What a load of crap we’ve had to endure the last 10 years.
Person is a nobody, turns into a Superhero.
Bad guy tries to ruin the world, Superhero stops them. Rinse and repeat for 30 films.
Hopefully Hollywood can focus on creating original blockbusters again.
It was a good run up to end game, but everything after has been rather mid bar gotg 3 which was very good.
shareI think it’s more about the death of the blockbuster. Beyond the occasional anomaly (Maverick, Barbie) people have just decided they’d rather stay holed-up at home like hermits, rather than a night out at the movies. Heck, even Mission Impossible couldn’t bring them to the theaters.
People have systematically murdered the movie theaters, and movie-going experience…and very soon it will go the way of book stores and record stores.
Ass holes.
It's also got a lot to do with the rise of streaming and internet TV.
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shareI think it’s more about the death of the blockbuster.
Maverick and Barbie weren't a continuation of something everybody has seen a million times in the last few years.
shareI also think streaming has a part to play, people would rather wait until its available on Disney or HBO, or even stream a pirated version instead of paying the money to watch at the Cinema. A billion dollar movie is a very rare thing these days, be lucky to get 2 in a year that make over a billion, and I think the situation will get worse.
shareYou can thank Gen Z for this happening since the only way you'll get them up off their lazy ass to shell out $$$ to see a movie at the theatre is if said movie has a Hook, is Meme friendly and a social media event like Oppenheimer was.. You're lucky to see that sort of thing again.. Recently, I watched "PREY" which in the beginning, was Exclusive only for HULU Subscribers and why you would want to watch something as awesome as that movie on anything less than the Silver Screen is perplexing and 20th Century FOX realizes that now too..
sharePeople have systematically murdered the movie theaters, and movie-going experience…and very soon it will go the way of book stores and record stores.
30 films?
More like 100...
LMAO...DID YOUR DAD BITCH ABOUT THE NUMBER OF WESTERNS RELEASED?
shareThe only thing over is Captain Marvel. Disney will just continue the M-SHE-U with this Young Avengers crap and never learn.
shareMs Marvel was the lowest viewed D+ show. Captain Marvel made over 1 billion. But all the women have abandoned her. Young Avengers should placed on D+ with a crappy budget and see if they can cut it there first. Thor L&T was a dog shit movie that made a lot of money. But people love Thor. We only want OG characters.
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You don't like them? That's fine. You are allowed to have an unpopular opinion. But, what a lot of people forget is that every year there are MANY non-superhero films released to the American audience.
Instead of complaining about something that none of us have ANY control over, just go watch something else.
I like the superhero films, but I am not a died-in-the-wool fan. I make sure to watch several non-superhero films every year.
I am a big fan of GOOD horror and science fiction films (notice, I said GOOD - a lot of horror films are dreck) and good dramas, comedies and westerns. So, there are many other choices out there.
That's the way I see it too.
shareyou missed out your loss.
the sheer joy of infinity war, a culmination of over a decade and dozens of intertwined storytelling and character building combining in that was epic. its impossible to experience something like that anywhere else.
Lmao is this satire
sharewhere am i wrong?
shareYou're talking about the MCU as if it's epic, prestige storytelling
share-some of the characters were better developed than 90% of movies characters today and had better arcs and changes. they had multiple movies to do so
-some of the movies were great stand alone films. like winter soldier
- where did i say prestigeous? you are acting like thats the only important metric and sound like a film snob who says "i only watch projects made by auteur film directors". have you ever in history, or has anyone ever on this board said "this film was great because it was so prestiguous!" I said epic and it certainly was. thats just a fact. 20ish films stories intertwined to climax in a final fight against a big universe level threat is epic.
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shareIt has the worldbuilding level of Tokusatsu. Just with bigger budgets.
sharewell you sound like a smug elitist film snob.
shareI don't watch much film at all actually. But when everything is a "universe ending threat" in every film and it's just more "universe ending threats", it's absurd. There ironically become no stakes.
I mean I also just find Superhero as a theme to be kinda childish, or for teenagers.
again smug annoying elitist. arent you a fan of doctor who lol?
shareNo, I'm not a fan of doctor who.
sharestill a smug elitist
shareI genuinely don't understand the obsession with Superhero fiction generally. Especially in the context of the "Multiverse" where nothing really matters. Films become on the level of a "monster of the week" episodic storyline.
sharewheres my obsession? i enjoy it as much as any other small indie, or regular hollywood blockbuster. i can enjoy it for what it is. and i enjoyed unlike other stories we got a multi filmed intertwined story.
thats it that all.
I am speaking generally, not just to you.
shareWAR FILMS...WESTERNS...80'S MUSCLES AND ACTION FLICKS....SUPER HERO FLICKS...WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE?...TRENDS IN FILM...THAT IS ALL...ANYONE PLAYING UP HOW SUPERIOR THEY ARE IS CLEARLY DEMONSTRATING THEIR LACK OF SUPERIORITY.
shareAction flics are pretty silly too, but they're not as a cultural phenomenon remotely as strong.
War films and westerns can be in-depth narratively.
LMAO...BULLSHIT...THE SCHWARZENEGGER/STALLONE/VANDAMME CREW ARE VERY COMPARABLE TO THE SUPERHERO FILMS...AS ARE WAR AND WESTERN FILMS...ALL CAN BE IN-DEPTH NARRATIVELY...YOU GET A MIXED BAG OF RELEASES...EVERYTHING FROM IN-DEPTH TO TRASH.
shareThey were once, but not so much anymore. Westerns declined a long time ago, and War films don't remotely produce the same amount of blockbuster spam as superhero flics.
shareWOW...YOU ARGUE OUT OF THE SIDE OF YOUR MOUTH CONSTANTLY...
OF COURSE THEY AREN'T AS POPULAR ANYMORE...THAT IS THE COMPARISON...GIANT GENRES THAT SPRUNG UP...TOOK OVER...THEN DROPPED OFF...BUT NOT ENTIRELY...JUST MOSTLY.
THE AMOUNT OF "SPAM" IS NOT EVEN CLOSE...THERE IS WAY MORE WAR/WESTERN SPAM...YOU JUST DON'T REMEMBER IT...NO VIDEO STORES OR CABLE TV OR STREAMING,...THE DUDS DROPPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
>THE AMOUNT OF "SPAM" IS NOT EVEN CLOSE...THERE IS WAY MORE WAR/WESTERN SPAM...
In the last 10 years? don't be absurd.
>YOU JUST DON'T REMEMBER IT...NO VIDEO STORES OR CABLE TV OR STREAMING,...THE DUDS DROPPED OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH.
And sure, yes, there was. But that was a long time ago now.
SIDE OF YOUR MOUTH....SINCE POST ONE I HAVE NEVER SAID IT WAS RECENT...THE SUPER HERO MOVIES ARE THE RECENT VERSION OF WESTERNS OR WAR FILMS OR 80S ACTIONERS....THE MODERN FILM FAD...WHICH GETS WAY TOO MUCH ATTENTION AND ISSECTION BASED ON THE INTERNET'S EXISTANCE.
shareThe superhero movies beginning in 2008 with IRONMAN and culminating in 2019 with INFINITY WAR & END GAME were top notch and every movie always lead to a greater thing and that's something you're not seeing with these 3rd Tier superhero's courtesy of Disney+
shareThe business of any product-related business is "sell your product until nobody wants to buy it anymore."
I think we keep waiting -- not necessarily in glee, but more in curiosity(for some of us, at least) - to see: "What will it take for the superhero trend to finally burn out?"
But the thing is, the superhero trend ALREADY burned out...and then came roaring back.
I am thinking of Batman.
The 1989 original with Nicholson as the Joker(superstar casting), Burton at the helm and Keaton's surprisingly deep Batman...was a Number One blockbuster.
Then 1992's Batman Returns didn't do quite as well.
Then 1995's Batman Forever did well, but seemed...lousy(new director, new music, new Batman).
Then 1997's Batman and Robin was...a bomb AND a joke, hated.
So Warners took some time off from the franchise, rebooted 8 years later with Batman Begins(begins AGAIN) and three years later hit just as big(bigger) than Batman 1989 with The Dark Knight(aka the Joker returns.)
It was roughly the same with the Superman franchise in the 70s and 80s. A blockbuster first film(with Brando in for Nicholson) a big hit second, and then a fast collapse - shoehorning Richard Pryor into 3 was a bust and Superman IV was for ...Cannon films?
But Supes came back too.
So probably the superheroes can/will be with us forever at the movies with the "big names." We have many Batmans, Supermans, Ironmans, and Spider-Mans to come in the decades ahead. Just like Sherlock Holmes and James Bond.
Plus:
What type of blockbuster can REPLACE the superhero film? The Western? The space saga?
PS. I was watching Die Hard the other night on streaming and in the "you might also like" list of movies came flowing that entire AVALANCHE of action cop movies from the 80's and 90s: 48 HRS, Lethal Weapon, Die Hard, Cobra, Red Heat, Under Siege, Sudden Death, Speed, Speed 2, Under Siege 2, Die Hard 1-5, Lethal Weapon 1-4. That whole genre seemed to take its first hit when "The Last Boy Scout" underperformed on one of the most expensive scripts script ever sold. Die Hard its in clones(Die Hard on a train; Die Hard on a battleship) lasted longer(Die Hard into the 2000s,) but really cop action movies were done by the 90's. (Arnold's spoofy "The Last Action Hero" helped expose the cliches and IT bombed.
I suppose the fate of Westerns and cop action movies is what folks are waiting for in comic movies. I'm not sure that will happen.
Video games are primed to take the blockbuster spot if they invest the right amount of money, time and people into it. There's great stories and plenty of IP there to mine from. Mario made over a billion dollars in 2023.
shareThe superhero movie era started with "X-Men" in 2000, followed by "Spider-Man" in 2002 and, then, "Daredevil, "Hulk" and "X2" in 2003. The next few years featured the likes of "Spider-Man 2," "The Punisher," "Batman Begins," "The Fantastic Four" and "Superman Returns." This was the foundation of the craze -- well before "Iron Man" -- that has lasted for over two decades.
But it seems to be petering out in the last few years. The last time I actually wanted to see some superhero flicks at the theater was 2019, which ended well with "Joker."