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Her mother? Vanished. Her brothers, Sherlock and Mycroft? Useless. To solve this mystery, she'll go it alone.


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Here we have Enola Holmes solving mysteries, since she can't rely on her stupid useless brothers. You know the usual drill.

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Netflix scoring woke points again.

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I watched it and it wasn't too bad. Of course the seemingly obligatory woke lecturing intruded from time to time but it wasn't a deal breaker.

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Poor old Sherlock has been a punching bag for years. They're probably gonna make a whole bunch of these movies. Really grind his bones to dust.

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Kids outsmarting and outshining the grownups has been a trope in fiction for *decades.* Tell me that you honestly didn't get any satisfaction from seeing that kind of thing in the movies when you were a kid.

I really don't see what that in itself has to do with "wokeness." But "woke" seems to have become the default complaint for "anything I don't like." 🙄

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"Tell me that you honestly didn't get any satisfaction from seeing that kind of thing in the movies when you were a kid."

I can honestly say that I almost never got any satisfaction from that. It was usually eyeroll-inducing. Precocious kids just bug the hell out of me, especially if they have an attitude.

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You must not like many 80s kids movies.

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I dislike most kids movies.

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You wouldn't like Mysterious Cities of Gold, my personal favourite 80s cartoon, where the main trio of kids is constantly outsmarting adults and showing them up to be incompetent... but not in an unbearable way, these children are rather talented.

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I did sometimes see that show, but I was never a fan. That dark kid with the helmet hair was unbearable.

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Tao happens to be my favourite male cartoon character of all time, from ANY show or movie. I just find him so fascinating, and his ancestors.

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Well, to each his own!

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He watched foreign films since the age of 5, you guys!

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Who is he?

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The one who said he never liked kids movies.

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The one is a she not a he.

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Yeah, who is "he"?

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You.

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One, I'm not a he.

Two, I actually have mostly watched foreign movies since I was 5. That's what happens when your own country's movie industry isn't exactly thriving. If you're suggesting that I didn't watch kids movies when I was a kid, you're assuming something that wasn't even implied.

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Kids outsmarting and outshining the grownups has been a trope in fiction for *decades.*

It's not the same.

It's true that in young adult fiction the (grownups) villains are often portrayed as stupid. However, the rest of grownups are usually quite smart and they aren't negatively portrayed. The problem is that they're often busy doing grownup things and can't waste time investigating really important issues as whether the new neighbor is a one thousand years old evil wizard. So it's up to the kids to save the day.

Obviously, grownups don't always have their priorities in the right position (and to be honest, there's some truth in that 😆)

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>But "woke" seems to have become the default complaint for "anything I don't like." 🙄

More like anything involving women and minorities.

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Recently I rewatched the Sherlock Holmes series starring Jeremy Brett. Great stuff.

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Best Holmes portrayal and most accurate adaptions of the original stories hands down!

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I always preferred Basil Rathbone, myself.

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Absolutely true.

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Performance of a lifetime by Jeremy Brett, we’ll mostly likely not see such a close portrayal of Holmes again. Great production too.

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I did like the young sherlock holmes 1985 movie

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090357/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_81

Thought Nicholas Rowe did good as a young sherlock and Alan cox as young watson was actually quite good - it was fictional and not a portrayal but then they should have done a few movies with them.

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To this day, I've never seen that all the way through, I like the casting of Holmes though.

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Its more an action/adventure movie then a murder mystery but Nicholas Rowe definitely had a mature look to him and was a good Holmes.

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I like Ian Richardson's portrayal.

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Its basically another movie pushing feminist bullshit. Sherlock Holmes, someone considered the best detective in fictional history, is put down as "useless", so his made up sister (he never had one in the original books), suddenly can do better! If they were smart they would have made it so he is out of the country on a job or something. But nooooo, gotta put down the men to lift the women up so they look stronger! WTF is wrong with having a female lead, be stronger on her own and NOT make all the men look like weaklings.

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Oh no!!! Not another movie showing women being smart!! Won't someone PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN????

Seriously. How many years of stories, movies, books, and tv have we had where women were just there to make the men look good, and to look good for the men? Where women served no purpose other than to look good and sleep with the hero, be bimbos, be the villain, or to be at home waiting for the smart, manly man to come home from his adventures to sleep with him?

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The children’s book is told from Enola’s perspective

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It's a series of several books, as I recall.

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Indeed. I read that this film is adapted from book one in the series.

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Think I'll stick with The Baker Street Boys if I wanna see kids helping Sherlock Holmes rather than this crap.

Baker Street Boys was an 80’s kids show from the BBC that was inspired by the Baker Street Irregulars who featured in a few Sherlock Holmes adventures, unlike Enola Holmes.

https://youtu.be/lh92MrS7GkM

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I never watched it. It looks interesting and well done.

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Do you cry every time girls handle themselves without the assistance of any men?

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Not even close to what the OP is getting at but of course you know that.

Keep simping.

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Wokeness is a modern religion

And you know what House said...
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I know exactly what OP really means.

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Do you cry every time girls handle themselves without the assistance of any men?

Nope, but wokes like you definitely do.

Otherwise, woke shows wouldn't need to portray males as useless cucks or psychopaths to (allegedly) "promote" women. Wokes actually have a extremely negative image of women: you wokes think so poorly of women that you're convinced that the only way to make women look valuable is to portray all men around as full retarded.

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WOke woKe wokE cUck WokE woke Retard woke

You sound like a 12 years old repeating what he sees on social media.

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WOke woKe wokE cUck WokE woke Retard woke. You sound like a 12 years old repeating what he sees on social media.

To talk about a concept we need a term that refers to that concept.

To talk about Christians you need the term "Christian" or equivalent. To talk about Wokes you need the term "Woke" or equivalent. This is how language works.

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That "term" is dumb.

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