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Was it any good? (NO SPOILERS PLEASE)


And go....

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Awful, esialy worst marvel movie

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It was good.

Far from the best Marvel movie, not far from the worst, but I liked them all so....

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This.

It's very good, but hardly the best or worst. And I love the lack of world ending stakes.

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Then what's the worst MCU movie you think

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Iron Man 2 .... but I still liked it

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That’s for the viewer to decide. As for me and many others? It is very good. SUPERIOR to the first one. And I say this as someone who’s always held the original Ant-Man in higher regard than most. Is it one of the MCU’s finest? Not a lot of people are expressing that sentiment. However, seeing how I am super fond of the first one and was more impressed with the sequel, I personally place AM&TW in the top 10 (maybe 5? Hmm).

This one packs more laughs, the action sequences are spectacularly thrilling (some of the best executed in the MCU imo), the visuals are second to none, the script is tighter, and overall the movie feels way more fleshed out than its predecessor. Sure, the stakes may not be as high as other MCU films, but so what? This is a standalone movie that’s meant to be smaller in scale. Moreover, I thought the way Ghost was handled was refreshing. She might’ve not made as big of an impact as the last two major Marvel villains we saw this year, but she isn’t supposed to. And how about the sequel’s new shining star, Wasp? She kicks a whole lotta ass! She’s already one of my favorite Marvel heroes.

All in all, this a fantastic MCU/chase/Sci-Fi movie that hits all the right marks. I can’t see most fans of the original being displeased with this one. It’s lighthearted, fun, badass, touching, and INVENTIVE. Oh, also the mid-credits scene is... chilling.

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Ant-Man has always been my favorite of the movies, glad to hear that another Ant-Fan is considering this one to be superior!

Definitely seeing it this weekend.

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A good number of critics are also considering it a superior entry, and if you ask me they’re not wrong. :) But I’ve seen many real Ant-fans sharing this opinion as well.

Enjoy it!

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I think what I like best about Ant-Man is that his "power/ability" is not conflict-driven. It's not weaponry or strength or anything like that, meaning the story and plot have to be more creative, not to mention the way he has to use his powers to get over on people.

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How does it handle the absence of Edgard Wright? What I feared the most from this sequel is not having him as director or screenwriter. You could notice the visual humor from Wright in every sequence from the first movie. How does this one in that regard?

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Edgar Wright didn’t do either Ant Man movie. He was going to but clashed with Marvel. Peyton Reed did the first and second movie instead.

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Peyton Reed used a LOT of Wright's work in the first Ant-Man.

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From what I understand, the original script was unused since Wright wanted the movie to be separate from the MCU. I didn't get much of a Wright vibe from it and this movie seemed to have the same voice.

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Strange. I felt the hand of Wright in the whole movie. The humor was typically his.

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Yep it was good. A few head scratch moments and perhaps the movie felt a little smaller in scope and action than I thought (feels a lot like the first film in terms of budget) but still a quality entry in the MCU.

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The first and this one do have almost the same budget. There's a 20 million dollar difference, but over 7 million of that is inflation alone.

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It isn't as tightly scripted, or quite as funny, as the original, but it holds up quite well. It's a solid entry in the MCU franchise, and never drags. Like the first film, it has a serious undercurrent, a few dark moments, but enough comic relief to balance things.

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I enjoyed it, especially the big car chase at the end. I've laid it out with Pros and Cons below.

Pros - Paul Rudd as Scott Lang/Ant-Man. He's just an average guy type of superhero, trying to do good. He's sort of the well intentioned screw-up who keeps getting into trouble but finding a way out. There's a lot more action sequences. Walton Goggins as Sonny Birch puts on show (he was really entertaining in this role), and Evangeline Lilly steps up as Wasp. Luis was in Luis form again, just as hilarious as before. Plenty of good acting all around and good pacing overall.

Cons - Ghost could have been a bit more developed as a character. We never got to spend more time with her. It also bothered me that the "You go low, I'll go high" moment from the trailers wasn't in the movie (c'mon MCU, quit doing that). The only other thing that bothered me, was the continuity issue over how the Pym Particle tech for shrinking was shown, versus how it was explained in the original movie. I didn't think that the wearer of Hank's shrinking suits could remove their helmet when they were shrunk [see Darren Cross's moment of discovery in the first Ant-Man] and yet Scott does just this during the excursion into his daughter's school.

Anyhow, that's my take on the movie. I'll certainly see it again and will give it 3.5 stars out of 5.

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I didn't think that the wearer of Hank's shrinking suits could remove their helmet when they were shrunk [see Darren Cross's moment of discovery in the first Ant-Man] and yet Scott does just this during the excursion into his daughter's school.

I guess the size difference wasn't extreme enough, both when he's large and small, to necessitate his own air supply.

Either that or they cheated it so you can see his face.

I think the bigger cheat was at the end, inside the cars watching the movie on the laptop. They're Hot Wheels size and yet they have the windows open, because the moth dust gets inside. The doors auto-lock when shrunk and yet you can open the windows???

Definite cheating, but it IS a movie. Some cheating is expected.

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I have a different pro/con.

Pros:
1. The action
2. Goggins in the beginning
3. The acting all 'round
4. Wasp
5. 80% of the humor

Cons:
1. Wasp constantly beaming at Scott
2. Goggins in latter half of movie
3. Ghost has super strength?
4. Just barely crossed the line of realistic humor within the frame of MCU.

Great movie. 8/10

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Nice, but I'm biased. I really like the smaller scale of Ant-Man movies.

The tone is light without being utterly stupid like Ragnarok.

The cast is great and has good chemistry.

Liked the action sequences and the overall story.

It drags a bit here and there, especially at the beginning, but I was never bored.

The baddies were all underdeveloped and Michelle Pfeiffer was severely underused. Her character was mainly a glorified cameo.

All in all I liked it more than GOTG2, Homecoming, Ragnarok and Black Panther.

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I thought it was decent. Funnier than the first and had better action scenes. The villain was a bit weak for reasons I won't into here since there are no spoilers.

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