but you cannot claim to be a proponent for free speech and object to him kneeling for the anthem.
shareTHAT WASN'T FREE SPEECH...THAT WAS A PAID EMPLOYEE BUILDING HIS OWN BRAND.
shareI'm surprised, Kowalski. I figured you'd be on his side.
shareThere's a fine line between "Free Speech" (in public), and adherence to your employer's Code of Conduct.
The NFL and SF 49ers pussied out on this from the beginning by not taking a firm stand.
If I'm on the clock, working for my "company" (the NFL), and that company policy states that I wear my uniform, containing no advertisements, and stand for the anthem, and be present for all games, practices and meetings, then I as an employee have to adhere to that, or be subject to termination.
The NFL, Players Union, and SF 49ers could've put an end to all this nonsense right at the start by firing him on Day 1, but they couldn't risk the political fallout resulting from Kaepernick's White Guilt.
It slowly and eventually evolved into the players no longer being on-field during the anthem. I guess they couldn't predict the firestorm that would result out of a bunch of crybaby multi-millionaires, but if they had removed the players from the anthem-playing immediately, Colin Kaepernick would just be another dried-up has-been, instead of a multi-millionaire "pretend black" spokesperson for a multi-national, reverse-racist company, in Nike.
None of this kneeling was "Free speech". It was demonstrating on company time. If that was my company, I would be fired on Day 1.
In the land of the free, for 1/2 your life we are supposed to live under a totalitarian dictatorship, or starve? Sounds like slavery to me.
shareNo, less than 1/8.
I only work 8 hour days, 5 days a week, for half my life, as a slave. I'm free 7/8 of my life. Not a bad deal.
I don't and am not allowed to demonstrate my political beliefs while on the clock. But I don't work for a woke company.
So you don't sleep?
shareI said I work 1/8 of my life as a corporate slave.
The other 7/8 comprises sleep, my teen years, retirement years, and 8-hours a day to do and say whatever the Fuck I want.
Maybe you're (not your) not good at fractions. In a recent survey, 5/3 of the respondents admitted to not being good at fractions, so you're (not your) in good company. Now go have a swell day!
Maybe you're not so great at making BS arguments, I can see through them immediately. Why don't you count all the years before you were born and after you die too?
shareYou're not so great at making sense. I would easily mop the floor with you in a debate.
I responded factually to your highly inaccurate comment: In the land of the free, for 1/2 your life we are supposed to live under a totalitarian dictatorship, or starve? by detailing how your math is way off. We don't spend half our life in corporate slavery. Not even close.
Your response about "before birth" and "after death" makes absolutely no sense. Now please go away.
I already mopped the floor with you ... but nice to see you have
spirit to claim victory with a mouthful or floor cleanser and a
faceful of muck. I don't expect you to understand anything
past basic fractions which are not the relevant point here.
The First Amendment protects citizens from the heavy hand of government. It applies to government action.
I agree. No "employee" should be allowed to politicize on company time. I would be fired for walking around the office holding up a BLM sign.
And Bill Clinton should've been fired for getting a BJ in the office that taxpayers are paying for. How many us would still be able to keep our jobs after being caught with our Weiner in an intern's mouth?
So you agree with the dummies on social media who justify censorship the exact same way?
"It's a private company" is not an appropriate defense of censorship of any kind.
Then boycott the company. The point still stands, the first amendment applies to the government, not citizens nor their private entities.
shareYou all must be pretty young. NOBODY thought free speech only applied to government intrusion until social media and all the idiotic ideas on it became commonplace just over ten years ago.
But, whatever. Enjoy (real) fascism!
We might be talking at cross-purposes here. That is, the difference between what a company should or shouldn't do, and what is a violation of the First Amendment. Free speech is good...of course! Censorship is bad...of course! But what is a violation of the First Amendment? That requires some sort of government action. Having said that, I don't see objecting to his kneeling as some sort of violation of his rights. He has gotten plenty rich voicing his point off the field.
shareSure you can. Just because I support free speech doesn't mean I have to pretend he isn't an unenlightened and opportunistic grifter.
shareHe is a grifter, I don't disagree. But I do think he has a right to be a jackass in public if he so chooses.
shareYou’re correct. He has the right to be a jackass in public. He does. People also also have the right to think he’s an idiot. The NFL and the 49ers also had the right to drop him from the league/team.
Where the rights were limited is with the government. The government didn’t have the right to force the NFL to drop him. The government didn’t have the right to imprison him for his actions. And they didn’t. And he wasn’t. So there’s no violation of anyone’s constitutional rights.
In answer to your other post where you say: “NOBODY thought free speech only applied to government intrusion until social media” that’s irrelevant. How people used to interpret the law and what the law actually was is irrelevant. The law is what the law is and is written as it was always written. There were no amendments made to it when social media came on onto the scene.
Just think that in 5 years the press will not bother showing his ugly face anymore.
Between 2010 and 2021, the Hispanic/Latino population had the most growth increasing by 11.9 million from 50.7 million in 2010 to 62.6 million in 2021
And the unpleasant surprise for democrats is going to be that the Latino vote will primarily go toward more conservative candidates.
shareWhy are you making a post about this in 2023?
sharePersonally never questioned his right to make a political statement. Other people are, of course, free to exercise their free speech rights to criticize him. I’m sure he expected a mixture of praise and blowback. And he got both.
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