Why was The Mandalorian's fan service more well received than Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker's fan service?


https://io9.gizmodo.com/the-rise-of-skywalker-and-the-mandalorians-fascinating-1841028589

"The Mandalorian might not be in such a hyperactive mood, but it would be hard to deny that its commitment to fan service isn’t as deep as The Rise of Skywalker’s," says James Whitbrook. "So what is it about The Mandalorian—a show that made some people scream in adulation over a return to the Mos Eisley Cantina and some sand—that makes its catering-to-fans approach so well received in a way The Rise of Skywalker’s hasn’t? If anything, it’s a question of scale. If what makes Rise’s indulgent approach equal parts eminently frustrating and delightfully silly is the fact that its stakes are so grand—that it is shaping our understanding of what Star Wars is, what the Skywalker Saga at large is, on a galactic scale—then having a preponderance for calling back to what came before gets in the way of what could’ve been set up for the future. In turn, The Mandalorian’s intimacy is one of its greatest strengths. To us as an audience, the existence of Baby Yoda is a huge event because we only know of one such other being of his species on the galactic scale, but for Din Djarin and the rest of The Mandalorian’s heroes and villains? The Child is just that: a child. Who he is and where he’s from are concerns, but they are concerns because they want to see the Child protected from harm (or, in Werner Herzog’s case, exploited by the ashes of the Empire). The thrust of The Mandalorian’s season arc is not in fleshing out Baby Yoda’s Wookieepedia page, it is Din coming to care for his new ward and how it changes him as a man and a bounty hunter."

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What do you mean by "fan service?" If you mean "giving SW fans what they want to see" then the sequel movies do very little to give SW fans what they want to see, while The Mandalorian gives SW fans a lot of what they want to see.

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Good point.

I'd understood "fan service" to mean titillation at the expense of story, which I can certainly see as a complaint about TROS, (probably applied to 50% of the movie, really) but makes no sense to me whatsoever when applied to the Mandalorian.

I haven't read the whole article, so I don't know whether Whitbrook redefines the term here, but in the context of this quote, I think he's working with some other definition.

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Fan service in the opening crawl that made me cringe:

"The dead speak! The galaxy has heard a mysterious broadcast, a threat of REVENGE (Get it? Revenge of the Sith! Fan service.) in the sinister voice of the late Emperor Palpatine.

General Leia Organa dispatches secret agents to gather intelligence, while Rey, THE LAST HOPE (more fan service) OF THE JEDI,(Return of the Jedi?) trains for battle against the diabolical First Order.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren rages in search of THE PHANTOM EMPEROR, (Instead of Menace! More bad fan service) determined to destroy any threat to his power…."

Rise had bad, clunky, over-the-top fan service in it that didn't make sense most of the time. They repeatedly refer to the original trilogy in a stupid way.

This youtube clip did a great job at explaining fan service as "Part 3: Nostalgia at any cost" and runs about 4 minutes:
https://youtu.be/BD5mLw0A8vI?t=445

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Yeah. WORST. OPENING CRAWL. EVER.

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...Yuck...

So glad I didn't watch that garbage. I'll watch it for free way down the road. Until then, FCK this movie, Rian Johnson, Jar Jar Abrams and that ugly BITCH Kathleen Kennedy.

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And Bob Iger.

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Yes, fck him, too.

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Opening crawl was great, you just hate the DT cuz there was a black guy in it.

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Because The Mandalorin gave fan service that fans actually wanted to see and actually made sense to the SW lore?

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The Mandalorian might be good star wars, but its mediocre tv. HBO and Netflix have far better shows with superior acting and storytelling.

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You are not wrong. Hopefully it will improve in season two

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Mandolorian lacks horsegirl and Emo man child that alone makes it superior in every way.

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I haven't watched that show yet (as I'm waiting to subscribe to Disney + until the MCU shows come out) but I've watched numerous Youtube clips and must say...those felt more like what I wanted from a modern Star Wars than ANYTHING this turd sequel trilogy has done. I can't even fully explain it. There is just...SOMETHING about The Mandalorian scenes I watched that touched that already-jaded Star Wars fandom of mine and, for the briefest moments, reminded me of that old Star Wars magic I haven't felt in years. The atmosphere, cinematography--SOMETHING about it feels more like what I expected from modern day Star Wars. Those turd sequel trilogy films do NOT possess that heart. NOTHING.

And I will say this: I am NOT a Boba Fett fan and that armor never meant anything to me and yet here I was, liking what little of this "Mando" character I saw. He evoked such emotion through that mask and it made me smile, remembering how I felt the same way about Vader in Return of the Jedi.

The Mandalorian is different...at least from what I saw of those clips. I liked those clips alone more than the entirety of The Force Awakens.

That sequel trilogy needs to be DE-CANONIZED and redone with Jon Favre. He obviously understands Star Wars. He's obviously a fan unlike those assholes Abrams and Johnson...and ESPECIALLY more than that BITCH Kathleen Kennedy.

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Yep, Jon Favreau is the first person since 1983 to understand how important cinematography and framing a shot is to getting the correct SW look. Favreau is the chosen one now.

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he just wrote most episodes and produced, he didn't direct

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Saw in the DailyMail where Favreau was working with Meghan Markle's agent, Prince Harry. Meghan as the strong woman lead in the next SW flick, perhaps?

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mandalorian is a pretty well written story - with decent acting, sfx, action and humor. SW sequels and prequels, on the other hand..... are poorly written. the acting is all right (OK, it was shitty in prequels), sfx is decent, the scripts though.... horrid, at best. At some point, hollywood will understand that scripts are just as important as sfx. I undersand why they need a lot of sfx in films - films which lack sfx can be viewed at home with no great loss in terms of visuals, while sfx driven films are better viewed in big screen theaters. but the scripts.... they really need decent scripts as well, in order to make real long lasting blockbusters. Instead.... we got sw prequels, sequels and remakes of every other franchise which was decent once upon a time, but which doesn't need to be rebooted, because all reboots pale in comparison to the originals.

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The Mandalorian realistically exists within the established SWU - while trying to slowly expand on it.

The ST is more about taking everything that was surveyed by focus groups as 'being a core part of the SW brand' and somehow working it into films while also catering to the representation demands from management.

Two entirely different approaches.

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