I thought this was going to be more of a one-off, light comedy but this new trailer makes it out to be a much more intense film.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwmDH12MAA4
The imagery suggests this could be somehow directly relating to the Secret Wars, and hints that there may be some sort of multiversal merge that introduces the Fantastic Four or the X-Men into the MCU.
Tone is very different. I think finished post-production recently, so they need another trailer to promote it.
share25% of this trailer is with Robert Downey Jr, Chris Evans and Thanos.
This shows how much confidence they have in this garbage movie.
exactly. it as basically "hey remember all these other characters you love!!! remember all these things Captain marvel didnt take part in or was barely in!! yaa come see our movie please!"
also did they really show the villian dying at 1:34?
also they didnt show them switching around once? the marketing has been all over the place. they tried the "look how zany it is they all switch!!" now thats totally forgotten and its "remember when marvel was good?"
Actually looks like a genuine sequel to Cap Marvel (2019) with call backs to Infinity War/Endgame, rather than some spin off movie of the D+ series co starring Brie Larson
And the 'they're here' is enough to intrigue fans.. Xmen?
Might be enough to save this movie bombing? We'll see
Watch none of this is even in the finished product and what you're seeing is specifically designed for the trailer only to sell this at the last moment considering how poorly this is tracking??
shareI think they might have misjudged the level of interest women have in seeing superhero films and the lack of interest men have in seeing superhero films about a diverse group of chicks.
shareMy sense is that the majority of movie-goers don't pay attention to gender. I don't care at all who's in the film. If it's good I like it, if it isn't, I don't. The first Captain Marvel film was excellent, and I hope this one is, too. I have a couple tickets to see it on Thursday night with my son. I showed him the first film this morning to prepare him for part 2. I hope the film lives up to its predecessor.
Honest question-- why do you care about the gender of the star of a film you see?
Men and women like different things, including films. Men don't want to see 50 Shades of Grey and women don't want to see Expendables. It's just the nature of things and the studios have always been trying to entice the other sex to watch films they aren't interested in but their significant other is. Now its just gone overboard, where they pander so much to the female crowd that they make films unappealing to the original demographic.
I actually wouldn't want to live in a world where my wife likes all the same things I do and vice versa. It's nice that the genders have different interests.
Superhero films tend to appeal more to men than women. It doesn't matter if the hero is male or female. My wife has no interest in Marvel films, so I see them with friends, or in this case, for the first time with my son. I don't get the feeling that the hero being male or female matters to most people.
shareIf that were the case there would be an equal amount of male superhero comics and female superhero comics because no one would care if the superhero was male or female. It might have something to do with people living vicariously through the protagonist.
shareI see no connection between what I wrote and your response. Because superhero fans want great superhero stories and aren't caught up in the gender of the hero doesn't in any way mean that half of all superhero stories would feature female heroes. There are many, many reasons to expect most superheroes to be male, and most people being open to female superheroes doesn't negate any of them.
The only thing evident here is that YOU don't want to see any stories about female superheroes. That's fine. There's nothing wrong with that, and you aren't a bad person for feeling that way. We all like what we like. It's when you can't accept or believe or understand how others can have different likes and dislikes that you come off sounding confused or bigoted.
Comicbooks have been for a male demographic since the beginning because women dont buy them and aren't interested in the fighting and hero journey type stories. And naturally that has caused the stories to be about males because men read them and relate to them in some way. Romance novels have been bought by women and thus have women protagonists. Same translates to the films although they are distributed on a much larger scale and thus some women have been interested in them. But they are never going to draw women in like a Taylor swift concert or a 50 shades of grey or sex and the city film.
You can call me bigoted for saying men and women like different things and women will never flock to superhero films like men do. You can even tell me a man can chop off his penis and become a woman and have a baby, but I'm not going to believe you and buy into the hysteria.
Taylor Swift concerts attract nearly as many males as females. Her fanbase is about 52% female, and 48% male. Not that that's particularly important here, but it seemed worth pointing out.
As for the rest of what you wrote, you're suddenly agreeing with what I've been saying. I've said all along that women aren't going to be the primary audience for a superhero film no matter who the protagonist is. Comic books and superhero films are primarily consumed by men, which is why the heroes are predominantly male. When they do throw a female hero into the mix, it doesn't cause some shift in their fanbase. It's still men consuming the product. Most men aren't bothered by the occasional female hero the way you seem to be.
I did not know that about Swift, it is hard to believe.
I didnt say I was bothered by female superheros but it seems they are trying to make entire franchises around them when they aren't very popular to begin with. I could understand a Catwoman sequel with Michelle Pfeiffer back in the day because she stole the show in Returns. But no one really wants to see more Captain Marvel and whatever d-list heroes they through into the new film.
The first Captain Marvel film was excellent. It brought in over a billion dollars at the box office and was a hit with both critics and audiences. A sequel makes sense, and I think a lot of people want to see more of the character.
shareTime will tell if it was the previous Marvel films and the final chapter End Game propping it up "possibly Disney as well" or if my assessment is incorrect and we have crossed the rubicon.
shareWhat is your assessment exactly? That it will do poorly at the box office because the main star is female?
My belief is that it will not make much at the box office for the same reason nearly no films are making money these days-- people in the post-Covid world (although in California it's apparently still a Covid-world, as mask mandates are back in effect) aren't going to the movies as often. During Covid they got comfortable with the vastly inferior experience of streaming from home, and as is always true of human nature, if you give people the chance to do a lazier albeit shittier version of something, they will jump at the chance.
It also has the built-in disadvantage that a number of people-- people like you, I suspect-- will refuse to see it on political grounds even if it's a great movie.
The audience score on Rottentomatoes.com is 45% ROTTEN. https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/captain_marvel
shareThat's hardly a barometer of actual audience response. I'm sure you are aware how easily, and often, that site is manipulated by bots. The closest there is to an un-hackable audience score is Cinemascore, which polls people as they exit the theater. Audiences there gave the film an A. More broadly, I consider the general public opinion. If I talk with dozens of friends and the consensus among us is that a film was excellent, I tend to think that's representative of the overall public opinion. Captain Marvel is consistently mentioned as being among the very best of all the MCU films, an opinion I share.
shareI know most movie scoring websites can't be fully trusted but my God, anyone calling Captain Marvel among the best of the MCU movies is film illiterate.
shareMy nieces are super excited about this movie. There are a lot of female Marvel fans. After all the Captain Marvel movie did really well almost paying for the entire budget back in its opening weekend.
shareMy sons are both excited, as am I. I don't think gender has much of a role in this. People like good movies. Kids don't care at all. My sons were equally excited for Shazam and Barbie. They don't even notice race or gender differences.
One thing I've learned from being a parent is that kids don't see any difference between black and white or male and female, and see everyone as a person. The only distinction they make is kid or adult. Even at age 7, my older son is still unaware of racial differences. This isn't some conscious effort on our part, either. He just hasn't yet realized that the black kids are any different from the white kids or the Asian kids. Skin color to him is like hair color or eye color, and this seems to be the case for all children.
That's fine that this movie is trying to appeal to female fans, but they can't bitch about men not seeing it when it fails, and there has already been some projecting of that.
shareWHY CAN'T THEY?...IT'S A FREE COUNTRY....THEY CAN BITCH ABOUT ANYTHING THEY WANT...MAYBE YOU SHOULD TRY HARDER TO NOT GET SO OFFENDED BY THE THOUGHTS OF COMPLETE STRANGERS.
shareWho is saying that?
shareNo one, but it fits with his ideology so he'll pretend they are.
share Here, you can eat my ass while you read this article in GQ doing exactly what I said, or you can be mature and apologize.
https://www.gq.com/story/the-marvels-trailer-brie-larson-backlash-trolls
Yours is a typically immature and rude response from someone unwilling to admit he's wrong. The article says more or less exactly what I've been saying all along: that a handful of loud, angry men are going to bitch about a film they haven't seen, simply because it exists, while most, male and female, will judge it based on merit.
That aside, I have zero interest in interacting with someone who can't maintain a level of decorum, or even have a simple discussion about film without resorting to insults. You're free to say what you want in response, as I won't see it because you'll be blocked. My parting advice to you: grow up and learn to behave online as you would in real life.
So you insult me first and pretend to be so insulted by my reply that you can't admit that I proved you wrong. Very nice. Thanks for confirming you aren't mature enough to admit you were wrong, and also confirming that you are a hypocrite.
share Here is an article in GQ.
https://www.gq.com/story/the-marvels-trailer-brie-larson-backlash-trolls
Where in this article does the author say that if the movie fails it will be because men didn't watch it?
I appreciate the link, I read the whole thing.
Dont be a clown rather than admit I was right. The title of the article is " "Of Course Men Already Hate The Marvels" and the entire article is about men being against female lead movies and their efforts to bring them down. Just because it doesn't say those words verbatim doesn't mean it isn't there. I said "projecting of that", which this clearly does. You're being obtuse out of convenience because this challenges what you thought wasn't true.
shareThe article doesn't suggest that the movie will fail, instead it states "...The MCU is far from its 2010s golden age, but The Marvels will most likely be one of the highest grossing films of the year after it hits theaters on November 10..." without any suggestion that early reviews or RT scores will tank it.
shareIt most certainly suggests that men are attempting to attack a movie under the supposed reasoning that they are hating it based on it being women leads. Hell, the title of the article is "Of Course Men Already Hate The Marvels". That isn't how you title an article thats focused on predicicting a films success. The inference is blatent and obvious, particularly given that it uses previous movies as examples.The fact that it doesn't use the exact phrasing is irrelevant. There is a reason that the term "read between the lines" exists.
shareThis article doesn't say what you want it to, it just doesn't.
"they can't bitch about men not seeing it when it fails, and there has already been some projecting of that."
I asked who was saying that, as in who is bitching about movies failing because men didn't go to see it . . .?
This article is bitching about how hateful men are being about female lead films. That's entirely different, But I assume you know that and just don't want to be wrong.
So, are really going to pretend that those two things don't correlate just to avoid admitting you're wrong? The inference that men are against a movie simply because it has a female lead obviously translates to them not going to see the movie. They are practically one and the same, since people don't go to movies they don't want to see, or "hate", since it's the term you chose. Do you go to movies you think you'll hate? I also only said there was projecting of that, which there clearly is. I never suggested that it was word for word in the article. Just try being a grown-up for a moment and simply say "I was mistaken" rather than doubling down on clutching at straws to avoid admitting you were wrong.
shareEVERYONE knows men are bitching about this movie, 'that' isn't what I doubted, obviously.
shareGreat Trailer hdhub4u
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