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Is it okay for breakfast menus at restaurants to be categorized by course?

posted 4 years ago by JustinJared (74)
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I want to start a restaurant, and want to know if you think it's appropriate to serve a breakfast menu with it's items categorized by course. Like, I want to serve a breakfast, lunch and dinner menu -- but when it comes to the breakfast menu, instead of serving a random array of items organized by other things versus courses -- I want to serve breakfast items organized by course like I plan to do with the dinner and lunch menu. Does that seem appropriate to you? Would you recommend that? Do you think that's stupid? What do you think? Why do you think that?

[–] ShogunofYonkers (71785) 4 years ago

I'd keep it simple for breakfast

2 eggs, hash browns, bacon and choice of toast
Maybe fried tomatoes or melon

Waffles, pancakes, bagels...etc

Now would probably be a bad time to open up an eatery...you may want to put your dreams on hold until all this virus stuff and looting calms down

Just my 2 cents

[–] JustinJared (74) 4 years ago

I see you guys uniformly agree that breakfast shouldn't involve courses, and for that I thank you for your opinions.

So now I have another question, I'm interested in choosing a name for my restaurant that will be easily remembered, simple, written easily, read easily, and spelled simply.

I want the name of the restaurant to be based on the main menu item that will be sold there -- which is going to be Meatloaf, and I want it to be named something with that name in the title. What do you think would be good names for the restaurant?

Some names I've thought of already are Meatloaf Haven, Meatloaf Mix, Meatloaf Mecca, Meatloaf Man, Meatloaf Loaf, Meatloaf Loaves, Meaty Meatloaf, Meatloaf House, Meatloaf Menu, Meatloaf Recipes, Meatloaf for sale, Meatloaf Manor, Meatloaf Dinner, and Meatloaf Diner

Do any of them sound adequate? Would you recommend any of them as a name? Should I use any of them?

[–] ShogunofYonkers (71785) 4 years ago

Baguette Out Of Hell?
Paradise By The Meatloaf Light??

[–] AndyKing1967 (33877) 4 years ago

Baguette Out Of Hell

If I ever open a Patisserie I am totally stealing this, lol.

[–] ShogunofYonkers (71785) 4 years ago

Yours for the taking!
I will expect a lifetime supply of fresh bread😃

[–] AndyKing1967 (33877) 4 years ago

Bread is the food of the devil - all those carbs - but who can resist?

[–] db20db (16209) 4 years ago

I once read that the pyramids were built on a diet of "beer and bread".

[–] AndyKing1967 (33877) 4 years ago

Whoever wrote that is my new favourite author.

[–] db20db (16209) 4 years ago

I've adopted that diet; it works, lol.

[–] 102000 (6130) 4 years ago

I think you seem to be going in all different directions. Anything with the word meatloaf in it sounds down home, casual, unpretentious, yet you were considering breakfast with courses. Very confusing. As much as I like meatloaf, it is not universally loved, especially by younger, more health conscious people.

Determine your demographic before going forward, but honestly I don't like any of your suggestions. Sorry

Also - are you really serious about this or simply daydreaming???? Do you have any experience in the restaurant business? If you don't, this probably isn't a path you should be going down.

[–] JustinJared (74) 4 years ago

I'm sorry I should have been more descriptive. What I'm planning to open is a casual dining place that serves meatloaf has his primary menu item, and prides itself on serving various variations of it.

But the reason why I was asking about breakfast is because I want the restaurant to be open for breakfast hours until dinner hours, and while I was sure that I would be serving meatloaf items during lunch and during dinner -- during breakfast I was trying to figure out what type of items should I sell, how should I sell them, how many should I sell, and how should I arrange them on the menu, and that's why I asked about courses.

Courses are traditionally found on lunch menus and dinner menus at a lot of restaurants, and I was wondering if I should organize my breakfast menu in that way as well, then maybe have some items on there that would have been meatloaf as well -- the things would be appropriate for breakfast -- but I didn't mention that before. I hope that clarifies things a little bit.

Thank you.

[–] 102000 (6130) 4 years ago

Again I ask if you have experience in the restaurant business? What kind of research have you done for this type of restaurant?

I have family who owns fast food franchises and I know how difficult the business is.

[–] Otter (24464) 4 years ago

Breaking even in the restaurant business was incredibly difficult even before the pandemic, do your research and form a serious business plan before you do anything else!

And read Anthony Bourdain's "Kitchen Confidential", his memoir and tell-all about his years working in the restaurant industry. There are probably better books, of course, and ones that tell you more about the business end of things, but "KC" is an entertaining and highly informative book, which every person considering a food-related career change should read.

[–] TalkinPikchorBox (2250) 4 years ago

Meatloaf doesn’t sound to breakfastee. Best advice I could give you coming from 25 plus years of experience is keep it simple stupid. Especially the menu! Big menu means bigger food orders. Lots of the times on big menus half the items never get ordered. So either food is being thrown out or froze which will decline the quality of service. Either way will cost you money. It aslo takes the customer longer to order. If you want high turnover you gotta get em in get em out.

Also hospitality is so fucking key. Try to hire servers that are always happy and energetic. Never let the BOH mingle to much with FOH. BOH a tendency to piss off FOH. Here’s why that can cost you. Lets say server goes to the kitchen and ask the grill guy a question. The grill guy could be in the weeds and tempers are flaring. Line cook could answer in a way that pisses off the server and now that server is going back to the table with bitch face. That server may now give the customer attitude which you have to worry about these days because of yelp. I always tell the FOH if they have any questions try and ask the chef or kitchen management as they are more trained to handle stressful situations.

If you want to do courses do courses. You can do whatever you want if you’re the owner and customers are happy. People love new concepts and originality, except this idea isn’t new. All that being said if you make good food it should sell. Good luck to you!

[–] MovieManCin2 (26342) 4 years ago

Damn. Now I'm hungry for breakfast.

😒

[–] nyctc7 (41280) 4 years ago

I never knew this existed:

3 course breakfast - https://www.chateaubourbon.com/breakfast
4 course breakfast - https://www.alexandermansionbb.com/amazing-4-course-breakfast/
5 course breakfast - https://www.turningwatersbandb.com/breakfast/
7 course breakfast - https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/wordofmouth/2011/jun/03/seven-course-breakfast

[–] Otter (24464) 4 years ago

WTF kind of B&B serves breakfast courses? Nobody really likes delays when they just want to get on with their day, particularly if they're sharing a table with undercaffinated strangers.

[–] R_Kane (15828) 4 years ago

95 percent of all restaurants go out of business within 5 years.

It doesn’t look good for you.

[–] moviechatterer (13307) 4 years ago

I have questions
Do breakfast "Courses" already exist? what are the names?

What are the names of midday and evening meal courses?

[–] TalkinPikchorBox (2250) 4 years ago

https://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g1846688-d949502-r366070435-Roots_restaurant-Krugersdorp_Greater_Johannesburg_Gauteng.html

[–] moviechatterer (13307) 4 years ago

"Excellent 5 course breakfast"

wow
includes fish!

[–] MovieManCin2 (26342) 4 years ago

Absolutely NOT! That's just CRAZY! If you see that, you must report it to the authorities AT ONCE! We can't have chaos!

😒

[–] ShogunofYonkers (71785) 4 years ago

We are TRYING to live in a society!!!

*George Costanza voice

[–] nyctc7 (41280) 4 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhe3RlzgTiQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2ZVW4yvchA

👍

[–] ShogunofYonkers (71785) 4 years ago

You totally get me😃!

[–] nyctc7 (41280) 4 years ago

I was a very active participant on the IMDb Seinfeld board!

[–] ShogunofYonkers (71785) 4 years ago

I'm watching right now
The ep where Elaine pranks Jerry on his tape recorder using her 'sexy voice'

This show is still
hilarious 20
years later!

[–] nyctc7 (41280) 4 years ago

👍👍👍

[–] MovieManCin2 (26342) 4 years ago

lol

😎

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12311) 4 years ago

That depends on a lot of factors, such as whether the restaurant serves breakfast at all (many do not), what is available for their cooks to make, and what kind of breakfast the customers want. The trouble is, after all these centuries, we have come up with an enormous variety of foods to eat in the morning, and it's highly variable, depending on whether the customer is in a hurry, follows any kind of diet, and if the restaurant specializes in anything (like IHOP and their pancakes).

Some restaurants only serve breakfast food, and offer a variety based on the dishes most popular in the country they're in (such as American restaurants serving American breakfast food). I remember visiting Denny's and the waiter will actually ask how you want your eggs, what kind of syrup you want on your pancakes/waffles, how you want your bacon, what kind of drink you want (they always have coffee, apple juice, and orange juice at these places). There are even some restaurants that let you build your own breakfast meal, like an omelette. I loved doing that at IHOP, though the omelette they gave me was enormous, so I chopped it in half, ate one half, and took the other home to eat later :D

[–] captainbucky (15252) 4 years ago

Isn’t that how it already works ?