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What specifically are people attracted to in this guy?


I have listened to him a few times, and there are things he
says I would either agree with or not argue about, but I find
him disagreeable because he seems to take ownership of the
bloody obvious and then try to use it to support right-wing
ideals, or right-wing people who make him a celebrity.

On other levels he is a looney. For example he had to go
through re-hab. Another is that he was telling people all
he ate was meat - nothing else.

Why would some people decide to be disciples of Peterson
when they know or find out stuff like that?

What is Peterson's main point or belief.

What I like about him is that he is no resistant to talking
about things that are difficult to talk about. I always like
a good philosophical discussion, and to discuss values and
what they mean, where they come from, and why we need
them, but these are things that are not partisan, and yet
everything JP says always seems to get politicized or used
in a partisan way.

What is it you like or dislike about Jordan Peterson. I'd love
to see any You-Tube links that are either really good or really
bad according to viewers and how they view him.

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he is annoying as fuck to listen to. i agree with pretty much everything he stand but i cant stand listening to the dude he reminds me of being stuck in school listening to some teacher go on and on. the fact that he is Canadian doesnt help, Canadians are nice and cool but sooooo boring...

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Not Jim Carrey...

You might not dig him, but I don't think "boring" is one of his attributes...

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idk he has a very punchable face and voice, and i agree with everything he says i still cant stand it. i cant imagine not agreeing with this guy and watching him. i cant think of why anyone would wanna watch this guy

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I like him because he is a nazi.

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That's very inclusive of you.

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Some people are forever searching for a new daddy.

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That is perceptive.

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He brought an important conversation to a mainstream audience. The average person who hasn't been on a university campus in the past 20 years or so might be surprised that Marxism is the de facto ideology there, and that this ideology has been slowly creeping into every single institution in society. That's not surprising to me because I am young enough to have been a university student recently.

Other than that, I think he is actually politically clueless. He is certainly not "right wing" nor is he any kind of friend or ally to even mainstream conservative parties. He seems to have the naive idea that liberalism can actually be reformed, but it obviously cannot be. Liberalism will inevitably lead to Marxism, and that is what has happened, almost by stealth, in America and other western countries. As a Canadian, it is absolutely astonishing for me to see the Democrats in America moving to the far left in the past few years. When I was growing up, we always thought the DNC was even more right wing than the conservatives in Canada, but now they are a hard left party. This has taken a lot of people by surprise, and in other cases many old timers are not really aware of the change and are just going to vote as they usually do.

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> so might be surprised that Marxism is the de facto ideology there

First that is untrue.

Second, so you admit you want to brainwash students and censor them because you do not like what you think they believe in?

Third, Marxism is not even a thing. It is another name that Republicans call people who disagree and want to bring them to justice for their crimes. Marxism is a huge lifelong study by Karl Marx about the problems with capitalism ... capitalism, a word that Marx even invented.

If you do not like your own country's health care system I guess you would call it Marxist to try to scare or confuse people. Why the numbers you have better health care than the US, so I guess Marxism or Socialism works.

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First you guys were saying "cultural Marxism" was not a thing, and now you're saying even just Marxism is not a thing. That's a joke. It's very real. The Marxists are the ones who are brainwashing students, not the way other way around. I would go as far as saying that Marxism, its teachings, iconography and everything associated with it should be banned in our society, and should be treated as a terrorist group would be. It's not a study or critique of capitalism, it is a revolutionary movement that seeks to mass murder innocent people on an industrial scale, and that is well documented throughout history.

I didn't say anything about healthcare, but since you brought it up, the public system in Canada is not financially sustainable and will likely cease to exist in a few years. There are no numbers to suggest our system here is better than in the US, and in fact all of the data I have seen suggests otherwise.

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Sorry, I don't bother to respond to people who do not read or operate in good faith. Go ahead and rant all you want about Marxism which you know nothing about, I won't be seeing it because you will be on ignore.

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Marxists operate in good faith? They put bullets in the back of people's heads and then let their bodies fall into a mass grave. That's good faith.

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He's like Joe Rogen. He gets young people's attention because he looks mature and talks about everything but isn't grounded in day to day reality. It's appealing to listen to people who come across as illuminated or sage-like. I use to flock to these types as a teenager and during college but quickly outgrew them as soon as I entered the real world and had to rely on myself. You'll never see people like this take on leadership roles or running a game-changing corporation because they run on their personas which are based on emotional appeal.

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> He gets young people's attention because he looks mature and talks about everything but isn't grounded in day to day reality.

Very well said.

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Clash of liberals and conservatives.

One of the main tenants of conservatives is personal responsibility, that YOU are the captain of your ship.

From the few videos that I have seen, he preaches from that pulpit. (His Peter Pan one is pretty good..."a grown man -child is a ugly thing")

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That's grown man-childist ! I'm calling the Woke Police !

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It's a funny video, chiding students not to live in Peter Pan world and to grow up.

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Yes good old Jordan, ever the distributor of cold comfort.

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He speaks the truth. He provides rational explanations of why he believes what he believes. That makes him attractive to thoughtful, intelligent people. Rehab? Sounds like he's doing what he needs to do to fix a problem. Nothing wrong with that. What he eats? Irrelevant. I don't look to him for dietary advice. The left hates him because he illuminates the foolishness of their postmodernist nonsense. All the more reason to listen to him.

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You lost me and a lot of other people at “he’s a looney because of rehab”. This is an absurdly simplistic/ignorant/un-nuanced reaction to someone getting treatment for their substance abuse issues.

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Didn't say that.

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You did. See your second paragraph.

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You are misinterpreting what I meant.

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MoviesSuck, I agree with Brux* he did not say that. He said "On other levels he is a looney. For example he had to go
through re-hab." Your intreptation was that “he’s a looney because of rehab”. Two different things.

His is an example of a level that shows he is a looney and leaves open the possibility that he was already looney before the re-hab stint and it was just another bit of proof that he is looney. Yours is that before the rehab stint he was not a looney and due to his re-hab stint he BECAME a looney.

*I do not think he is a looney myself but Brux but agree that Brux did not say “he’s a looney because of rehab”

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