https://youtu.be/y7yeZiK0weo
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https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/north-dakota-man-sentenced-5-years-prison-running-103042287
So strange how rape is worse than taking extinguishing a life. Even if it's just manslaughter you'd think it'd at least be more than rape since the person still is living and can continue on while when you're dead, no more you.
rape is pretty bad. good they finally set an example
shareYou and I wouldn't be here if it wasn't for rape. It's how humans and every mammal on EARTH have had sex for hundreds of thousands of years. Giving woman an opinion and a say is what is actually pretty bad, as proven by Masterson's Judge.
shareBut it is not 15,000 BC and we are far more emotionally evolved than that time. We all want respect and our well being looked out for. Not allowing rape is part of that. Now leveraging law so a person can extort another person such as claiming false rape is as bad as any other crime out there.
shareWhy are you using technology to type your message? You should write with your hand. It's how humans on EARTH have communicated for hundreds of thousands of years.
shareEven more than that, many of us STILL write on paper with our hands even in this day and age of highly developed digital technology. I can sort of see the point you're making samo but it is a little off base here, what with many differences in our sexuality and whatnot. With differences in MORALITY attached to it all as well.
Besides...
The r-worded deed is terrible for many reasons including physical pain it causes more so than consensual sex does, for how including for a woman one must PREPARE for sexual activity and whatnot.
Also...
Yeah, in past history our laws and for that matter knowledge of such matters were different. But even then I suppose we already knew or at least SUSPECTED certain things in our sexual areas. So saying openly and declaring "We wouldn't be here if it wasn't for that" is on many levels INCORRECT as well...
And many things perhaps existed in distant past that today would be legally and morally frowned upon as well, for obvious reasons to boot. We have evolved into moral beings and we recognized legal necessities in our lives as well.
shareAre you some kind of fucking idiot?
shareSo your dad is a rapist. Being the product of rape must be tough for a kid, I'm sorry you went through that.
sharestuff your sorrys in a sack mister. Your great great great great grandfather and everyone before him was a rapist and everyone from Asia is literally a Genghis Khan rape baby. The more you try to rip on and insult people, the more you come off sounding like a retard.
shareAnd you are clearly a Macho troll. ☺
shareYou need to commit yourself to a mental institution ASAP cause you are crazy.
shareThis is your brain on modern media. Turn the TV off, seek sunlight and touch grass. Or better yet....nah...I'll bite my tongue on that one.
shareOh please. I refuse to watch the news cause anything Joe Biden or J.B Pritzker has to say makes me angry.
shareYou've clearly been influenced by a roastie agenda that has seeped into your brain by media, education, and social pressure. Women today use their pussies as currency. That's what they've decided to do with their liberated sexual freedom and civil rights (something that has gone on for centuries, before they demanded freedom, but were condemned and ostracized for it).
If someone tries to steal their currency, calling that rape is crossing the line/overexaggeration. When someone steals a wallet, they aren't treated like a MONSTER. So get with the times. Today's version of rape, is nothing more than some guy bird dogging. Women wanting to be gold digging whores, have to face the consequences. They have bastardized the word rape, and shouldnt get away with it. Unless they are forcibly held down while screaming out, and getting their pussy pulverize where blood appears, it's NOT rape. But I'm wasting my breath, because you're already brainwashed into simping for any woman that cries RAPE! when someone ugly looks at them, or someone hot doesn't meet their demands after sex.
You are crazy and I do not wish to read any of your posts. Good bye.
shareAgreed.
shareThe OP wants to know why it is seen as worse than murder.
shareIn my opinion rape is just as bad as murder, possibly worse, in that a rape has the very likely potential of killing someone’s spirit and that they must now carry that deceased part of them for the rest of their life. Think of it this way, would you rather live out your life as a paraplegic/quadriplegic, or slip away before your time is up. I would wager many people given the choice would accept death than live out their life in such a state of being. It’s just something to consider, but imo there are many things in this life worse than death. I’m by no means down playing murder, I’m simply pointing out that the murder of the spirit is just as bad and possibly worse than that of our physical bodies.
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I don't disagree, but murderers should get automatic life or the death penalty.
The problem with with a lot of rape convictions is that it is done with evidence that would not even warrant an indictment if it was murder.
I agree with your sentiments on the degree of justice that should accompany a murder conviction, and it is certainly disconcerting that murder convictions are often played out with people eligible for parole in sometimes 15 years, pending on the cushioning of the plea deal.
share"The problem with with a lot of rape convictions is that it is done with evidence that would not even warrant an indictment if it was murder."
In other words - murder is simply easier to prove systematically in a court of law, correct?
And the two matters and deeds just have their DIFFERENT NUANCES including ones that are recognized in law.
shareIn other words - murder is simply easier to prove systematically in a court of law, correct?
So what IS the difference then here, between "substantial" and "circumstantial"? And why can't murder use the latter as well as the former?
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Let's try it this way - suppose two women of your acquaintance claim to have seen you murder someone 15 years ago. The police investigate and find there's no evidence of you killing anyone - evidence like your DNA at the scene or a weapon that can be traced to you, or even security video of you driving on the same street as the deceased within the time frame of the murder. What will the DA do with that? Even if he believed the women's story, he would never bring that to court.
Proving a rape years later would not be impossible using the same standard as a murder would require. Even if a woman immediately called a friend or mother and said she was raped, it still comes down strictly to hearsay evidence, something that would never lead to a conviction for murder, much less an indictment.
OK, I get it, but then I kind of wonder, with the r-worded matter, does it REALLY work like that, whether occasionally or for the most part? But then again, wouldn't police or DAs or whoever still investigate that matter to look for some or other evidence in order to arrest let alone convict the suspected guilty party of it?
Even then, I still sort of see the two matters as operating a bit differently in how they are proven in the court of law.
But then, even though for some there maybe life long consequences, don't some other victims of this deed actually either recover, heal from it or at least cease the suffering through time whereas with murder no such recovery at all is possible?
And isn't murder also physically painful and loss of life through pre-meditated taking of it arguably the worst offense possible?
And how does the "murder of spirit" in here literally work as in this particular case, and does it happen in other violent offenses or just sexual ones as such?
"In my opinion rape is just as bad as murder, possibly worse, in that a rape has the very likely potential of killing someone’s spirit and that they must now carry that deceased part of them for the rest of their life. Think of it this way, would you rather live out your life as a paraplegic/quadriplegic, or slip away before your time is up. I would wager many people given the choice would accept death than live out their life in such a state of being. It’s just something to consider, but imo there are many things in this life worse than death. I’m by no means down playing murder, I’m simply pointing out that the murder of the spirit is just as bad and possibly worse than that of our physical bodies."
Sigh, dear God.
We human being really are sexually sensitive creatures, aren't we? Not saying its good or bad but just an undeniable fact of life, correct?
shareDon't rape, don't go to jail. Problem solved.
shareYeah, we know it already, thanks. Plus, may crimes are also not allowed and people WILL go to jail for them, but people sadly still do it. Including murder.
And I think some folks here wanted to know not just why people may get legally sentenced for it but why the sentences like 30 YEARS or so happen...
Also, did you notice for instance that in films, we often see that if the perpetrators of such a deed escape legal punishment, the pursuit for justice in such a department does NOT end there, and we often see VIOLENT REVENGE scenarios like in the "I Spit on Your Grave" (and many OTHER as such movies, we aren't talking a few films here but decades of genre oriented cinematic history) where usually male perpetrators of such deed get violently attacked and even killed in vengeance for their deeds.
And I read, for many decades mind you, various audiences and critical opinions who cheered when this happened, thinking that the guilty bastards deserved it.
It wasn't just about escaping legal punishment, but violent retribution from the loved and bereaved parties involved.
Yes I DO get it that they shouldn't do it in the first place, that's an obvious given. And people shouldn't MURDER innocent people and even violently attack others EITHER, but, besides law and whatnot, ever wonder, can we ever change human nature to fit such standards? And oh well...
Speaks of this matter as being generally serious in ways that often goes BEYOND the 'law' - though nothing against law as such anyways.
Wow, a full page of stuff there.
shareAnd its difficult for many I see to discuss this topic without openly either stating the already obvious, or others going to an extreme direction, or to answer perhaps comprehensively about why it is or even is it worse than murder (as bad and obviously unacceptable as it IS though) and online to constantly get into arguments with others etc whereas for instance for some other topics, people somehow manage to stay calm and normal.
shareMasterson didn't take the stand. I believe if he did AND he had a better defense lawyer, his chances would have improved.
shareif you kill a person, at least he is not suffering.
shareThe crime system is ludicrous. There's a point you cross where you're better off, after doing whatever horrible stuff you just did, killing everybody involved and burying them in the woods and rolling the dice. Cause if they catch you, you're gonna do less time than if you left your victims standing.
shareBoth are serious charges.
The justice system isn't always just.