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God this is so SEXIST!


I mean Samantha on Bewitched had terrific legs but she was always Darren's equal, in IDOJ we have Jeannie in her skimpy outfit just wanting to please Tony all the time and every other woman is a 'perfect little housewife' or some bimbo Roger is trying to bed. I think The Man Show put it perfectly;

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IMO, Bewitched was more sexist, Samantha being expected to totally leave her Witchy lifestyle to conform to Darrin's lifestyle, Maurice made that clear that it was unfair once when he talked Darrin into taking a charm that would let him preform Witchcraft.

To me it's not equal is Samantha is going to be yelled at by Darrin every time she does what comes natural to her.

Jeannie, pretty well did what she wanted in spite of what Tony said, and Tony didn't object to Jeannie using her powers and try to make her be something she's not.

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THANK YOU! I would have gladly dealt with that extra perk of witchcraft [as long as it was used for good] in a spouse! Darren forbade her to use her witchcraft. She initially tried to comply but you can't teach an old dog new tricks especially when your tricks are just so good!

I would have let Sam do her thing to make life easier [make the vacuum do its thing upstairs while I dusted downstairs or vice versa] as long as no one saw. Watch out for Mrs Kravitz.

Oh God. Fortune vomits on my eiderdown once more.

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Rapidly falling in love with Barbara's outfits, watching her now as an air force sergeant which is even better than her go-go dress from the 'MOD' party ep.

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They should change the definition of ADORABLE to just show her picture in all dictionaries.


Oh God. Fortune vomits on my eiderdown once more.

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Just watching the hippie ep, it's hilarious but again her clothes are so cute.

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But Darrin is quite happy for Sam to use witchcraft when it suits him.
Take the episode where they were out in the car, if was dark and raining, and the car got a puncture.
Darrin had been prevaricating about how humans do everything fine without witchcraft, so Sam just sat there and let him change the wheel himself.
He got back in the car, soaking wet and complained that with a twitch of her nose, the puncture could have been fixed.
Sam said that humans do everything fine without witchcraft.
Darrin had no answer to that one.

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Samantha doesn't ever leave being a witch--and Darrin knows this. She is not locked up in a stupid bottle either. She is out and about.

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Samantha did not leave it. She used it still....and besides Endora...etc always mouthed off to him too. She was not cooped up in some bottle. She was out and about.

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That had nothing to do with Sam being a woman though.

Darrin just wanted to live a normal life, for some reason. I never really got what the attraction was though. Why would a powerful attractive woman like Sam want that dweeb?

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Samantha was not forced to marry Darrin, so it was not sexist, though finding sexism is the in-thing today. And Darrin was not a bad-looking man. Maybe Liz's attractiveness is over-hyped, by the way.

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I mean Samantha on Bewitched had terrific legs but she was always Darren's equal, in IDOJ we have Jeannie in her skimpy outfit just wanting to please Tony


It doesn't matter what outfit she wore. Jeannie was the one who wore the pants in the Nelson house.

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I agree tinkerbell and deem.

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Jeannie never listenedto her "Master". She always did what she wanted even if it meant helping Tony Nelson against his wishes. It was pretty much the same with Samantha.

The shows did seem a bit 'sexist' to me when I was a kid. But now that I am older I see them in a different light. The men in the shows are supposedly in charge. But it's the women who have the power. If they choose not to use their power, it's only because they love their men and agree to go along with them. But really, has their ever been a man (and I am talking normal relationship, not an abuser) who could really control his wife AND have a happy home?

Have you ever seen the comedian Ralphie May? He said that his late father gave him great advice about marriage. A married man can either be right OR happy. LOL

There were a number of episodes on both shows where the women had enough and left. Both Tony and Darrin were left standing alone in their living rooms calling out, "I'm sorry. I love you. Please come back." These men were the heads of their households, true, but only because the women they loved voted for them!

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She was a genie. Genies One I their masters and wear outfits resembling Arabia's culture at the time it was made

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I dream of Jeannie was also racist. It just made up stuff re middle eastern culture in early 1960s.

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The only reason it got away with it was there was no Internet for viewers to doublecheck. Hollywood could say/do more or less whatever it wanted.

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I dream of Jeannie was also racist. It just made up stuff re middle eastern culture in early 1960s.


And did them a favor by doing so. Imagine if IDOJ writers showed middle eastern men kidnapping and raping young girls and forcing them to marry or be killed if they refuse, or stoning them to death for being raped (a raped women commits "infidelity" in their culture). How about killing homosexuals just for being themselves? How about destroying historical sites and landmarks because it didn't fit their revisionist history? Or how about showing them teaching their children to hate Jews and to martyr themselves by strapping bombs on their tiny bodies to blow up infidels?

Watching IDOJ as a kid, I always thought of middle easterners as nice people who wore outrageous clothes and veils and had shoes with the toes pointed up. How naive was I?

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Very.

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It's also whitewashing by casting a white woman to play middle easterner genie.

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That's because they needed to cast an established beautiful actress who the audience --including women--would enjoy watching; That is not white washing, but the reality of TV. Networks wish to make money, not lose it. If Marlo Thomas (1/2 middle-eastern) did not have her very large nose reduced, she never would had been cast as the pretty all-amercian woman in That Girl, and so on. You're not supposed to take it so literally. Hey, maybe Jeannie's ancestry had "mixed-genes"..there ya go.

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https://www.quora.com/Which-TV-shows-movies-from-the-70s-or-80s-would-not-exist-today-due-to-the-current-political-cultural-climate/answer/Guanchen-Wang

First of all, nowadays when people think of middle east, you do not think about genies dress in alluring Arabian belly dancer outfits granting you wishes out of Arabian nights. Right now when people think about middle east, they think Islamic extremism, terrorist bombing, Isis and probably a picture of caves. It is actually crazy to think about how drastically people’s view of middle east changed over such short period of time.

Secondly, the space race is no longer a thing. Back then people view astronauts as heroes, braving a new frontier for humanity. Major Nelson was such a kind hearted fellow with physique of a demi god and patriotism that puts Captain America to shame. Nowadays, there are people denying moon landing, claim earth is flat and all that non-sense, showing just how obscured space program has become in the public consciousness of American people.

Finally, a woman dressed in revealing outfit granting a man’s every wish? Are you kidding me? This show would air one episode and be canceled because of how sexist it is.

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Relax. It was entertainment.

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uh-huh. Exactly. This was precursor to Maude...who did not work outside home for paid money either.

Darren getting 'hysterical' was supposed to be the comedy of every episode. Meanwhile Samantha with the 'power' is calm, collected and very sophisticated. She knows what to do in order to save things.

Kinda wondering why she slept with him? Felt sorry for him. At least Sargent was hot even if he was gay.

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But if a man criticized a woman for her looks and wondered what the man saw in her, it would be considered shallow, disrespectful, and sexist. You're doing the same thing.
(by the way, I think York was better-looking than Sergeant) I am really offended.

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Double standards lol.

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Of course it's double-standards, but only condoned when certain women use them. Then said women wonder why they have conflict with men, only to turn around and blame them. They don't have the self-awareness; or they are self-aware but use it as manipulation to "equal the score" for feeling resentful towards men and to obtain what they wish.

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Consider this scene: a man slaps a woman. People: wah wah physical abuse! A woman slaps a man. People: he must be cheating!

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But regardless of cheating or not, when a woman slaps a man, the man is supposed to take it on the chin and his pain is dismissed by people. Then, the same people criticize men for being insensitive. Women will criticize a man for being "insensitive" if he does not express emotion or react, then criticize him for being un-manly if he is sensitive.

Remember, I am speaking about girly-women who are in denial and feel special due to their gender, not the decent women who possess the self-respect and necessary perspective to treat their male peers equally. It's very disturbing.

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Both this and Bewitched were sexist. Did you ever see episodes with the Blue Jin or whatever he was called? He was the boss genie who locked Jeannie in the bottle. The comparisons to pimp/prostitute cannot be more blatant.

Why was Darren so against the witchcraft? At least Tony was protecting Jeannie from being taken by NASA for research and exploited as a freak. But Darren knew the witches lived amongst mortals all the time and were very good at protecting their own. The idea of a woman submitting to the house rules of her husband was extremely sexist, even for the era when this show aired.

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You are being sexist towards men by making that comment, since feminism is supposedly based on the women's right to choose. (you likley find I Love Lucy sexist also)

But in the minds of many women, sexism towards men does not exist, since these women use selective-reasoning. (a nice term for entitlement)

Yet, women expect (and exploit) men to adhere to their rules in just as many households, but that's overlooked. I'd say women are equally, if not more sexist, than most men. Try to be nice, even you were influenced by your childhood experiences.

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Why was Darren so against the witchcraft? The idea of a woman submitting to the house rules of her husband was extremely sexist, even for the era when this show aired
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Why did Samantha marry a man who was so against witchcraft? The idea of a man being forced to submit to providing shelter and food for his wife in the stressful workplace is extremely sexist in any era.

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That never made sense to me either. You agreed to the terms and knew it would mean curbing the concept of who you are as a person (witch).

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Samantha didn't tell Darrin that she was a witch until their wedding night. I doubt very much that they had a conversation beforehand whether Darrin was for or against witchcraft.

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Sam didn't have very good timing then.
I'm not sure what your point is, but not telling Darrin until the wedding night sounds like a way to enhance the entire premise of the show since by the wedding night they were already in love--and there lies the conflict. She could had divorced him anytime she wished, if she felt that oppressed. (Women did divorce their husbands then and got along just fine, in case somebody now brings up that she was financially dependent on him).

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To be fair though, someone like yourself would find everything and anything sexist.

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Jeannie wasn't just a woman she was a genie.And genies whether they be men or women are suppose to obey whoever lets them out of the lamp.So in the context of the shows premise her behavior isn't sexist at all.

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