immigrants , even if they know they are illegal, because there are too many. The exception would be if they committed a crime. You dont' think the hospitals, motor vehicle dept, and jails have stats on who is legal and not legal? It doesn't really take much calculating when you add the figures based on the aforementioned.

But, anyway, why are people so gung-ho on the legal immigrants causing the decay of our neighborhoods (etc.) and expecting us to assimilate to their culture (instead of the reverse)

Also, if they are legal, why the acceleration of them only during the last few decades? You dont' see any pattern?

Because you spend a lot money now, there is such a thing as saving money in the long run. Do people think deep enough to understand that some thing pays for itself in the long run--and in addition, spares us their imposition?. For example, maybe when you get weary enough of having to struggle to adapt to their Spanish because they never learned English, you'll have a clearer grasp on it.

But, you'd have to actually live in Los Angeles to understand.

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Census isn't the only source of statistics. Most noncitizen immigrants come here on a work visa, or for school, try to deal with getting their citizenship, then either run out of time or give up.... and stay anyway, illegally. A wall is merely a symbolic gesture to appease Trumps nationalist base.

A very expensive and wasteful gesture.

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That's how con-artists brainwash poor people into supporting them. By using expensive and wasteful gestures that end up being paid by the very same poor people.

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No, a wall (or metal fence) is to keep out the unwelcome undesirable parasitic-humans that are not owed a free pass. If you understood what ethics and morals are, it would not need to be explained to you. You, and your game-playing peers, are not "hip" or progressive, but a symbol of the uncaring masses who lack the foresight necessary to understand the jeopardizing effect of allowing "anyone" to do whatever they wish.

It's likely the very same type who feel owed and self-entitled who give free passes because the concept of right vs. wrong was either never instilled in you, or you do not relate to abiding by the law. A disgrace. That is why other countries are laughing at us, due to the narcissism and lack of caring among the new-age--and pandering to make yourself appear charitable and giving. No amount of rhetoric disguises the fact. What a "wasteful" gesture. I will not be returning to check for replies from dis-genuine posters who casually exploit the topic (and internet boards) like this for their own gratifying selfish kicks, like they do in their everyday life. And please don't breed, so your offspring are not susceptible to the same jaded hollow mindset.

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Cut the preachy bullshit, I'm not buying it.

I did lol at your moral equivocations though, even with them being pretty basic. I guess you just really worked hard to sell it.

But see, that's what doomed you in terms of believability.

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You realize Sarah Huckleberry Sanders was schooled on FOX that the number of arrests and terrorists involving illegal immigrants were in fact NOT part of anything a wall would help. They came on ships and boats and airplanes.

Think about it...FOX NEWS showed more moral integrity than an erstwhile member of Trumps band of morons. That should give even the most diehard trumper pause.


....but it won't.

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Illegals are on the census. Everyone is counted.

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Wait.....what?

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"I know, the idea bugs people because it costs mega-zillions bucks."

It won't cost us 'mega-zillion bucks' because he promised you and the rest of those who want the wall built that MEXICO IS PAYING FOR THE WALL. How quickly you forget that you've been duped by the snake-oil salesman.

"But the same people dont' mind if we spend the money in granting freebies and welfare from your tax money to support the much self-entitled Central-American foreigners. How utterly special they must be in your opinion."

The same people would rather see the 'mega-zillion bucks' help the homeless vets in our country, vets with mental illness and physical disabilities, , and vets who are starving. Of course, that's not convenient for you - vets come in 'handy' when as props to the republicans.

"Thats why you get soooo stressed when it takes 2 hours on the freeway to go 5 miles due to being crowded and infiltrated by them, or you cannot check-out in a timely-manner in a store for the same reason."

You mean other immigrants from Asia, Europe, Canada, Australia, Russia, etc. move aside and let everyone who is Native American pass through? Seriously?

I do know that whenever I see anyone at all - from no matter where they are from - in the check-out line, or driving on the freeway means they're contributing to our economy in multiple ways. They're buying products, they're paying sales tax on products and gasoline, and they've paid sales tax on the car they purchased and now driving on the freeway. Imagine? Helping our economy, keeping thousands employed.

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The same people would rather see the 'mega-zillion bucks' help the homeless vets in our country, vets with mental illness and physical disabilities, and vets who are starving. Of course, that's not convenient for you - vets come in 'handy' when as props to the republicans.
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It's not a republican/liberal a matter. It's the actual concrete/tangible things that you see what your own eyes, regardless of what political party you belong to.
And Did anyone say Vienam vets are being ignored due to the Wall? What was the excuse for the Vietnam vets before Trump was elected and the plan for the wall never existed? You're making excuses, and using selective -reasoning. In that case, tax-payers should be donating their money to the mentally-ill instead of paying for your abortions.
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You mean other immigrants from Asia, Europe, Canada, Australia, Russia, etc. move aside and let everyone who is Native American pass through? Seriously?
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No, I mean the illegal Mexicans who wrongly populate out country in numbers , and never adapted to out culture. Seriously. young person.


I do know that whenever I see anyone at all - from no matter where they are from - in the check-out line, or driving on the freeway means they're contributing to our economy in multiple ways. They're buying products, they're paying sales tax on products and gasoline, and they've paid sales tax on the car they purchased and now driving on the freeway. Imagine? Helping our economy, keeping thousands employed.
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But you have not weighed those who are employed and pay taxes vs.with who do not. Do you live in Los Angeles, and do you know what it means to count the cumulative -effect, and not just the individuals you see? Are you writing from Ohio, and saying what sounds nice and wholesome about a place you never laid your eyes on? Do you live in L.A., in order to run your politically-correct mouth off?
Do you care about the generations that will follow you? Do you care about becoming a minority when you are a U.S. citizen. Are we invading Mexico and becoming a majority there? Do you care at all?

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He did? LOL

His reasoning is waaaaaaaay too stupid to respond to, so I'll pass.

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If idiots had any reasoning whatsoever, they wouldn't be idiots. And they wouldn't support Trump.

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True! LOL

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Notice how the Trump defenders only chime in on race related issues. They will talk and talk and talk until they are blue in the face about immigration and white customers grabbing black employees, but on more pertinent stuff related to Trump such as the shutdown and the stock market, they are silent except for that bubba guy who does it to troll.

They make it so obvious they only support him because of white nationalism.

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You got that right! If they didn’t comment on race or immigration issues they’d have nothing to say.

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sorry dude. but the wall will never happen. the Wall is a waste of money and they are going to waste their time building that wall. lol

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The wall isn't even a wall any more. It's a bunch of line-of-sight slats.

Fine, build your slats. We don't care. But a wall you aren't going to get because it's STUPID

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Trump is not stupid. In that case, why is he building a wall, to WASTE our money and make enemies? No, he's doing it because he's older and wiser than the younger-set who do not remember (and do not care) how it was before the brown-people ruined so much, and it's because it does not affect you personally. And why does 50% of the population agree with him, because they are stupid and you're smarter? You don't know any different, in other words, and I feel sorry for you if that's the case.

ANYONE over 29 on these boards?

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He campaigned on a wall that he could put his name on, YOU liked the idea, and so now he's building it because you're the only people that still has respect for the Idiot in Chief and because he wants his name on it in some capacity.

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Yes, he must be an idiot because he actually cares about the U.S. as a whole --and the great economy and societal-ways we used to have. That's a compliment to him. Meanwhile, the youngsters are increasingly becoming self-absorbed, hollow, numb, and only care about what affects THEM, and WHEN it affects THEM. Ugh.

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He cares about himself and his name recognition. That's it. You've been duped.

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He campaigned on a wall that he could put his name on, YOU liked the idea, and so now he's building it because you're the only people that still has respect for the Idiot in Chief and because he wants his name on it in some capacity.
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The wall serves no purpose but to have name on it? That doesn't even make sense. The wall should had been erected 40 yrs ago. Whats wrong, Cher doesn't think it's 'cool', so let's all agree with the rich and famous who are not affected by negative things. What do you propose instead of a wall then? Do nothing? So, in your mind, no problem exists with immigration. You're delusional,

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I described two purposes. The wall is another building he can have his name attributed to and the wall is something his base will praise him for even if it doesn't change anything.

His base likes the wall idea for two reasons. They believe it will decrease illegal immigration, but more importantly they like the symbolism that Mexicans are not allowed here.

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His base likes the wall idea for two reasons. They believe it will decrease illegal immigration, but more importantly they like the symbolism that Mexicans are not allowed here.
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wait..how would the wall NOT decrease illegal immigration? If there is damn wall that cannot be crossed, how would it not decrease ? What other avenues is there for them to enter? Are you saying the wall has nothing to do with them running across the freeway to enter? Exactly in what location is this wall supposed to be located, then?

Nobody said Mexicans are not allowed here; it's not a black and white matter. For example, the Armenians (yes, Armenians) who mostly occupy a condo my mother owns are rude, wont' even look at you, territorial, and don't speak English hardly. That is no better. If you don't believe me, come over and take a glance. The difference is that they are not in the same category with Mexicans with regards to immigration -status, ruining communities. etc. I never said ALL Mexicans.

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"If there is damn wall that cannot be crossed, how would it not decrease ?"

Because there's no such thing as a wall that cannot be crossed, ya doofus.

The only thing a wall does is give you a false sense of security. While you are busy thinking "there's a wall there nobody can cross" along comes someone with a rope and climbs over it.

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Because there's no such thing as a wall that cannot be crossed, ya doofus.
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How do you figure? You mean, all those fancy homes with walls serve no purpose? If a wall is structured at an inward-angle, you would be only climbing back into the space where you begin. The wall would not be steeped like a mountain. Why do you think walls of any nature are built, for kicks?

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"You mean, all those fancy homes with walls serve no purpose?"

If we're just talking about stealing, a wall is a deterrent to make you pick another house. The real protection is in the security alarm system that makes the criminal fear they will be caught. A wall would be a complete joke of a replacement for any security system.

The only thing a wall will accomplish is people crossing with rope or ladder, or crossing somewhere else like Texas. Even Trump knows there are parts of Texas where a wall cannot be built.

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ah yeah..the other reason why it's a "deterrent" is because it's damn hard to scale a wall.

Maybe the poor impoverished Mexicans can haul their wall-climbing paraphernalia, or trampoline their way up. I dont' see them throwing a big strong rope with a hook 50 ft up, like 1967's Batman. Maybe we can build an alligator-moat on the other side for good measure.

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The only thing a wall does is give you a false sense of security. While you are busy thinking "there's a wall there nobody can cross" along comes someone with a rope and climbs over it.
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Really, lets see you do it. Get out your little rope and just lasso it across the top somehow, and slide on up. You have no concept of reality. You're mad because a wall will keep out their self-entitled asses, and that threatens you for some reason.

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20 posts in the history of an account that was mostly dormant for 20 days and now attached to the ass of this OP who came out of nowhere. Yep--no suspicious sock activity to be seen here...

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None whatsoever! And this new poster sounds remarkably like Bubba, doesn't he/she?

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Bubba is like the Bubba from Forrest Gump only a troll version:


"I know everything there is to know about trollin' a forum. You can flood it, sock it, recruit it, resurrect old threads, make identical new threads, bait threads, flame threads, lie threads, racist threads, political threads, stalker threads".

This Bubba, however, isn't an expert in trolling like Bubba from Forrest Gump was an expert in shrimping.

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Typical Trumper behavior. Two posts in a row where he strokes ProductionNow's ego right when ProductionNow is struggling to convince anyone that a wall can actually work.

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Make America Gentrified Again, MAGA

I'm 41, to toss in another answer for that one.

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You're not going to convince anyone of anything if you blame the ills of the world on "brown people." You sound just as ignorant as the libiots blaming everything on straight white males. Generalizations about groups of people don't win in wars of ideas. The only color people should be concerned with is green, as in, who has all the money and what are they doing to manipulate things so they can keep that money? This is the ONLY thing us poor folks on the ground need to be concerned with. Working people are NOT the enemy of other working people.

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I wish he would build a wall, a huge wall, around HIMSELF!!!

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How original!
At least with a wall around himself, he would not have to deal with the real veiled-ugliness in the world.

Just what, what has he done to you? What has been taken away from you? It's just "fun" to hate him because of OTHER things he has said or done. This topic is about the wall, nothing else. So, since the wall won't go up, you take a job as a border agent and shoot to kill when certain people flee across the friggin highway to enter the U.S. Be a good aim, now.

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"he would not have to deal with the real veiled-ugliness in the world. "

You mean the ugliness he USED and propagated to convince the scared little rabbits of this country to vote a game show host as President?

You HAVE heard the things he's said about Mexicans, Muslims, women, Democrats, his erstwhile Attorney General, any journalist who doesn't heap praise upon him, etc., right?

He's an emotionally stilted man-child who appeals to people afraid of taking responsibility for their own lots in life.

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He's an emotionally stilted man-child who appeals to people afraid of taking responsibility for their own lots in life.
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And illegally crossing the border of another country and disobeying the law is "taking responsibility for their own lots in life". That's what thieves say also.


You HAVE heard the things he's said about Mexicans, Muslims, women, Democrats, his erstwhile Attorney General, any journalist who doesn't heap praise upon him, etc., right?
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Are you able to separate the parts from the whole? I know Frogarama is incapable, but can you?

You see, everything is not black or while; all or nothing. You can agree with at least one thing a given person does, without agreeing with everything they do. That's true in our everyday lives also. And you need not like someone personally in order to like one sole thing that they do. This really needs to be explained to people?

I'd say most of the sheep on the board just love to argue and disagree because they are hypocrites, or Mexican. That would be a simpler explanation.

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And I can say you're a racist...because you say racist things like your last sentence.
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And you're desperate, so like a typical immature poster, you resort to the term "racist". You must be "racist" to condone ILLEGAL activity by another country/race. Do you live in LOS ANGELES? So, you're racist against Caucasians?


What DIRECT IMPACT has an illegal immigrant had on your life? Go on, tell me. I DARE you.
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You "dare" me? How old are you, really? If you lived in LOS ANGELES, you would know what IMPACT it has had.

And you should not just care about things that only affect YOU, but generations to come (like your children). But no, it's the typical "if it doesn't affect me personally, it doesn't matter". If you saw a bloodied person (or animal) suffering on the sidewalk, that doesn't directly have an IMPACT on you either--but you might consider helping them. If you know a person is being abused, that does not have an IMPACT on your life either, but you might still care about them.
.. you're depressing.

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Exactly, you don't live in L.A. Why are you even on the board if you are not informed about illegal immigration? In that case, you should know by watching the news, reading, looking at statistics, etc. But that would take too much time for our attention-deficit millennials.

I am not obligated to explain the impact illegal immigration has had to each and every poster, or I would be typing all day. Those who live in L.A. already know. And L.A. did not "breed" me-- I am not originally from CA.

And young whites cannot find jobs because Mexican have taken most of them (the jobs you say are "beneath" others). The SAME jobs are being done by Caucasians in every other state.

I wrote a long post and you did not answer one question that I asked of you, but you expect me to answer each and all of your questions. Who the F raises you people to be so self-centered and entitled? This is why I said you are depressing. And you're wasting my time because you're young/ ignorant (or appear that way). Actually, I shouldn't even be patronizing you.

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If you knew about illegal immigration, then would not be acting uninformed about it, and asking what impact it has. You likely don't' even know the land area and subdivisions L.A. has, as you sit there and insult the city. You would not know the "truth" if you were sitting on it.

Now I will stoop to your level, and tell you to get lost. However, if you afflicted with autism/Aspergers, then I should keep that in mind when replying in general, in order to make allowances..

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Lay off the orange kool-aid there, tiger--it just killed the only brain cell you had left.

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Only stupid people can support the stupid wall idea.
Why?
Because if walls worked, there would be no need for prison guards.

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Let Pink Floyd build the ridiculous wall!
Trumps bad reality show is killing me!

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Good one!!!

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Why can't Trump just get his billionaire buddies to pay for it? Why does it have to Democrats? And what happened to Mexico paying for it?

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Another one of his many, many lies. The sooner he is gone the better!

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The poor guy wont even put up some of his own money to build the wall. Just shows you how much he really cares about it. "Me pay for some of it? No way! I got my sheep making a gofundme page!"

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Yes, the sooner Trump is gone, the sooner you can either find some other target who doesn't support handouts, and you can live in your fantasy world. And with the juvenile 5-word elementary-school replies from posters on the board, it's evident they have nothing to contribute.

You people don't care about the wall one way or the other, actually. It's more the fact that certain foreigners who act like children and think they can just demand whatever they want, is acceptable to you. "I want to walk through, so I will" "Waaaaugggh", as they stomp their feet. Ya bunch of wimps

Now go find another reason to blame one Donald Trump, like the fact that your store ran out of Gatorade.

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Your bullshit is boring, because you don't say anything at all. Hell, you don't even use proper English, it must not be your first language.

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Your bullshit is boring, because you don't say anything at all. Hell, you don't even use proper English, it must not be your first language.
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Nobody with self-respect cares what you find boring; things don't revolve around you. Your meaningless-replies based in denial and name-calling makes you a "troll".

Your typical juvenile retorts (cliches) are boring, so you must be semi-illiterate. You said nothing at all. Hell, you're part of the sheep and don't even know what simple-mindedness means. Buy a dictionary and look up: 'cliches' and 'simpleminded'.



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Yep, if you're getting defensive and whiny over what I posted, then you just described yourself (but want a free pass for it).

What and who do you "support"? Are you able to speak in concrete terms instead of typical pretentious rhetoric, or would that defeat you? Do you know what concrete terms means? If you are incapable, then it's you, and your friends on the board, who have been brainwashed like I am accused of being.

According to the sheep on the board, people don't have a mind of their own--and must have been brainwashed by Donald Trump. People don't even have to actually listen to each and every board he says to understand why he is against ILLEGALS. Do you know what the word "legal" means, or is that word no longer in use?

( Or, you may all be defensive biased Mexicans, and that would be a much simpler reason for the hypocrisy. Trump hits too close to home for most of you)

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I'm neither defensive nor whiny. I'm thoroughly enjoying triggering a small minded xenophobe like you over and over. Every time I post...I'm laughing at you.
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You did it again: acting like a spoiled bratty child who quickly uses juvenile insults which are meaningless, and cannot put more than 2 sentences together. You're a kid playing around with the computer, or equivalent.





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I doubt that there is, and you can tell just by the way the headline is worded that he is imitating Trump's mindless way of speaking.

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