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So how woke is this?


Saw this pop up every so often on my recommendation feed but every time I see the year (2021) I can only think that this is some kind of co-opted sci-fi flick with a bunch of wokeness throughout.

I have no patience nor time to waste on woke trash, so for anyone who has (or plans) to see it, can you give a heads-up on how woke this movie is?

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I didn't find it woke at all. Yes, the cast is diverse, but the story doesn't say anything about race or ethnicity or biological sex or gender.

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As long as the cast is diverse, that's all that matters to me. Diversity is our strength!

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Yeah it's unbelievable that there are still narrow-minded people out there who actually complain when the cast of a show is racially diverse or if racially mixed people are featured.

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the OP never said anything about a diverse cast. Just asking about woke bullshit..

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It depends on the setting, the story, and the location.

It's always bothersome to me to see a bunch of non-Asians and non-whites in laboratory settings set within America when statistically majority of experts in the STEM field are universally Asian and white.

It completely takes you out of the film when that happens.

Same way they show a gang of clean-looking white "thugs" in the ghetto robbing a Korean store. It's completely jarring because you know this just doesn't happen in crowded urban centers within large American cities. It just doesn't gel with reality.

"Diversity" only works when it's relevant to the time, place, and location, and where it fits the narrative being told. A film like Riders of Justice had a perfect cast because it matched the location, the story, and the people involved. A movie like the Cloverfield Paradox did not, because the cast was not at all representative of who actually graduates at the top of the class in the fields of electronic telecommunication devices (again, mostly Indians, Asians, and some whites), and engineering (mostly whites, and some Indians/Asians).

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THIS ^^

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Something really wonderful happens when young people watch a movie and see someone who looks like them doing a job that is unfamiliar to them. They believe that they can do it too!

Before the television series ‘A Different World’ came out, a lot of black people didn’t even GO to college and black women hardly went at all. Now, black women are enrolled in college at a higher percentage than any other group including white women, Asian women and white men!

When I was a little girl I thought that scientists were all men, just because I had never seen a female scientist until I watched a film where a woman discovered a mathematical code to create clean, abundant energy. As silly as it is it suddenly dawned on me that, actually if I wanted to, I could be a scientist too! It was very transformative for me and suddenly I was paying more attention in certain classes because they weren’t just for boys like I had believed. Women still only make up 28% of the field but those women have been vital in the preparation of vaccines, medical technology, chemistry, cell biology and it is growing at a really fast rate which is something that will be great for humanity, more minds changing our world.

So you may consider that ‘woke’, but I see it as important.



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Before the television series ‘A Different World’ came out, a lot of black people didn’t even GO to college and black women hardly went at all. Now, black women are enrolled in college at a higher percentage than any other group including white women, Asian women and white men!


Except, A Different World wasn't about pushing quotas or token diversity, it was literally about the challenges, benefits, and obstacles African Americans faced during their college and post-college years. They didn't undermine or misrepresent anything to push an agenda (albeit positive) about blacks attending college.

As silly as it is it suddenly dawned on me that, actually if I wanted to, I could be a scientist too!


Great, but that really has nothing to do with miscasting and diversity quotas.

No one is saying there shouldn't be stories about women in scientific roles, or blacks as doctors. I'm saying that stories need to be reflective of their fields in some ways, and in reasonable or realistic ways based on the story being told, sort of like 1971's The Andromeda Strain.

That's a brilliant movie, and one of the leads is a female who plays a vital role in the events that transpire throughout the film, but she doesn't come across as a diversity-hire or there to fill a quota. She's an interesting character who matches the role against the backdrop of a potentially deadly viral outbreak.

So you may consider that ‘woke’, but I see it as important.


Except women naturally just aren't very inclined to pursue STEM roles and for very obvious biological reasons. This isn't to say that no women have an interest in the STEM field, but very few have interest and it isn't necessarily because of "representation". Besides, seeing people in illogical roles in movies hasn't changed the stats on female graduates in STEM fields.

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"Except women naturally just aren't very inclined to pursue STEM roles and for very obvious biological reasons."

I agree that, although appropriate diversity is great, in-your-face wokeness is unappealing in movies and tv. But I can't imagine what are the biological reasons women aren't inclined to go into STEM.

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Oh, I do all the time. Because it's so forced. We have to include a person of color. And that means black. I only wish black people were half as talented as they want us to believe they are.

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I grew up in a diverse area, and my circle of friends, acquaintances, schoolmates and workmates has always been diverse. So it just looks bizarre and mean-spirited to me when I see people complaining about something that is totally commonplace, as if something that is just a normal part of life is being "forced down people's throats" as some kind of "agenda."

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So did I. But I see it as bizarre that every single aspect of our lives needs to be diverse, even to the point they change the skin color of historical figures in movies and tv. So, yes, it is forced down our throats. Most people don't like to be told how to think.

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Well said.

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Best skip it. Get back on Parler, you.

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Parler doesn't host movies dumbass..

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Get back to Twatter, you!

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What's bizarre to me is how Leftists seem to think that anyone who disagrees with their perverse worldviews shouldn't be allowed to share their views in public forums.

You know who also shared those kind of beliefs?

....Nazis.

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So go back to sleep.

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If your question revolved around why is there no white male involved ... even though I hate this whole anti-woke thing, your question is a good one. Women are the only ones who can do anything or who have good judgement, and heroics ... but maybe they could not stand to make all the characters white so they got Jin from Lost to represent the males badly, and of course the stowaway bad guy is black. It was kind of anti-woke, woke so bad it was anti-woke. Terrible movie.

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I have no idea how to take your comment.

It was woke so bad that it was anti-woke? lol... that literally made me chuckle.

So is it because the bad guy is black or because of all the pro-feminist propaganda or just both?

The lack of white males is definitely a tip off to stay away from this movie, though, so thanks for that info. I don't think there will ever be a full-on, real life space crew composed entirely of non-white men.

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Well... there were no white dudes - which means everyone was pure good
White chick saved the day by sacrificing herself - I'm surprised they didn't give that heroic death to the black dude, but then we'd have BLM protests worldwide... lol

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well it was two women with one bloke (or was till the plot unfolded) so... that calls for something...

I mean, 5 months with 2 chicks in space?

come on, man!!

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Fascinating.

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I despise wokeness as much as the next rational person, but this movie is not woke at all. In the context of this particular story, there is no logical reason why one character couldn't be black and one couldn't be Asian.

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