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Todd Phillips Left Comedy to Make ‘Joker’ Because ‘Woke Culture’ Ruined the Genre


https://www.indiewire.com/2019/10/todd-phillips-left-comedy-joker-woke-culture-1202177886/

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good for him

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BOOM! I guess he's just another person from comedy who's now going to be labeled an "untalented has been".

Who's left? Hollywood comics are red pilling faster than I was popping advil after I had my wisdom teeth out.

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Oh, comedic hacks are red pilling? Awww, poor babies! George Burns, Milton Berle and Jack Benny were able to last decades in comedy. How did they manage to do it, when they had to work under far more restrictive conditions? At one point, you could actually be arrested on obscenity charges for using profanity and talking about stuff like anal sex, and yet all of these comics worked cradle to grave without any problems. What was that all about?

BTW, no one's red pilling. They're blue pilling. If these comedians were red pilling, they'd be waking up to the cruel, harsh reality that all that's happening is that just like vaudeville, ventriloquism and musical parody, their time has past. Older comics realized that this was always a possibility (that they would one day become dated). It's why they would stop doing stand up at some point and break into acting or TV/movie direction (for example, Pryor teaming up with Gene Wilder, Redd Foxx doing TV, Dangerfield breaking into movies, Steve Martin writing plays, etc.).

Todd Phillips is a moron doing the same thing as every comedian before him whose time has run out, but instead of just admitting, "Look, my comedy is old and dated, so I have to move on to something else," would rather contribute to the growing toxicity of today's culture by pandering to this bullshit idea that "woke culture" is "killing comedy." It's just so much easier to do that than to admit that you're a comedy has-been whose shtick a new generation couldn't care less about.

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Prior to 1990 comics could ridicule trannies, gays, or dress up as woman. BBC won't even play Monty Python anymore!

You keep posting SJW lies. Nobody falls for that bullshit here.

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All I read out of that unhinged diatribe is “anyone who doesn’t agree with me is a has been”.

Sure, lol. Show me the comedians then. I know AOC’s humour is unintentional, but is that who you go to for laughs?

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All I read out of that unhinged diatribe is “anyone who doesn’t agree with me is a has been”.


Who gives a crap? I didn't write my response for you to read, but for the benefit of anyone else who might've read your post and been tempted to take it seriously. That's how open discussions on a message forum works. A person posts complete and total horse shit like you did, and then another person who sees it for the complete and total horse shit that it is calls it out so that other readers don't accept it at face value. *shrugs*

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These guys are so tough, they listen to the SJW's and whine about them instead of doing whatever they want. It's weird. I wonder why they love listening to the SJW's.

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Its all about victimhood. They want to pretend "woke" culture is giving them real hardships when we all know it isn't.

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"would rather contribute to the growing toxicity of today's culture by pandering to this bullshit idea that "woke culture" is "killing comedy."

LOL! Like Dave Chappelle whining on stage how hard it is to be a comedian these days and he can't say whatever he wants while he literally said whatever he wanted on stage for $60 million from Netflix on the biggest streaming service in the world.

It's one of the best times to be a comedian. These guys are just pandering to the anti-woke outrage crowd.

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It's based on two paragraphs from a good article on Joaquin and his weirdo family.

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/10/joaquin-phoenix-cover-story

It was October 28, 1977, his third birthday, and Phoenix and his family were aboard a cargo ship bound for Miami from Venezuela. His parents had just abandoned their lives as followers of a notorious religious cult, the Children of God, which was led by a charismatic former preacher named David Berg, who called himself Moses. Phoenix’s parents, who spent much of the late 1960s wandering the West Coast in a VW microbus, had become missionaries, traveling around the southern U.S., Venezuela, and Puerto Rico, and giving birth to Rain, Joaquin, and Liberty along the way. To sing about God, Rain and first-born River went busking on the street. The organization made Phoenix’s parents “the archbishops” of Venezuela and Trinidad.

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Another snowflake whines about woke culture and leaves the genre instead of saying "screw you! I'll joke however I want!"

Yep, real beacon of toughness there.

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He's also a hypocrite. I'm old enough to remember when this shitty brand of edge lord comedy was brand new. The whole point of it was to piss off the PC Crowd and laugh at all the pearl clutchers gasping with shock and outrage at what they were saying, for everyone to go, "Haha, look at these feminist bitched get all mad. Look at these minorities get all mad. Isn't it funny?"

They were all loving this idea of offending everyone as long as they got paid. Now all of a sudden, it's a problem when the checks stop coming. And now they're playing victims, acting as if all they were doing was harmless, inoffensive comedy the entire time and that it's unfair how blacks, women, Asians, etc. are getting mad at their "innocent" jokes, when 10-20 years ago, they were more than happy to offend them if it meant laughing at how angry and upset they got.

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There is racist humor with nuance and then there's the stuff like you said about just trying to piss people off with no point behind it.

This is how racist comedy is done right, done by 2 legends:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9TS1pRmajU

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Yes. Thank you for that link. That's a classic SNL skit.

And the reason why no one got offended at that skit is that the point of racist comedy in the past was to make fun of racism, not to piss people off and then laugh at their reaction. And the joke behind the skit wasn't the racial slurs, anyway. It was watching two guys who were supposed to be cool, calm and professional lose their shit. That was the biggest "joke" of all.

Here is my personal favorite "racist" joke, from Sanford and Son. Again, as with the SNL skit, the reason why it didn't offend anybody is that Fred Sanford uses the word to point out how racist traffic cops are. Also, it's a funny joke, anyway. ("There are enough of them to shoot a Tarzan movie.") Sanford and Son: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HQiqvwQ5Xk

Too many of these hack edgelords just say offensive stuff without actually being funny and then whine that everyone "can't take a joke." Well, to take a joke, you have to make one in the first place, right? But this is how these hack edgelords operate.

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sorry but i'm only here to know more about your racism against white people.
any updates on the issue?

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Exactly which movies are you referring to? (Brand of edge lord comedy?)

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I see, Todd Phillips decided to lash back and thus has made a very good, if not great, film for the ages.

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Phillips never said anything about making jokes at the expense of marginalised groups or women but that's the way Twitter spun it. The Hangover movies were not PC but neither was any comedy movie prior to 2014. Were any of those movies 'dangerous'? The Hangover wasn't even controversial when it came out but viewed by the current standards of the Twitter mob and given the amount of slurs in it I doubt a script like that could pass today effectually making his point for him.

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He has a point. Current culture is full of people looking to be offended by something, anything, because they have fetishized victimhood and it gives them an excuse to project their virtue into the world and prove their wokeness. It started in the 80's with Revenge of the Nerds and has branched out to anyone and everyone that feels entitled. It's disgusting.

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On the contrary, the comedy world is filled with hacks who don't actually tell jokes anymore, like Chapelle "joking" that he "doesn't believe in abortion," Tracy Morgan saying that he'd kill his son if he was gay, or that guy who just got fired from SNL who called Chinese ch*nks. Apparently, all it takes to be a comedian these days is to just call yourself one, grab a mike and then just say whatever you want with a shit-eating edge lord grin without actually telling a joke, then play the victim when everyone gets angry at you. No actual jokes. No set up, no punch line. No delivery. Just, "Why are gays such f*gs, tee hee hee? Aw, what are you PC cucks getting mad about? It's just a joke."

Thank God I grew up in another era when we actually had comedians who used to actually tell jokes and be funny.

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The only big name comedian that made me laugh in recent years was Bill Burr because his comedy is honest. The rest pretend that being PC is edgy, they are celebrities, not comedians. There are some funny people on small stages.

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AN THE CONTRARY..TRY LISTENING TO THE COMEDY INSTEAD OF GOOGLING THE OFFENSIVE PARTS...YOUR ANALYSIS IS COMPLETELY FALSE AND QUITE FRANKLY IGNORANT...IF YOU ARENT EMBARASSED...YOU SHOULD BE.

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No, you tell me what hilarious "joke" that someone made that wasn't offensive but got everyone oh, so upset for no reason because they were over sensitive. Give me a specific joke. Let's hear it.

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ENJOY YOUR SNOWFLAKE FUTURE.

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Tell me the specific jokes that are really funny that everyone is being too sensitive about. If you can't tell me, thanks for outing yourself as a poseur who doesn't listen to comedy at all and is just another millennial idiot jumping on the "PC is killing comedy" bandwagon without actually knowing or caring about whether it is or not, or how it's actually doing it.

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From what I've read this will be pretty "woke". White males are portrayed in a bad light...POC more compassionate and humble and decent.

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EVERYONE NEEDS TO STOP USING WORDS LIKE "WOKE" AND "SJW" SO THEY WILL DIE AND GO AWAY.

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AND USING ALL CAPS

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