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So the humans are no longer after Unobtainium...


...but rather, some substance in the brains of the intelligent whale-like creatures on Pandora that stop ageing in humans?

Seriously?

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I think the whalers were after the whale brain juice, and humans were wanting to colonize the planet.
I assumed Earthlings figured out years ago that they could capture those floating islands to get their unobtainium fix.

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The plot is they want a backup earth. Not sure why, isn't it just a moon sized world?

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isn't it just a moon sized world?


You got that backwards. It is a world sized moon.

There is no size requirement between moons and planets. No scale that says above this size it is a planet, below that size it is a moon. The only thing is that a Moon is going to be smaller than the planet it orbits. but it may be larger than some other planet. Saturn's moon, Titan, is larger than the planet Mercury.

Pandora is a moon of a Gas Giant, Polyphemus, much like Jupiter. It is more than capable of having a moon nearly the size of Earth. Pandora is about 75% the size of Earth, but with about 80% of its gravity.

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Why would they colonized a world that they can’t even breathe in? Why not find a world that has breathable air

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to clap some blue alien cheeks thats why

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They weren't colonizing it. That's your error.
They were exploiting it's resources.

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I think they just wanted to strip Pandora of all its resources, as presumably the Earth's resources were depeleted or being depleted. So they'd go after Unobtanium on dry land and whale brain juice in the sea, whatever it was economically worthwhile to transport from Pandora to Earth.

I don't know if it'd ever be feasible for humans to colonize a planet with a toxic atmosphere, unless they set up an airtight underground civilization and only came to the surface to mine portable resources. I don't think that it'd be possible for the civilization we've been shown to change the atmosphere of an entire planet to something more breathable.

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A world the size of our moon wouldn't have sufficient gravity.

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But a moon near the size of Earth would.

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I just wish they would tell us why earth is dying, as if that is the only reason man colonizes space.

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..and Things.

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Overpopulation and pollution, I think.

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I suspect most of earth looks like the industry seen in Bridgehead and Hell's Gate.

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And what an overpopulated planet needs most is an immortality serum, right? Keep the people who are already overpopulating the planet living and breeding longer! That'll help!

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Gee who could guess what the explanation is going to be?

Could it start with 'climate' and end with 'change'?

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Every single plot point introduced in this movie was immediatly dismissed and not brought up again. It was like an outline for an 800 page novel.

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I'd guess it's setting up the already announced sequels.

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The group we spent the most time with was quite simply after revenge.

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Hey not just whales. Philosopher* whales.
PHILOSOPHER. WHALES.

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I was shocked to see unobtanium wasn't mentioned in the entire movie. Since humans took down the tree under which lies the biggest deposite, the most logic thing was to go there when they returned, now that Omatikayas moved to another place.

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I presume the Unobtanium mine in that area was being reactivated... off camera. And that the reason so many forests were being burned was that the forest both made it possible for the native people to live there, and got in the way of mining.

Like I said, I think the invaders were after every resource it was financially worthwhile to transport from Pandora to Earth, and when the sequel set on the frozen poles (wild guess) is made, there will be a third super-valuable resource under the ice.

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Cameron needed to make humans more evil.

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