And director Harold Ramis stripped of any and all awards he received for this or any other movie. Same goes for the writer. Oh and all of the actors, too!
The reason is obvious: Ned Ryerson's homophobia. It's practically a HATE CRIME and we need to be more WOKE!
Somehow I never got he was supposed to be gay.
shareYou missed the OP's sarcasm. What OP is saying is that Ryerson *thought* Phil was gay by the way Phil was messing with his head with that long, uncomfortable hug and offer to go "somewhere else".
shareOh. That seems kind of a dumb thing to make a big deal about.
shareNot speaking for OP, but he makes a legitimate point about just about every movie ever made being labelled racist, homophobic, misogynist, misandrist, or xenophobic these days. There's probably a couple more phobic or ists I missed.
No, there's nothing homophobic about Ned or this movie, but I'm sure someone will find something to demand it's banning either soon or in the future.
Finally, someone got it. Thanks.
shareI never really understood the 'phobia' label. IF you have a phobia, it's not something you choose, but something you can't help. Obviously you can sometimes cure yourself of certain phobias, but you don't get phobia by choosing, it happens because of a traumatic event, for example.
How anyone in existence could have 'HOMOphobia' (which I am sure isn't an actual, scientific term for an actual phobia, but just a tactical shaming language invented for an agenda purpose, not to depict reality accurately), is beyond me.
Homosexual people are usually the least scary and most harmless people I have ever encountered. I can understand being disgusted by, let's say sexual behaviour that doesn't turn you on - if I am disgusted by someone mating with a bicycle, am I suddenly 'bicyclesexualphobic'? No, I am just disgusted. I don't fear that individual at all.
I am sure there are plenty of homosexual people that are disgusted by the sight, smell, feeling or even thought of heterosexual acts or activities. A gay man would probably be repulsed by the thought of a man performing oral sex inbetween a woman's legs. No one sees anything 'phobic' or wrong with this.
But when JUST as naturally, a heterosexual man would be disgusted by the sight, smell, feeling or even thought of homosexual acts or activities, it's suddenly a PHOBIA of HOMOs. This makes no sense whatsoever, and is prejudice and bigotry against heterosexual people.
Why is it that heterosexual men can be shamed by multiple labels, but no other group can? Because of this imagined 'patriarchy'? (When all the evidence points to actual matriarchy) Find out who you are NOT allowed to criticize to know who rules over you. White, heteosexual men are definitely criticized more than any other group ever. So they can't be the ruling class, now, can they?
In any case, no one is AFRAID of gay people - heterosexuals just don't need to have other people's sexuality rubbed on their face every day any more than homosexuals do.
I agree with your suggestion that the word phobia is overused and minimized in the context. It is similar to how today people loosely throw around the word nazi to describe someone they don't like.
I think the problem with your understanding is that heterosexual men with homophobia ARE afraid of homosexuals. It makes sense, like you said, to distinguish between being disgusted by someone else's sex act vs actually afraid. I think people with homophobia are afraid of being hit on by a homosexual and/or have a fear of homosexuality "corrupting" themselves or someone they know.
Does that make sense?
"I think the problem with your understanding is that heterosexual men with homophobia"
There's no such thing as "homophobia," except in the original and unrelated sense of the word (fear of sameness/monotony), and even then it's extremely rare.
The sense of the word that you're talking about is laughable, since "homo" doesn't mean "homosexual" except in a modern slang sense (it's considered an offensive slang term no less, which is hilariously ironic), and even if the buffoon who came up with the newer sense of the word (George Weinberg, 1972) had instead called it "homosexualphobia," it would still denote a condition that doesn't exist.
"ARE afraid of homosexuals."
No one is, just as no one is afraid of people who have "sex" with animals (bestiality/zoophilia).
"I think people with homophobia"
There's no such thing. You've been tricked.
"are afraid of being hit on by a homosexual and/or have a fear of homosexuality "corrupting" themselves or someone they know."
Uh huh. Just like people are afraid of zoophiles hitting on their family pet or the pet of someone they know, right?
"Homophobia" isn't a real condition for the same reason that "bestialityphobia" isn't a real condition. It's just the key word in a name-calling tactic employed by dullards.
lmao. This is too ignorant
share"lmao. This is too ignorant"
Comical Irony Alert
In any case, since you didn't address, let alone refute, anything I said, your tacit concession on the whole matter is noted.
I'm assuming you mean sarcasm here?
"are afraid of being hit on by a homosexual and/or have a fear of homosexuality "corrupting" themselves or someone they know."
Uh huh. Just like people are afraid of zoophiles hitting on their family pet or the pet of someone they know, right?
"Homophobia" isn't a real condition for the same reason that "bestialityphobia" isn't a real condition. It's just the key word in a name-calling tactic employed by dullards.
Implying people aren't disturbed by beastiality. I mean... I don't get it. Yeah they are
"Implying people aren't disturbed by beastiality."
I didn't imply any such thing.
"I mean... I don't get it."
Obviously.
"Yeah they are"
Again, obviously, and I'll assume that "they" includes you. So does that mean you fear zoophiles, i.e., that you're a "bestialityphobe"?
LEAVE THE PETS ALONE!
shareAs long as they used a trans groundhog in this flick, I'm good with it.
shareNot speaking for OP, but he makes a legitimate point about just about every movie ever made being labelled racist etc
Thing is though, a large proportion , and I mean a lot , I'd go so far as to say most ,
of these labels are from trolls and jokers like the OP.
I'd say 80% at least
Which doesent help the problem,
most respondants are outraged at "PC police" "yet again"
When in fact , most of the time , no one is offeneded , no one wants it 'cancelled'
This encourages more idiots to cry "racist" just for attention
A self fuelling cycle
There's some truth to that, but you have to admit the calls for banning films or songs is indeed a real thing. Any censorship is bad, and still it goes on. Warner recently removed Yosimite Sam's six shooters for Pete's sake..
Yesterday I heard the "sanitized" version of Baby It's Cold Outside on the radio, and it offended me (the offense isn't the song specifically, but the fact they felt it needed to be rewritten). But I don't call for its banning, I just won't listen to it.
Every time a call is raised for banning or adding "warnings" to films, most of us are incredulous. No wonder that the level headed among us poke fun at the woke crowds.
Here's a new list of films that now need warnings:
https://variety.com/2020/film/news/gone-with-the-wind-problem-films-forrest-gump-1234640666/
That right there is exactly what I'm talking about.
Those films dont "now need warnings"
Thats variety magazine , desparate for something to write about, making up their own shit .
no one except whoever wrote that article thought that , and maybe the author doesent think that.
although , granted Possibly some (snowflake?) people do think that now as a result of reading the article.
The preamble metioned Ricky mooney china man impression , that does sound a little "outdated"
but the first 3 films , and reasons are laugable!
Dirty Harry needs a warning on it becasude he's a "maverick cop" ? ffs!
I'm off to read rest now .. too funny
LOL.
shareI'm not a fan of this movie because of not liking Bill Murray, but I'm not a homophobe. It sounds like you are tho.
shareOh ... another one of those people who, because someone ticked him off years ago by not letting him play ball on the team, wants everyone to not have any fun in life. To you I quote from the movie "Good Morning Vietnam"
"You are in more dire need of a bl0w j0b than any white man in history"