In this movie after the main character's co-workers find out that he is a virgin they try to help him to lose his virginity.
Would this even happen in real life? In real life they would most likely be disgusted of Andy and stop talking to him or make fun of him on daily basis until Andy would quit his job or commit suidice.
My friend since college was still a virgin at the age of 29. The guy was a real nerd. Stereotypical Asperger's person with an overwhelming obsession for WW2 trivia. Women were usually repelled by him. I hooked him up with a woman I knew who was pretty free with her affections. Even so, things were not going anywhere between them. She used to just get him to give her rides to her mom's country house on the weekend and take her out to dinner and a movie now and then. After close to a month they had not even kissed.
One day I decided to tell her that my friend had been born with no penis and that was why he was so shy and awkward with women. The very next day, my friend called me and told me he had gotten lucky with her. I guess curiosity got the better of her, as I had hoped when I made up the "no penis" story.
Things didn't last long between them but my friend developed self-confidence as a result and within 2 years he had met and married the daughter of his mother's cleaning lady.
So, I was not a coworker and I had been a friend for almost ten years, but rather than be disgusted by him, I tried and succeeded in helping him lose his virginity and thereby lead a normal life.
LOL, freaking brilliant.
Thanks! It's one of the things I've achieved that I take the most pride in. Everyone thought the guy would die a virgin, but I changed his life. Some people have ragged on me for it, saying I misled the woman, but jeez, I wasn't there at her place with them when she decided to get naked and screw him. Besides, she probably had a higher bodycount than I have had breakfasts.
sharelol spectacular!
shareHoly shit, that's amazing!
shareI can testify that my buddy had a great initiation, too. I myself had enjoyed the most memorable sexual experience of my life with that same woman a year before I fixed her up with him: Exuberant, vigorous effing in the restroom of the lounge at her grandmother's retirement community, while 12 old ladies played cards in the next room, totally unaware of what we were doing.
She wasn't really my type, though. A bit too kinky and promiscuous for a relationship in my book, but we stayed friends even after she broke off with my buddy.
That should be made into a movie.
shareThanks, Kinky! I don't know if it has enough to base a full movie on, but I could definitely see it as a 'moment' in a movie.
shareDude, it has a beginning, a middle, and an end.
It could totally be turned into a movie.
Spend the first half hour setting up how pathetic and nerdy he is.
Next half hour is trying to get him with women that don't like him until he ends up with the kinky chick.
The moment where they break up is the downer portion of the film, two-thirds of the way into the 90 minute runtime.
The character that plays you in the film (probably Ryan Reynolds or Jason Bateman) would give the nerd a pep talk near the end (probably played by someone like Justin Long or Michael Cera) and knowing that he now has mojo and confidence after banging the kinky chick, he decides to put it to good use and eventually finds the love of his life in the form of his mom's cleaning lady's daughter.
The end.
Roll credits.
If I found this out about a coworker and semi-friend of mine, at Andy's age, I would absolutely try to help him out. I probably wouldn't go so far as going out to clubs with him and trying to hook him up (maybe a bar, a couple of times), but I would definitely be sympathetic, and try to offer him lots of advice about confidence in talking to women.
I would NOT be "disgusted" by him, stop talking to him, or make fun of him until he quit his job or committed suicide. I would feel sympathy for him, as a grown man who has missed out on years and years of sex, which is one of the most beautiful, most basic pleasures of adult life.
At worst, I'd probably crack a few playfully affectionate jokes at his expense, teasing him about it a little, but only while being genuinely supportive at the same time.
Who would be disgusted by the fact that someone is a virgin? Or stop talking to him or make fun of him? What kind of weird world view do you have where you think anyone would do that?
shareOP's cynical worldview can be developed, fostered and reinforced by attending any public high school in North America.
shareMaybe a high-school in America in a late nineties movie
shareI know first-hand that Canadian high school in the 80s was a savage jungle for anyone who didn't fit the jock/player mold.
share😂
shareI legit can't speak for Degrassi high in the 80's, I weren't there. I'll take your word for it.
Lol. But yeah I mean I agree. But that's high-school. Shits almost universal. Kids are cunts. Cruel they can be.
That may have been the case at your school, or perhaps you were unfortunate enough to be in that sort of situation, but I don't think that's a blanket truth. I went to high school in the U.S. in the 1980s, and saw nothing of the sort. I bounced around, too, attending 4 high schools in 5 years, and none of them remotely resembled anything that I've seen in movies. I never saw bullies freely roaming halls beating up kids, I never knew anyone who was stuffed in a locker or had his head flushed into a toilet, or any of the other standard Hollywood fare. There were kind kids and mean kids, smart kids and dumb kids, popular kids and nerds, and fights broke out, but the sort of bullying you see in films never existed anywhere that I was.
shareI think his friends would help him. Sure.
shareMen are not disgusted by virginity.
What happens in real life depends on what kind of people everyone is, and so on.
This particular scenario has multiple possible outcomes.
There was someone who helped a super nerdy guy get rid of his virginity by sharing a girlfriend - that, of course, led to a lot of problems and verbal fights, until the relationship ended.
Then there are people that want to help, but there's really nothing they can do.
Natural alphas don't know how to break it down so a nerdy simp (or simpy nerd?) could learn PUA skills step by step until they become natural PUAs. It takes a lot of hard work and systematic training 'in the field', it's one of those things you can't just learn from text, websites or books.
Basically, the only working way for a friend to help a nerd like that is give working, functional, working, real-life information and knowledge about the female psyche.
There have been many stories that would've gone much differently, if only the main characters of those stories had had a little bit of information. Sometimes a tiny amount would've changed the outcome.
The worst problem of these Michael Scotts of the world is ignorance, cluelessness, missing and lacking information and of course WRONG information. Romantic comedies give 100% wrong messages that do not work in real life. You can't seduce a woman by praising her - talk is cheap, and all attractive women have heard praise all their lives, it's only going to bore them - it's like complementing rich people on how wealthy they are.
The only way to -really- help a guy like that, would be to give them proper PUA information (or course), help them train in PUA skills 'in the field', become their wingmen and give them all the knowledge and information they can get.
The thing is, the final part of that information is, 'there is no pot of gold at the end of that rainbow'.
They should also hear the anecdotes of the former nerds that became PUAs..
You know, those stories that PUAs tell to warn other men that this road does not lead to happiness.
Just like Zen Koans, those stories can be helpful in realizing what's important in life.
If you are a virgin for decades, you might either accept the situation and learn to enjoy life, or you might become obsessed with sex and desperate about it, until it's the only thing you really think about, and you start believing it's the only road to happiness.
When you become a PUA, it will be fun at first, you get a RUSH, you feel empowered and powerful, and you will find it remarkable, how easily you can just take girls by the hand and move them around in a bar and they're fine with it (women love being led by a confident man), and all that is like living in a celebrational bubble that always pops with an euphoric climax.
Then you have to do it again and again until some day, you are in some nice apartment or hotel room with maybe two really 'hot' girls (let's say a nine and a ten), that most men wouldn't dare dream of, and they're being seductively beautiful as you are all readying for a wild sexual escapade - and you look at their glittery lips and shiny eyes, their impeccable hair and expensive bra that you are preparing to unhook, and then it hits you..
..you don't want to do this anymore. It's boring. It's predictable. It's not going to take you anywhere except a short climax, after which, there's only a feeling of emptiness. It's not going to fulfill you, it's not bringing you happiness. It's a fleeting pleasure, like eating or urinating, and not much more.
You can feel 'intimacy', but even that's basically just an illusion, a short energy exchange, nothing deep or meaningful. It's not going to last, it's not going to build anything for the future, it's just like vomiting, except slightly more pleasurable. All that work and trouble just to chase the hairy end of a gut, basically.
I don't remember the rich guys name, who had a yacht and lots of beautiful bimbos to have sex with all the time (well, name one rich guy that couldn't have that..), and he started complaining about it. He said something like all the 'kitty' feels the same, all the women are the same experience, they feel the same, and you don't even remember the names or the separate experiences anymore. It all becomes a boring blur.
Women are not the key to happiness, but if you are forced to live in celibacy, it's harder (but still possible) to realize this.
Women and sexual experiences can offer you a lot - but it's not a magical euphoric gate that never runs out of juice; it's basically just satisfying a bodily urge, and sages throughout history have tried to tell the masses that no one has ever become enlightened by trying to satisfy their bodily urges.
There is a higher element to life and existence, and no money can satisfy it.
A true, everlasting happiness does not come from hedonism or nihilistic materialism. A 'kitty' can only take you so far, and ultimately offer you nothing. Enlightenment can offer you eternal euphoria, harmony and peace of mind.