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Does anybody else hate the Jabba scene in the special editions?

posted 5 years ago by TMC-4 (19574)
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This may sound kind of corny, but it kills the mystique and ambiguity surrounding what Jabba looks like leading up to Return of the Jedi. Before that, we only heard about Jabba and by Empire Strikes Back, we see how far his reach is in terms of getting Solo. So him being shoehorned here, completely loses that entire effect.

Plus, the scene in general makes no sense. Why did Jabba send Greedo if he knew where Han was? And why would he be surprised that Han "fried" Greedo? Plus, the the entire thing is redundant anyway since this scene shares some of the same dialogue as with the Greedo scene. And you have Han repeating the same lines twice in a short period of time.

[–] mikethemartian (6288) 5 years ago

I don’t care for the special edition in general. I rather see the film exactly how it was in 1977.

[–] manwithoutaplan (227) 5 years ago

Yes. This is correct.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

I don't like the scene, because it repeats lines we already heard, it removes the mystique of the mysterious Jabba the Hutt, and it was done so that Lucas could get his (constantly changing) CGI for Jabba in, not to mention the "comedy" of having Han step on his tail.

However, I think Lucas included it to show how Jabba had changed between ANH and ROTJ - early on, he's quite mobile and even smallish, but by ROTJ he's larger, incredibly obese and seems to be stuck on his platform. Let's face it, they could've replaced the Jabba in ROTJ with full CGI to make him consistent with TPM and ANH, but luckily they didn't, and it's a nice example of what being obese does to you.

[–] [deleted] 5 years ago

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[–] kwestmo (4284) 5 years ago

yes

[–] GreenGoblinsOck8 (7515) 5 years ago

I liked it. It always upset me watching the original versions as a kid that Jabba was only mentioned and not seen in the first one.

[–] kwestmo (4284) 5 years ago

Plus Jabba the Hut doesn't come to a small time smuggler. A small time smuggler is brought to him

[–] Stratego (29550) 5 years ago

The fat tub of lard we see in ROTJ didn't even seem mobile enough to pay Solo a quick visit.

[–] AP (5261) 5 years ago

The guy was too fat to stop Leia from strangling him.

[–] CoriSCapnSkip (1637) 3 years ago

It isn't just the special editions, it's now in the official version of the movie. I hated it except for the phrase "crispa Greedo." That was cool.

[–] millsey72 (9761) 2 years ago

Han meeting Jabba in episode 4 was my favorite part of the movie

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12898) 2 years ago

To be fair, it was a surprise and interesting to see when the enhanced versions of the movies were re-released into theaters, but later viewings made all of us realize how pointless this scene was, and why it was originally left on the cutting room floor. It's basically just a reiteration of the exact same dialogue Han had with Greedo just minutes before, but with Jabba instead. Plus, the editing where Han "stepped" on Jabba's tail wasn't that good, because you can see his body unrealistically flicker up and then down for a second behind Jabba before walking around and talking to him some more. Very sloppy editing, in my opinion, particularly where ILM is concerned.

And yeah, it really does take away the mystique around Jabba, because it makes him seem too isolated and more proactive, which are two things Hutts are not known for. Hutts, particularly the powerful ones, do not do things themselves all the time. They make a career out of sitting around and paying smaller, more mobile (and often deadly) humanoid lackeys to do everything for them, including "diplomatic" and "business" communications.

[–] WhereIsRent (1033) 2 years ago

Agreed, plus Jabba doesn’t seem like a reasonable character at all in Return of the Jedi whereas in this scene he lets Han Solo step on his tail and get away without paying his debt.

Also there’s a continuity error where Chewbacca is shown to be walking behind Han and Jabba but then in the next shot he’s back over by the hanger door again, that always annoyed me haha.

It’s a poor scene in a great film, I’d much rather it had stayed deleted and Lucas added back in the Luke and Biggs deleted scene instead before Biggs leaves Tattooine, that scene is much more interesting and gives a bit of insight into their friendship.

With the Jabba scene like you said the mystery is gone and he just looks so jarring in CGI form compared to his excellent puppet counterpart in Return of the Jedi.

[–] TMC-4 (19574) 8 months ago

Somebody made a edit online that had Jabba speaking to Han via a hologram:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdBYEa-4NZI

It's on the bottom-right of the screen. It still doesn't explain why Jabba screams at the part where he steps on his tail if he's not physically in the same room as Han.

[–] AmeriGirl26 (12898) 2 months ago

Except for the screaming, the hologram would have made more sense, but again, the scene feels superfluous because it's just re-doing the dialogue from the Greedo scene.