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Movie Gets Worse With Each Viewing


And the saddest thing is that as mediocre as this movie is, it's still one of the best horror movies of the past 5 years. Really says a lot about the state of the genre

This movie is a textbook example of "good concept, poor execution". The first half is good and creepy, even if a little silly at times. The movie starts going downhill fast once they go to the beach. The ending in the swimming pool is awful.

Kind of reminds me of Jeepers Creepers in that regard. Both movies shoot their wad early on. David Robert Mitchell should sell off the rights to the sequels so we can have this high concept premise pulled of correctly

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It's not really a horror movie. That's why most people don't get it and think there's something wrong with it.

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what would you say the movie is, then? indy drama?

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I'd call it a very weird drama.

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yeah, i suppose that makes sense

the first half uses a lot of the tropes of horror movies, but the second half has almost no suspense. and then there's the weird lines about Detroit's inner city

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That's ridiculous. How is it not? In any event, couldn't every horror movie be classified as a drama?

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It is one of the few horror films in 15 years that I have liked. Usually horror is irredeemably stupid.

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I don't know; I saw it again last night for maybe the 3rd or 4th time - I still liked it and, surprisingly, I still actually got creeped out by certain moments, even though I've seen the film before. That's pretty good in my book and doesn't always happen.

I think it also helps to leave a long gap between viewings, so that you almost forget parts, and that goes for any movie. I still think this one is a good "creepy" horror flick.

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it was not mediocre, it was a masterpiece, go back to watching superhero movies dude

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LOL, fuck you you salty bitch

It was overrated hipster trash. Movie makes absolutely no sense.

A masterpiece is something like The Thing. Doesn't take narrative shortcuts to deliver the scares and the nightmarish visuals. It is completely coherent and yet just as disturbing as a piece of shit movie like It Follows

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nice reply dude , makes you look really smart and cool, go back to watching superhero movies man, please.

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LOL at a guy who thinks It Follows is a masterpiece acting like a movie snob. No surprise that your username is einstein, pretentious prick

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you have nothing to offer to this world than insults, and your low IQ, good luck with your life

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At least I don't think It Follows is a masterpiece. Lul. Maybe try educating yourself on the genre

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lol bob i let you have the last word

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Yet you keep replying. My thread made you deeply triggered. It's ok to be a film dilettante masquerading as a smart guy. We all have areas where we unleash our insecurities onto the world

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you keep replying with insults, it seems much more likely, that you are triggered bobby, but its ok, many people like you out there living great lives

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I admit that I'm a little triggered that there is someone out there dumb enough to call It Follows a masterpiece. As a film nerd it does offend me to see someone so ignorant, especially when it's coupled with the irony of them calling themselves einstein

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It Follows is a masterpiece.

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It is a movie that aspires to be a masterpiece and has done a good job of fooling a large portion of the moviegoing population

But "masterpiece" is not an official title, it's a word fans and critics throw around, so we can debate until we get blue in the face, but there is no point. For me it has too many flaws when compared to other horror films generally considered masterpieces

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Ah you’re one of those “I didn’t like this movie so people who liked it were fooled” guys. Bye.

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Never called anybody a fool. Except einstein, but he is a fool so it's ok. Bye.

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sorry for the late reply bobby why u triggered bro? u jelly?

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EIsnstein have you read your own posts in regards to insults??

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nah i let you do that. i am the best

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It's not mediocre, but it's by far not a masterpiece.

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yeah is a masterpiece you are right

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Jeepers Creepers was good until (1) a SWAT team suddenly appears in the middle of nowhere and (2) the girl wanting to sacrifice herself in place of her brother when her brother is the one that got them into the mess. I understand that girl was having doubts of self worth with the whole boyfriend situation, but her character should have evolved over the course of the film.

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One of the creepiest and creative horror movies I’ve seen in a long time
Loved the lead actress and the 80s style soundtrack
For me , It Follows was like being stuck in a surreal nightmare

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^^^ I totally agree^^^

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It's no coincidence that nightmares usually make no sense upon reflection, and that many reviewers have compared this movie to a nightmare

I admit this movie was very creepy in some moments. But being very creepy does not excuse its poor story and awful third act. Just my opinion. Like I said, what it does well it does well enough to still be one of the best horror films of the last few years. But that's not a great compliment, in my estimation, because the horror genre has been dreadful for almost a decade

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Ok, The Thing is a thing from the 80s. What modern (2010-2018) horror movies do you consider good/great?

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Hm, well, like I said, this last decade has been pretty bad for the horror genre. But I'll try to think of some films that I genuinely enjoyed from that time period. And I acknowledge that most of these films have their own flaws

Karyn Kusama's The Invitation (part thriller)
Insidious
I Saw The Devil (part action)
Julia's Eyes
The first two VHS movies (I have a fondness for anthologies)
The Wailing
10 Cloverfield Lane
You're Next
Autopsy of Jane Doe
The Purge 1
Sinister
Unfriended
Let Me In

And probably a few more that I can't think of at the moment. Most of these I would consider good, not great. Some, I would even admit, may be considered bad by a lot of people. And I don't actually think It Follows is terrible, I just said that to annoy the other prick. It just doesn't live up to its potential and, for me, became more flawed with each viewing. I was indeed wowed the first time I saw it

But the story lazily avoids any real exposition and focuses too much on creating a creepy mood and atmosphere through the soundtrack and camerawork. Similar to, but not quite as bad as, The Witch. In fact, it's a consistent trend in modern horror movies to explain very little and just making what is essentially a creepy music video. Creating a sense of dread can be great, but you should have a solid story to back it up. One of my favorite horror films, Rosemary's Baby, does an amazing job of slowly building the tension and putting you in Rosemary's shoes and making you feel the paranoia and subtle terror. But it also has a perfectly coherent story and a satisfying payoff

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That's quite a irregular list

*Masterpieces*
I saw the Devil
The Wailing
Autopsy of Jane Doe
Let Me In

*Not Great, but Not Bad*
VHS movies (kind of bad movie but great guilty pleasure)
The Invitation

*Just Meh*
Insidious
Unfriended
The Purge
Sinister

(Julia's Eyes and You're Next yet to see)

Movies like The Wailing or Jane Doe are way over It Follows. But... Insidious? Sinister?? No way.

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Sinister is definitely not better by most standards. But I enjoy it for what it is, a very simple story with effective scares and a decent movie monster. And Ethan Hawke always delivers a solid performance. It is not great by any means, but it doesn't aim to be. I can accept a movie that doesn't have lofty ambitions as long as it does what it aims to do relatively well. I like Insidious for similar reasons, and because it's one of the few modern haunted house movies that isn't totally boring

It Follows, on the other hand, is a clearly ambitious movie from a multi-hyphenate filmmaker. It tries just about every trick in the book to impress viewers: Gory opening scene, literary references (what do they mean? I doubt anyone knows or cares enough to figure them out), scary grating music playing over slow-mo scenes, the shock of seeing the monster as a nude woman pissing herself, purposely ambiguous time period and futuristic technology, cliffhanger ending. Etc etc.

So if I see a movie with lofty ambitions, I judge it accordingly. Do I literally think all of the movies on my list are better than It Follows? No. Like I said, they have their own flaws. But these movies haven't been heralded by critics as masterpieces or examples of great filmmaking. From my list, only The Wailing has a better RT critic score than It Follows (the audience score is much lower)

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It's an example of a movie with a good concept but poor delivery. It goes from being creepy to silly about 30 minutes in.

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Yup, this is the correct opinion

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Horror is a tough genre to get right for me
My list:classics

Rosemarys Baby
The Exorcist
Night of the living dead
Alien
Invasion of the body snatchers (1978)

Last 20 years
High tension
Wolf creek
Kill list
It follows
Hereditary

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I agree that this was sorely disappointing. It's pretentious garbage masquerading as something unique and creative. I got to where I couldn't wait for it to finish. As a final attempt for some insight, I tried to follow the commentaries in the Bonus Features and gave up after hearing "original". My impression was that it's very loosely and sloppily based on the concept of a succubus/incubus, a demon that attacks through sexuality and will even follow its victim. This film https://moviechat.org/tt0082334/The-Entity did a better job with that premise.

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Yeah, agreed. It is pretentious. Haven't seen it with Blu-Ray commentary but that sounds hilarious. How jaded have we become as moviegoers that originality in and of itself is subject of such high praise?

I can write a story about a sex-addicted platypus that travels the world looking for a cure for his addiction, but can't so everywhere he goes he fucks animals of whatever species is native to the area. Until he reaches Hollywood and the non-stop orgies and decadence is too much even for the platypus so the non-stop sex causes him to have a heart attack just at the moment that he discovers the cure for his insatiable libido

There, that's an original story, never been done before as far as I know. Doesn't mean it should ever be turned into a movie

It's a bunch of nonsense bunched together into a story that doesn't make sense, but it's given a pass because it's meant to "evoke the feeling of being in a nightmare". That's just lazy. In that case you could make a 2 hour collage of creepy incoherent images and call it a "nightmare movie". The little seashell phone that's meant to bring into question the year in which the movie takes place, the random literary references (T.S. Eliot and Dostoyevsky), the muddled STD metaphor...they're all signs of a writer just throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks. Hoping that if they make the movie confusing and vague enough that people will fill in the blanks with their own "profound" guesses as to what it all means

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Your last paragraph is spot on as a summation.

Re profundity, I guess this was meant to be an example of the nonlinear style of film making (sardonicism).

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