why is it wrong to make race/people specific movies?

It was a lengthy OP , with some elaborate metaphors
I particularly enjoyed the speed boat one .

but I lost track of what you're pissed off about

Is it women, gays or blacks?


" Films are made for specific audiences."
Are you saying you cant enjoy a film with a black man in the lead, becasue you are a white man?
Are you further saying there are not enough films with white folk in for you?

looks like many honest and decent replies here, thanks for the feedback, and I look forward to reading and discussing more, like civilized humans that can do that. :)

"Blacks, women, Indian, gay, Asian, etc can make race/group specific, but whites can not?"

You mean like "12 Angry Men"? "The Fight Club"? "Wolf on Wall Street"? Every John Wayne movie? "Frozen"? "21"? "The Irishmen"? "1917"? "“Ford v Ferrari”" 95%+ of movies?

A better question to ask is why do you have an entitled need to discriminate and want ALL movies to revolve around only whites? The norm for decades was white only movies. Nonwhites were purposely left out of movies or relegated to small stereotyped roles. Now, it's everyone else's turn to tell their stories.

BTW, most "white dude" movies were targeted for everyone, not just white dudes.

"One doesn't drink an orange soda pop and wonder, "Why isn't there more grape and vanilla and root beer and alcohol and tea flavor in this?""

You're basically saying that there should be segregation because race-mixing isn't normal. Americans are diversified, therefore our movies reflect our diversity. Period.

Most movies made today have a worldwide audience which is mainly nonwhite.

Welcome to the 21st century!

I'm sure Polish or Hungarian movies are white-only. You could watch those.

I agree completely! What an excellent and thoughtful post!

Diversity itself is NOT a good thing. It's NOT a bad thing. It's neutral. Diversity itself creates NO advantage in any endeavor. Unlike the slogans from the Woke companies, diversity does NOT make us stronger. It does NOT make us weaker. It has no effect except to make the smug virtue signaling Leftists feel good.



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The point about making more money by appealing to more audiences is probably the best answer as to why diversified casting works better overall and is employed more these days.

But on top of that, media strongly shapes societal perceptions.

For example, Mae Jemison, the first black female astronaut, credits Star Trek and the character Lieutenant Uhura as her inspiration for her interest in space travel. So having diversity in film and TV is not only about representation, but also inspiration.

You stated that men didn’t show up for the reboot of Charlie’s Angels – which, to be fair, was a pretty average film. But you know what there are a lot of in this world? Average male-led action films that people showed up to see. The problem isn’t that they diversified the cast or upturned expectations regarding plot. The problem is that society as a whole isn't exposed to women in this kind of role at the same level as they are to men in the same role. It doesn’t matter if men realistically participate in more action-based activities than women irl because, were they represented in media, this would likely change irl. And that can be said about a lot of different groups of people.

I mean, just look at how many Superman based films and shows there are – at least 25 by my count. There’s one Wonder Woman TV show and 2 recent WW films. Is Superman simply more popular, or is he just more overexposed? The fact is that the former can only be true because the latter is true. In other words, how can we know we like something better when there’s nothing of equal visibility to compare it to?

I'll answer this with one sentence. People are dumb, and look for racism in everything.

If the race plays a role in the plot of the film or if the joke is about race, I don't see a problem with it. Overall it should serve a purpose, such as in Blazing Saddles, not only were the race jokes hilarious but they were also conveying how absurd racism was in the first place. What I disagree with however is throwing race in there just for the heck of it and I also disagree with it being OK to make race jokes one way but not the other.

As far as casting certain actors of specific races in certain roles, I think that the actor should be able to convey who the character is. For example if we were to make a biography about Dr. Martin Luther King it would be absurd to cast a white guy in the lead role. Same thing with James Bond, James Bond is a straight, white, misogynistic British male. The actor playing Bond should be: White, Male, able to speak in a believable British accent, be able to convincingly play a straight, misogynistic character.

Thanks for all the replies here! I'm out.
Post has exceeded its two day limit of reasonableness, and can only get unhinged here on out.

Good luck. Stay and fight pointlessly if you feel the urge, but I was happy to have a short discussion about the OP

Thanks to ALL (and I mean ALL) who responded with their input.