Don't claim that paedos are only ever liberal or Democrat, you know both sides are guilty!
shareBad people come in all different shapes and sizes, difference is, the libturds are pushing for the acceptance of pedos. they managed to get the public to accept homos, then trannies, now they are pushing faggotry on very young innocent children. its like that frog burning experiment, if u boil the water the frog doesn't realize the severity of the situation till things are deadly. the left is coming after the children now. they really are demonrats...
shareWho says that? QAnon, which is anti-liberal, anti-Democrat and just wants to accuse them because QAnon are conservative?
sharethere are literally videos of biden touching kids on camera during a senate family photoshoot. They are coming for the children just look at any loonie libturded city and watch the trannie child reading shit. the libturds are grooming children...
shareThe recent video of Biden nibbling on the baby girl's shoulder as she squirms to avoid him is creepy as hell. Stupid, senile motherfucker is a total pedo.
shareReality says that.
Remember Cuties? Remember sexualized shows with Queers for kids AND with kids?
Remember the push for porn literature in school?
All that by the democrats ...
https://twitter.com/JoeyMannarinoUS/status/1673091985018609666
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/pride-celebrations-a-disgusting-month-of-naked-men-twerking-for-innocent-kids/
https://www.foxnews.com/media/graphic-drag-show-babies-featuring-nearly-naked-men-bondage-outrages-twitter-absolutely-abhorrent
https://nypost.com/2022/10/18/video-of-drag-queen-gyrating-next-to-child-sparks-backlash/
Prepare for all of your evidence to be dismissed out of hand then ignored!
share"Prepare for all of your evidence to be dismissed out of hand then ignored!"
Not at all, I agree that this sort of thing should NOT be allowed - heck, in fact, I didn't even know they allowed little kids and babies to see grown twerking men like that! It's almost like the parents are trying to indoctrinate them to accept it! They'll be removing the underage restrictions on sexual movies on streaming services next!!
Ok well fair play to you for taking a look and not just ignoring it. You know there's a reason the whole "OK groomer" became a thing right? The right wing aren't the ones holding these drag events and parades with kids involved and the right wing aren't the ones defending these events, that's all coming from the left wing. This stuff has been going on for years now, the claims of grooming didn't just spring out of nowhere.
shareI see now.
That's great that you even looked! I think I may have been too harsh on you in the past over other politics but I am so glad we can at least agree on something like this.
The trouble is anyone who talks out about this grooming stuff gets labelled "far right" or "nazi" or "bigots" or "homophobes" or any of the other usual slurs that are just used to shut down dissent -
https://www.optionsri.org/post/socialists-antifa-and-a-leftist-militia-defend-drag-story-time-in-fall-river
On January 14, a crowd of 100 - 200 activists and community members gathered outside Fall River Public Library to stop Nazis, right-wing extremists, and at least one local Republican official from disrupting the monthly Drag Story Time event put on by the Fall River Pride Committee.
Dozens of right-wingers, including members of the far-right group Proud Boys
“It takes a lot for these people to accept that they are bigots and homophobes,”
Many on the right have falsely accused LGBT+ people of radicalising children with slurs such as “groomer”
In the UK too, don't just think this is happening stateside
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/22/british-extremists-us-right-family-drag-shows-children
British extremists are importing tactics from the US hard right. Their target? Family drag shows
Nazi
shareWait..... you mean crime exists everywhere, and not just one side of a political spectrum? Wow never had any idea. Thank you.
Mean while this movie exists, is already out there, and all your bashing of it makes you look bad, and is totally pointless.
Did you know there are left wing ELECTION DENIERS as well? Quick! Go and alert the people!
shareLike Hillary :D
shareNah.
shareYeah, she didn’t want to accept the 2016 elections results. Plus Russia conspiracy. Plus bla bla.
https://www.factcheck.org/2019/03/factchecking-clintons-voter-suppression-claims/
Clinton called Trump an illegitimate president.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-trump-is-an-illegitimate-president/2019/09/26/29195d5a-e099-11e9-b199-f638bf2c340f_story.html
And btw:
https://nypost.com/2023/05/15/durham-proves-that-hillary-and-the-fbi-tried-to-rig-the-2016-election/
We do know for a fact that FBI shields the democrats…
Please update us on how many lawsuits she filed and how many times she gathered groups together to try to overturn the election.
shareSo if I believe that the election was rigged but I don’t open a lawsuit I’m not a denier? Really?
Democrats are really dumb …
I'm just playing some "whataboutism" like you guys always do. Anyone can bitch about an election. Filing lawsuits and trying to strongarm politicans to hand it to you afterwards is what I'd call real election denial. Republicans are really dumb.
share"I'm just playing some "whataboutism""
We don't.
You asked, I answered on point. There was NO whatboutit.
You fail. Like always.
BTW, I'm not a republican either. More like a "fuck them both" centrist.
"We don't."
Hahaha! That's all you guys do! That's why Hillary is even in this conversation! Republicans really are the dumbest people on earth. And lots of Republican-at-heart people like to consider themselves "centrists." They aren't.
You are more stupid than the law allows.
"Did you know there are left wing ELECTION DENIERS as well? Quick! Go and alert the people!"
This is why Hillary is in this conversation YOU idiot.
But you're right, it IS a whataboutism, only that it comes from YOUR side you imbecile!!!
You sound like a right-winger, just shouting insults at the top of your lungs with no logic behind your screaming. Carry on.
shareThose are not insults, just observations.
You obviously cannot follow a conversation, can’t understand context and lack even the basic logic. Like all leftists.
Goodnight.
Go scrawl "Trump2024" on a messageboard somewhere.
shareYou prove again how stupid you are.
Trump is an idiot and should had never been a president. As a matter of fact I don't see ANY from the republicans as a decent president but any would be better than Trump..
The problem is that democrats insist to push individuals that are even worse than Trump for president, like Hillary or Biden.
It's pretty sad that US has as the only options Biden and Trump. And idiots like you unconditionally support one or the other.
I didn't vote for Hillary, but she's not worse than Trump. Look how stupid you're proving yourself, saying "idiots like you unconditionally support" Biden and Hillary. I didn't vote for either and don't support either.
shareAre you just much of an imbecile???
You are unconditionally supporting Hillary in this thread you imbecile, against all facts.
When you deny all facts about Hillary and your argument is an whatboutism about Trump ... that's EXACTLY what you're doing you stupido.
Name call some more. Typical Trumptard-type.
I don't support her. I also don't call her an "election denier." That's what Trumptards do. I guess that's too nuanced for you.
No, that's you showing unconditioned support.
You are like "I don't support her but I lick her boots. And her arsehole, but I surely don't support her"
Bullshit, lies, deception.
So if I don't call her an election denier, then I "unconditionally support her?" That's the most ridiculous statement I've heard in a long time. You need to reaccess your own objectivity, because you don't have any.
shareHillary can go f herself, I didn't like her neither.
The left is pushing to have sex with minors legal and mainstream. The outrage is not regarding individuals- there is a court system for that, the outrage is due to organized attempts to normalize the behavior.
share"The left" isn't pushing for "sex with minors." Maybe your right-wing web sites can find a single example of someone pushing for that, but it's not an organized attempt. It's also not true of 90% of the crap the right is accusing the left of doing. Meanwhile, the right is banning and actually having book burnings, denying the holocaust, trying to overturn democracy, and accepting the support of white supremacists. If you can generalize, I can too.
shareYes they are infinity.
shareOmg yeah they are...are you blind?
shareI guess I am blind, since I'm left and I sure as hell don't support sex with minors. I guess you could say this info is coming from the horse's mouth, but you'd rather take some web site's word for it?
shareYes you are blind, likely on purpose. Just a question: have you ever been wrong before? Do you feel like even if it has never happened before that it cannot happen?
https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/11/18/the-lefts-appalling-efforts-to-normalize-pedophilia/
https://www.foxnews.com/media/washington-post-slammed-normalizing-minimizing-pedophilia-they-have-become-part-the-depravity
https://heidelblog.net/2022/01/the-normalizing-of-pedophilia-continues/
https://www.dailywire.com/news/walsh-how-left-normalizing-pedophilia-right-front-matt-walsh
https://dailycaller.com/2017/05/05/how-the-alt-left-promotes-rape-and-pedophilia/
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2015/09/21/heres-why-the-progressive-left-keeps-sticking-up-for-pedophiles/
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9196192/
Try actually READING these articles and learn about who you are supporting.
I don't read right-wing trash. It's not "information." And... an IMDB link to a movie? lol Ridiculous.
Do you have a real source?
Typical ignorant lefty reply. How long before you just start screaming bigot?
shareDon't be a bigot and I won't.
It's a "typical" response because that's exactly what you linked. Right-wing trash sites. Think for yourself for once.
He wants a CNN link lol
shareDoesn't have to be. Could have been any reputable organization that's not right-wing. Unfortunately, all of those opinion articles are from right-wing web sites. There's no objectivity at all. Just more right-wing nonsense. If you want to just read what you already believe, those are good sites to regurgitate it.
shareAnd by reputable you mean disseminators of fake news. CNN et al are government mouthpieces and you're a fool for not realizing it.
shareI'm not talking about CNN, which leans slightly left. The links you listed (Daily Wire, Daily Caller, Breitbart, Daily Signal, etc) are all HARD RIGHT sources that just feed you what you want to read. They're are not reputable sources, not even close. Garbage in, garbage out.
shareReputable to who though? Y0u need to understand that we don't consider your sources to be of any value primarily because it has been proven that they are on the take and control of the government. You think that thinking for one's self means to swallow whatever mainstream media tells you- that dog don't hunt. In the end if and when your sources manage to slip the facts and truths by the PTB I consider them. Whatever the story I research it and MSM is not interested in giving us facts. I don't consider the sou8rces I listed as gospel either- again I do my own research.,
shareWait... slightly left? lol
shareI guess if you only read right-wing sources, a right-winger will never be disappointed. I am having a discussion with a right-winger currently, right on this message board, that believed Trump wasn't in the Epstein flight logs. You guys are very susceptible to misinformation because of these unreliable sources.
shareWell I guess if if all you do is read leftists rags then that's what you will have a taste for. Notice only one of us has claimed an interest in the facts and has mentioned that they don't take anyone at their word.
share1. I agree with your sentiment about "leftist rags."
2. It's not true that only one of us has claimed an interest in the facts. Both of us have claimed that, but only one of us posted a bunch of biased "news" sources as his "facts."
Biased according to a fool that the PTB has a leash on though. Can you quote me where you mentioned to me that you care about facts and don't put blind faith in you leftists sources?
share"Can you quote me where you mentioned to me that you care about facts and don't put blind faith in you leftists sources?"
How about in the post you were replying to, where I said, "I agree with your sentiment about 'leftist rags.'" I am skeptical of any info from extremist web sites, whether it be DailyKOS or Breitbart. Usually they are extremely biased, at a minimum, and often wrong. That's why I'd never quote them as a source. Only a partisan fool would do that.
As far as Russian assets, pee tapes, and Hunter's laptop, those are all pertinent news stories. I'm not sure why you'd be upset that reputable, and mainstream, news outlets reported on them. It would be crazy not to report on them.
"the fact that you ignore that and continue believing them establishes that you have no interest in facts or truths, only confirmation bias."
Ha! Says the guy posting Breitbart and Daily Caller as his sources for information! Comedy gold.
So the post you made saying you care about facts and don't put blind faith in leftist sources is the response you gave me to my question about where you said it? Yeah- that doesn't work bro.
The problem with reporting on those proven lies is that your sources took them as facts and did not question them- which is expected from those on the payroll of the government of course.
At one point you claim to be skeptical of certain sources but in practice you immediately dismiss any and everything those sources publish, which is a logical fallacy known as ad hominem. It's the argument being made that should be weighed and measured every time and to make it about the source means you have little chance to discern truth from fiction. It's called 'contempt prior to investigation'.
More ad hominem? The hallmark of one that couldn't recognize facts if they were a growth on his face.
"The problem with reporting on those proven lies is that your sources took them as facts and did not question them- which is expected from those on the payroll of the government of course."
You don't know my sources. I haven't mentioned them, but they're better than the rags you're throwing out there. And will these sources you're talking about still be on the "payroll of the government" when the government changes from one party to the other? Or are they truth-tellers then?
"At one point you claim to be skeptical of certain sources but in practice you immediately dismiss any and everything those sources publish, which is a logical fallacy known as ad hominem."
Claiming to be skeptical of a source, then dismissing what they say-- is consistent, and makes sense. However, I don't dismiss "any and everything" these poor sources report. Just a majority of it. Once a source proves itself to be partisan and unreliable, you'd be foolish to keep using it.
I think you need a definition of ad hominem. Here's the link you posted earlier:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem
I don't need to know your sources- if I dismissed them as your do by name I would be no better than you.
Being skeptical is not being dismissive, it means that you need to do more research- research you don't do which makes it easier to dismiss fact.
I listed that same page earlier- I am well aware of the definition of ad hominem. It means 'to the man', and in modern terms it means to ignore the argument and instead focus on the source, which is what you have done throughout this conversation. It is you that needs to familiarize yourself with the term.
To help you understand it better instead of investigating the articles I listed you dismissed them out of hand due to the source, so their arguments were not your focus but who was doing the arguing. Every argument stands on it's own merit, and even someone like you can indeed be right at some point and despite your regular fallacies, misinformation and emotion-based reactions your next argument might have merit despite yourself.
Nonsense. Go enjoy your echo chamber.
sharePot meet kettle. If you believe anything I posted there is "nonsense" be specific.
shareHmmm- leftist Bloomberg film critic tearing up this movie is a proponent for pedos. Pssst- you can visit this site since it's leftist horseshit.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2023-07-15/qanon-and-sound-of-freedom-both-rely-on-tired-hollywood-tropes#xj4y7vzkg
Sounds like more nonsense. Any particular reason the critic is a "proponent for pedos", besides the fact he didn't like the movie?
shareYes you're best off ignoring the parts of the conversation that you been trounced on, but it's concession on each.
Does your internet not work? He once served as the communications director for Prostasia, a "pro-pedophilia" advocacy group. According to their website, Prostasia supports the "Minor Attracted Persons" (MAPs) Club, a notorious group that tries to normalize pedophilia.
I stepped away because you and your ilk are usually too stupid to keep arguing with. It really gets nowhere. For example, I freely admit I've never heard of Prostasia, but for me to take your word for it that they're a "pro-pedophilia" organization would be dumb of me, so I did a quick Google search. Their site says, "We are a child protection organization that combines our zero tolerance of child sexual abuse with our commitment to human and civil rights and sex positivity." Another quick search on the "MAP" thing, and it looks like they're a group of pedophiles trying not to act on their desires. Sounds like the right thing to do. So maybe Prostasia is "pro-pedophilia", maybe not, but the evidence so far points to "not."
Just curious, how much QAnon type stuff have you read? A lot?
"Parents are tyrants. "Parent" is an oppressive class, like rich people or white people."- Noah Berlatsky
shareAnd your point is... ?
shareThis man works to destroy the safeguards for children and he's consistent. He's a leftist and currently in the news.
shareAnd how is he related to Prostasia or the rest of this conversation?
You know I can throw out ridiculous Alex Jones or Richard Spencer quotes all night. I'm not sure there'd be a good point to make from it, though.
Prostasia has been identified as doing the same.
Richard Spencer- thanks I had forgotten he even existed it's been so long lol. Made me laugh
So long since when? He's still out there spreading his hate.
shareNot unlike yourself, but both are out of the spotlight.
shareI don't spread hate. If you hate, maybe it's just who you are.
shareYou have no self awareness at all- witness your statement "Go enjoy your echo chamber." after you admit you assume there are no facts reported by sites you deem to be politically distasteful.
shareWrong on multiple counts. I never once said there are "no facts" reported by sites I "deem distasteful." There are often facts at those places. Lots of misinformation sites will mix real facts with false information.
I stay away from sites like that and would never use them as a source.
That's not a bad thing.
Quote where I said those were your exact words. I'll wait.
shareAlso you may not be aware of this but being the last to make a statement does not hand you a win in a debate- you've been destroyed spectacularly here.
shareI do have a tendency to continue conversations past their prime. Sorry about that. I have far from been destroyed, unless you count yourself trying to misrepresent what I actually said as "being destroyed." Use my words, not the words you'd wish I'd said, if you want to continue to argue.
shareYou've been smoked completely. This is another example of your lack of awareness.
shareThe gist of the conversation is about a based-on-true-story movie concerned with the protection of children- how does it not fit?
shareLet me ask you this: which side claimed falsely that Trump was a Russian asset? Which side promoted the Trump "pee tape"? Which side pushed the story that Hunter's laptop was fake? With the mountains of evidence that we won't be seeing truth or fact from MSM, the fact that you ignore that and continue believing them establishes that you have no interest in facts or truths, only confirmation bias.
shareCNN's HARD like the pedophilic hard on left (saw the movie on Sunday, 7/16/23.Great powerful story,b.t.w.)
share"The left" isn't pushing for "sex with minors." Maybe your right-wing web sites can find a single example of someone pushing for that, but it's not an organized attempt. It's also not true of 90% of the crap the right is accusing the left of doing. Meanwhile, the right is banning and actually having book burnings,
Yeah, I have. Have you? One of my favorite books, Maus, was banned. The right seems to not want us to learn about the Holocaust anymore.
shareI don't know why you feel the need to make a statement like this. I think it's just common knowledge that there is good and bad in every race, creed, color, religion and political affiliation.
What is very strange, however, is how negatively liberals are viewing this important film. Without even seeing it, many are downing it. The film has nothing to do with any political affiliation. Very strange and bizarre how so many liberals are reacting to it.
Was just reading an article in Rolling Stones that was bashing the movie and, as you said, it was bashed by people that didn’t even see the movie …
Weird indeed …
I read that article too, unless it was another one also in Rolling Stone. Some of the people interviewed were in the field for a number of years. I'm sure there are many different opinions on how to best handle the child trafficking crisis but, in my opinion, after seeing this movie and doing some research, it seems that Ballard's methods, while unconventional, have made the greatest impact in the shortest amount of time.
I think a lot of libs won't see the movie because of a dislike for Jim Cavezeil. If that's the case, they can still watch some documentaries - actual footage of actual rescues Tim Ballard's team did - that are on YouTube. Someone else on MovieChat made me aware of them: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q8dYM90PJA&ab_channel=DNAFilms I saw this last night and it's amazing. It's about a sting operation in Haiti a few years ago that was in cooperation with the Haitian government. This next one I don't think has come out yet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dtwRysEyMOw&t=134s&ab_channel=OperationUndergroundRailroad
Yet, I bet they still won't watch. Unreal!
Apparently, you didn’t read my other post.share
The devil is on the left, and God is on the right. Anyone that molest children are of the devil, hence, they are lefties just like you............nice try.
Yeah but you don’t hear conservatives or their voters defending them, or calling child trafficking a “leftwing conspiracy”.
The Democrat media/party and lemmings like yourself are willfully trying to minimize child trafficking as though it’s suddenly some “conspiracy theory”.
You know what is a goofy ass conspiracy theory. Qanon.
The Democrat media/party and their lemmings talk about Qanon 1000x more than any right wingers.
Let us know when the Democrat party of pedophilia, child rape and murder, decides to get on board. Democrats in CA just shot down a bill making trafficking a felony. The Democrat media has spent the last 2 weeks falling all over themselves to minimize the existence of child sex trafficking.
We have truly entered a bizarre time for our nation. There is so much weird shit going on right now.
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