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Have you noticed urban/hip hop culture has overtaken white suburbia?


Like almost every middle class white kid under 25 and plenty 25+ now use an entire vocabulary of slang borrowed from/born of hip hop and speaks in ways that are unmistakably African American in nature. These are privileged kids living in $500k houses who talk like they grew up in the hood.

Most of the popular music is hip hop or hip hop influenced, even the bubble gum pop is now very hip hoppy and a lot of it just straight up rap.

Now let me say I love rap/hip hop, I grew up during the golden age and during which some of the best hip hop was released peaking in the mid 90s with Nas and Jay-Z’s debut albums. Most of the stuff coming out today being billed as rap is straight trash, the genre has been overrun with mumble rappers and emo/trap, auto tune synth infused garbage. There are a select few who are still staying true to the form.

Anyway, had to clear that up before I got hit w the race card. But yeah, people are without question getting dumber by the day and pop culture is shit.


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I play guitar and it is sad that cultures like America, Australia the UK which was rich in rock music is now all about rap and techno. Rap doesn't lend itself well to some accents either, you should Australian rap lmao! Funny when I see young Aussie blokes in country towns blasting rap music from their Utes as well.

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Yeah I have heard a lot of British rap and it sounds ridiculous.

Ditto on the decline of rock, I remember even as recently as the early 2000s there was still halfway decent rock being made, it’s practically extinct now. We will always have our zeppelin and Floyd which sounds as good today as it ever did!

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Funny thing is when you get on youtube and look at young guitar players rock is still very popular in Europe and South America. I do look forward to the death of rap and hip hop though.

I think hip hop/rap is for people who just listen to whatever is popular. They like to think they are cool.

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My Oldboyitis may be flaring up but hell yeah to Zep, Floyd, The Stones and all the rest of the classic ROCK acts

We will never see their like again:/

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Do you want rock to be dead? Support your local/new bands and quit kissing the ass of bands who have been around forever.

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I don’t know, I really like the Hilltop Hoods, talented guys.

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I heard their version Only 19 and that lost me. The original has a real haunting feel to it, they just wrecked it.

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I haven’t heard that but I think they do a pretty mean Chili Peppers cover:

https://youtu.be/N3W5w3y2RUo

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I think it was the herd who did the rap version of I was only 19, not the hilltop hoods.

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We must live in very different neighbourhoods. Mine’s not hip hoppy at all.

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It’s either hip hop or country here and I would imagine most places other than a few select bastions of indie rock like the west coast

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I'd say maybe in the 80s or 90s your post might be true but I don't think it has the same influence today.

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In the 80s/90s rock was still as popular as hip hop. Hip hop was just new and trendy so it permeated the mainstream but it wasn’t the gangsta/trap rap they were celebrating it was the goofy mtv sir mix a lot, new jack swing and montel Jordan shit that was being played at dance clubs and weddings not NWA.

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I noticed 10-15 years ago. That was probably kinda late, but I don't keep in touch with what the kids like.

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Yeah white appropriation of black culture started in the 80s and has gradually gotten worse, but it seems to have reached a new zenith in which sorority girls now say stuff like “bruh”, “you got me fucked up”, “miss me wit dat shit”, and “that’s what’s up.” Luckily it’s a complete turn off so it helps me accept my age and being “out of touch” with the apathetic disaffected lower end of the millennial spectrum but it’s certainly a sad state of affairs, especially considering they neither appreciate or even acknowledge the culture they are borrowing from nor the struggle and oppression it was born from. They are just parroting social media and meme culture and trying to fit in, desperately trying to mask the fact that they themselves have no culture or identity.

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I don't think it's that deep. Kids like to differentiate themselves from their parent's generation, and picking up urban patois sounds like a cool way to assert independence, sure to cause consternation for the 'rents. Most will grow out of it when they need to find work.
At least that's my assumption.

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Yeah white appropriation of black culture started in the 80s and has gradually gotten worse, but it seems to have reached a new zenith [...] it’s certainly a sad state of affairs, especially considering they neither appreciate or even acknowledge the culture they are borrowing from

And what to say about black appropriation of white culture? now blacks wear clothes, and can use basic tools, and have books (even they don't seem to know how to use them), and enjoy the benefits of medicine and science.

You're right, it's really a disgusting and sad state of affairs, how they have appropriated white culture considering they neither appreciate or even acknowledge all that they are borrowing 😟

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It sounds like you live in a neighborhood that had a lot of the white people flee from the oncoming AA tide from wherever the nearest city is, and they're now taking over the middle-class houses using Section 8 deals.

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Mid 90’s? Golden age was late 80’s.

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Dig for the reason and within a day you will have it.

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I never heard the term mumble rap til I moved out west. Nobody is mumbling, it’s just a different dialect than you’re used to. Anyway, had to clear that up.

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