It seems to me that only Kurgan and Fasil were the only two immortals interested in winning "the prize". The African guy and Ramirez didn't seem motivated in trying to take McLeod's life, but why was that. If the rule of their immortality states that only one can survive then wouldn't they be out for each other's blood?
shareI think this was touched upon in the TV series. There were factions that just wanted to stay alive but then there were the immortals that wanted it and wanted to kill every immortal they could within their strength range.
shareRamirez and Kastagir (the African guy) seemed to be more concerned that someone they had some faith in would take out the bad guy. Not knowing Fasil it's hard to say where he fell on the good/bad spectrum.
Had it come down to McLeod vs Ramirez or Kastagir in the final battle the fighting would have been just as ferocious as it was with Kurgan.
Had it come down to McLeod vs Ramirez or Kastagir in the final battle the fighting would have been just as ferocious as it was with Kurgan.
Had it come down to them I imagine they'd have opted not to fight and just kept on keepin' on, no?
shareThe talked about it knowing it could happen. There was a mutual respect and friendship between them. Unlike a battle between light and dark, I assume it would be a respected competition of skill. It's not as if they would be apart afterwards considering that the winner would be imbued with the other's essence.
shareGranted, I haven't watched the film since the '80s, but I can imagine a scenario where they are the last two left and decide it's pointless for one of them to kill the other.
shareI hope you watch it again. The water transition of scenes is still really awesome.
shareSaw that it was on Prime and watched some last night. I remember it being a little bit goofy in that '80s way, but I was not prepared for how corny and goofy it is. I turned it off after the scene where the Highlander's fight with the big guy was broken up by a helicopter. The girl running up to him screaming "he called you Highlander! What does it mean? Why can there be only one?" was just too much on top of too much already.
Instead of some of the reboots we're seeing lately I wish someone would give this film a makeover. The premise is great, and with a better lead and less cheesiness the right director could turn this into something much better.
I don't think I agree. It's a time capsule. Just like a nightmare on elm street. Sure it's hokey, but remaking it would only lead to people trying to make it dark and it would be disappointing.
Just imagine them casting the rock as Conner. Or Jason Mamoa. It would be distracting.
Oh, I can think of some terrible ways to remake it, but if they stuck with the basic feel and premise, and cast someone like, dunno, James McAvoy as Connor MacLeod the end result might be nice.
I'm not hating on the original, either, it's just that like a lot of movies from the '80s, it has a lack of realism that feels corny when compared to modern films. Some films have fared better than others, and while I try to keep the era in mind when watching a movie, many older films haven't stood the test of time. Overall it's still clever and has some fun moments.
hearing people want a remake of highlander makes me want to run amok.
how stupid is the current generation? unbelievable
I don't know how old you are, but even if I am younger than you I'm certainly not a part of any "younger generation." Can you honestly watch Highlander without noticing the many cheesy moments, the ridiculous dialogue, the push-the-plot-along leaps of logic, and the dated special effects? This isn't a movie that one can watch in 2020 with a straight face the entire time through. It's certainly not a film you can show someone, young or old, for the first time and expect them to watch in its entirety. But it has a solid premise, and great moments, which makes it ideal for remaking.
sharethe special affects are awesome, as are the scenetransitions. better than the modern cgi crap.
obv you are part of "the younger generation".
nobody with a sane mind wants anything to be remade, especially not in todays filmindustry.
we live in the dark ages of moviemaking.
Why the need to insult me for not sharing your opinion?
I don't think the film is bad by any stretch, and in general I'm not a fan of remaking older movies, but Highlander strikes me as one of the exceptions. It has potential, but it wasn't made well, and it hasn't stood the test of time. I think it could be done better, which is the hallmark of a film that warrants a remake.
film is flawless as is. besides kurgans assembly sword
shareI don't think they will remake this one. Hollywood has changed a lot since the 80's-90's, it's no longer the wild west like Youtube/Netflix(to an extent) is now (but won't be in the future). The themes in this film are highly politically incorrect especially from the perceptive of the elite Hollywood establishment. There is an underlying theme of Nietchean "last man".
sharesadly enough a remake is already in the making. hollywood will eventually remake all cult classics because it has run out of ideas since the late 90s
maybe this time around a woman or at least "diverse" character will be the one though
I guess they forgot to put a time limit om the "there can be only one" element - otherwise whats to stop them all just living happily and carrying on ...?
shareThat's the part that always confused me. Why was Kurgan eager to reach "the One" status way back when McLeod was a Highlander but Ramirez wasn't? Seems to me that if that wasn't the case and certain immortals wanted to live in peace he'd have McLeod and Kastagir join him and kill off both Kurgan and Fasil and your problems are solved.
sharewhat if the prize was something different for each immortal?
shareWhy was Kurgan eager to reach "the One" status way back when McLeod was a Highlander but Ramirez wasn't?
Maybe he was impatient or the concept of immortality (the living forever part) eluded him.
Seems to me that if that wasn't the case and certain immortals wanted to live in peace he'd have McLeod and Kastagir join him and kill off both Kurgan and Fasil and your problems are solved.
Depends. Maybe new immortals continued to emerge until the gathering and the ones who coveted the prize constantly hunted down others.
Because even if you don't want to kill each other, somebody would. You'd never knew. So before anyone can possibly kill you, you kill everyone else first. When many think like that, they'd be killing each other in no time.
sharedosent that apply to everyone? all people , all tribes , all countries?
Its a wonder we're still alive!
But we are not immortals. When we have infinite age the stakes become too high. Imagine all the things we can do if we live forever.
Can you bet all of those wonderful life, journeys riches and adventures off when you made a silly mistake by trusting 100% that ALL other immortals won't ever, ever harm you? Not even one? In 100,000 years?
Immortals need to kill other immortals to make sure that their own immortality is preserved, forever. That's just the nature of things.
the stakes are still pretty high - its our entire lives either way.
Also , The immortals can be killed by other things than other immortals - like guillotines.
Also , killing other immortals to preserve your security , in swordfights , is like playing russian roulette.
its basicly 50/50 you come out alive.
multiply that by a dozen immortals and its 1024 to 1
i'd rather just steer clear of them , with a new ID
Well, it's just a movie.
shareI think we're talking about straight up human nature. Philosophy. Is the goal of life to give up the rat race and learn to live in peace with nature and fellow man, or is it to war and dominate and control? The very nature of an immortal life lends easily to a Buddhist nature. You've seen it all come and go. It would mellow your ambitions. You have to be real hard core nutter to want to keep chopping off heads well through the ages.
shareI guess not everyone wanted to win. Youd lose immortality afterall.
shareDid any of the immortals , let alone us, actually know what the prize is?
It cant be immortality - they already have it!
A Starbucks gift card and a fruit basket according to Watcher legends
shareThe reason Ramirez trains Connor instead of killing him is really quite simple. They will be called to a far away land when there is only a few left. This is the Gathering. This is where the final fight for the prize will take place. The Kurgen is the strongest of all the immortals. Ramirez is seeking out and training the 'new' good immortals to try and ensure that whoever takes the prize is good at heart. When Connor asks him if it came down to just those two, would Ramirez take his head, Ramirez reply was 'There can be only one'. Ramirez may well have believed that sooner or later he would cross swords with the Kurgen and he expected to lose. Connor it would seem followed on with Ramirez way of thinking regards seeking out the good immortals, perhaps for training or social interaction.
As for what was the prize and did any of the immortals know what it was, Ramirez somehow knew enough to say that if the Kurgen won then mankind would be plunged in to darkness forever.
That is pretty good summary of how little info the film divulged!
Like the OP said , the prize is just some non specific reason for them to have fights occasionally - you know , to make the life of an immortal more interesting to the casual viewer.
There also seemed to be some unwritten rule that all fights must be one on one too , other wise all the "good immortals" could have ganged up on the Kurgen both for themselves and to avoid " mankind would be plunged in to darkness forever."
" They will be called to a far away land "
I think that's 'faraway land', or maybe even 'far-away land'..
In any case, there can't BE a 'far away/faraway/far-away land', because the planet is round, and all immortals are free to travel anywhere they wish, and most have traveled extensively. Let's say every single one of them is in a different place when that happens, then by necessity, some people are farther away from the 'land' (whatever this means) than others, and the probability is pretty high that some are standing right next to it, on it, or at least very NEAR it. So for them, it would be 'near-away land'.
I mean, there's no such thing as 'a land that is far away' in any absolute sense. 'Far' is not an absolute thing, but relative. Iceland is far away from Japan, but Texas is near Mexico. Yet Mexico would be far away from Moscow, and so on. So if it happens in Texas, and Immortal Sakamoto is in Mexico, and Immortal Fjordenstein is in Norway, does it happen in a 'far-away land' or not?
This ludicrously nonsensical term fits this movie very well, of course, because the rest of the movie makes about as much sense as that term itself. Unless they are talking about another planet or the moon, there IS no absolute 'far-away land'.
its all relative
My couch is quite far from the TV
nature forced them to gather and fight. like mating time with animals. they can be friends, until the hormones kick in. kurgan was just the prime alpha guy
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