Does anybody even really care anymore?


I grew up as a SW fan, I never dressed up or anything but I loved the movies, the characters and the toys and games, and I always saw it as THE quality scifi universe.
Then they made the prequels, I was older and I realized Lucas has never meant to be that cool as the first trilogy, the ewok creator took over with his worse geeky, uncool, heavyhanded, pedant side.
But it was still SW.
Now with the last two pieces of post modern crap, it's not SW anymore, that universe is lost and what's left doesn't even interest me: I immediately automatically reject these new installments as another uninspired tie in for the corporate machine, as insipid and safe and obvious as yet another Lego videogame.
Does anybody even care anymore?

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I'm probably not even going to see this one at all.Leia,Luke and Han are gone.These next generation newbys just don't interest me much.

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I've seen the last one only on tv and it was a chore, couldn't care less about going to the cinema.

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Do I care? Well, I can take it or leave it.

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I do its still the greatest franchise

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I've been a Star Wars fan literally my whole life. Some of my earliest childhood memories are of the original trilogy. In fact, when I was a kid, we called them Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi.

The original trilogy has been my favorite set of movies of all time for as far back as I remember. Still is.

The prequels were disappointing but I still felt the Star Wars magic in theme.

I originally loved The Force Awakens and was over the moon to have what I'd considered to be something close to the original trilogy back again. Time went on, however, and my opinion of TFA started to change for the worse. I must have had nostalgia goggles on--the same ones that had me initially loving The Phantom Menace. As more time passed, I grew to hate how the Big 3 never shared a scene together and never would. I grew to hate Kylo Ren and found him whinier than Anakin. I hated how Rey seemingly needed no training to be a Jedi with how overpowered she was...and I was one of her original defenders! Old IMDB archive information can prove that I was a HUGE defender of TFA. Some people here might even remember me.

Then, the spoiler information came from The Last Jedi. I thought it was bad fanfiction at first. When I realized it wasn't I did something I've never done in my entire life: cancelled my movie ticket. My wife and I share the same lifelong fandom of Star Wars and she was just as appalled as me. We didn't watch it--even with people around us saying: "come on! Just give it a chance! It's STAR WARS!". Nope--didn't watch it. Lost all interest and became very angry with the crapfest spewed out.

We finally did catch it on Netflix a few months ago and it was actually WORSE than people said! I was thinking (hoping against hope, I guess) that maybe it would be better than it sounded. Nope. Horrible. Simply horrible. I was actually bored to tears with it as well...that has NEVER happened to me before. Even the middle section of Attack of the Clones was more compelling than this SH!T.

I hated every single thing about The Last Jedi--especially the Finn and Rose scenes. I hated all the Kylo/Rey exchanges, Snoke, emo Luke, that weird purple-haired SJW character, the PETA-pandering scene on that stupid casino planet...ugh! UGH!!! Just awful.

Star Wars is so tainted for me now that I can't even bring myself to watch the original trilogy anymore. In fact--I've been avoiding buying all Star Wars merchandise--not out of protest, mind you--but simply because I cringe every time I see it now. I know that, eventually, I'll take up the original trilogy again and forget about all this Disney garbage, but...I'm sort of off Star Wars for now. I'm still a fan of the old films (that won't change) but I can't get into it right now. Disney killed it. They killed my characters. They killed their futures and their happiness. They killed the lore.

When you're a lifelong fan of something it's hard to watch it blow up in your face. Not to sound melodramatic, but the feeling of it amounts to something similar to betrayal.

There's no saving this dumpster fire for me just short of Disney selling the rights back to Lucas and de-canonizing the whole mess. NOTHING they do at this point will change the damage they've already done. We'll NEVER see Han, Luke and Leia together in the present and we'll know that they all received miserable outcomes to their futures after that happy Return of the Jedi ending. Nothing can fix that.

Episode IX makes me feel insulted as it's nothing but a giant "We're sorry! We're trying to make amends!" with their obvious "Please come back, fans!" campaign. Palpatine? Seriously?

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dteam6, the force is strong with you!

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Too bad it's not strong with Star Wars anymore. :(

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Well said.

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Thanks. I just wish I didn't have to say it.

As a literally lifelong Star Wars fan, it really hurt to write that in ways I can't even express. Star Wars literally DEFINED certain parts of my childhood as I'm sure it did for a lot of us.

Disney managed to do the impossible and churned out something far worse than Lucas ever did with his prequels...and that's saying a LOT.

You know what's so magical about Star Wars? It's that "galaxy far, far away". The second you inject all these modern SJW politics into it, you just killed that great magical illusion and ruined the "escape".

And SJW politics are, sadly, only ONE of a MYRIAD of problems with Disney's take on Star Wars: soulless lack of a real story (I mean--they killed the EU off but then replaced it with essentially...nothing. No real lore to speak of), absolute disrespect to established old characters, disrespect to fans and...the worst offense: destroying that magical escapism of Star Wars with political messages literally beating us over the head.

I mean...there's NOTHING to speak of here. NO memorable new villains. NO new lore. NO interesting new characters that I can think of--everything feels forced. Nothing natural. There's nothing here. Disney is literally just leeching off the old movies like crazy and filtering it into their own crummy content.

Bad as they were, the prequels still possessed a soul. They still felt like a true escape. They were still detached enough from our human world to feel like that "galaxy far, far away" and I didn't feel beaten over the head and insulted.

I HATE Disney Star Wars and will never contribute my money to their Star Wars films again.

Some people will disagree with me, but there is NO redemption at this point. Not in my eyes. Nothing short of selling the rights back to Lucas will be satisfactory to me. No matter WHAT they do, it won't change the fact that Luke, Han and Leia had horribly sad endings and never saw each other in the same room as a trio again.

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I'm in a similar place, except that I never liked TFA. I thought it was a lame remake of ANH. Still, I went to see TLJ in the hopes that some of the story that was set up in TFA would be further developed and at least partly paid off, and for the return of Luke. After seeing the horror show that TLJ was, I swore off ever paying to watch another Star Wars movie.

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It's amazing, isn't it? The Last Jedi truly IS as bad as everyone says and even WORSE! In fact--you can't even do the hatred of it true justice, really. It's just awful in every conceivable way, shape and form. I've watched better Star Trek episodes at 3am when I couldn't sleep and I'm not even a Star Trek fan.

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No. The only things I am interested in are: John Williams' final "Star Wars" score, and Palpatine being back.

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Stopped caring when Lucas started to mess with the original films, then really lost interest with the prequels which really could have been any type of film in the end.

These Disney ones are just beyond awful. And the SJW shit makes me walk away at the best of times with movies and tv shows.

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Basically saying anything like this makes you a bigot right? Well according to the 'newest' fans of the SWU at least.

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Why would I care? This franchise is not for me. I'm just an old white male who saw the original movie in the theater so by the definition of Disney SW I'm an evil, backwards oppressor who is everything wrong with SW... Why would I want to watch exactly? It would be like going back to an abusive relationship at this point.

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Buttholio, what a poetic name!
Yes, it's sad that the original fans have been cornered in the punishment bench by Disney.
Lucas complained about old fans complaining, but he always respected their opinion and tried to explain himself (and his many poor choices). He also said that his movies were meant for kids, but understood the value of his legacy, and his new movies were always intended as a deepening of his vision. Anyway, that was his explanation, not an accusation towards older fans.
Disney is really just saying "this is my ball now, and I don't want you to play with it anymore". After we, pretty much, payed for it!

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There is some truth to all of these points but these are micro situations, they are minutiae, on a big picture level, on the macro level....these just aren't good films.

It isn't "these" fans and "those" fans.

The Last Jedi just wasn't a good film.
If they would just put out good films this wouldn't be happening.

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That's totally my opinion too, but asking for just good movies nowadays is asking for too much.
At this point, I would be happy with just a honest effort (as opposed to: just a multinational scheme to get $$$).

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It seems to me that the greatest majority of people responding to my op do NOT care anymore.
But there's also a lot of other posts here with theories on what's gonna happen and how to make a decent movie to save the franchise, so maybe somebody does still care.

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