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Why Do These Men Feel Threatened by Trans People?


I don't get it.

I *do* get why some women have concerns about single-sex sport, and bad faith actors assuming trans identities encroaching on single-sex spaces (like prisons and changing rooms), and I understand why many men may feel compelled to support them on *this* basis, and this basis alone.

BUT clearly this is a bigger 'existential' issue for professional transphobes like Matt Walsh, and I'm trying to understand why. Why are trans people any more of a 'threat' to the rest of us than gay men and women, and likewise, why would gay men and women be any more of a 'threat' to the rest of us than other straight men and women?

Let people be, as long as they respect other people's rights and boundaries.

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Maybe he wants to be an elegant lady himself and envies the trans community for their bravery to live their truth.

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He probably doesn't feel personally threatened, but the trans cult is a real threat to young people, especially teenage girls. In addition, trans "women" are being allowed in real women's sports, real women's locker rooms, and real women's restrooms. It's got to be stopped.

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A lot of these men have never shown much of a concern for women's rights and protections before. Ironically, a lot of these anti-trans 'defenders of women's rights' seem to be perfectly relaxed with, if not outright in support of, SCOTUS overturning Roe v Wade, an act that does have a genuine impact on women's rights and liberties.

And this is my point. It's one thing to feel concern about the 'potential' (if extremely marginal) threat trans rights may have on women's safety/women's sports, but I don't believe for a moment that any of these people genuinely give a damn about safeguarding women.

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You are starting from a fundamentally incorrect place - Men , including people like MW, do care about women. They care very much, which is why a lot of guys are very protective of women.

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And this is my point. It's one thing to feel concern about the 'potential' (if extremely marginal) threat trans rights may have on women's safety/women's sports, but I don't believe for a moment that any of these people genuinely give a damn about safeguarding women.


I think that view is inaccurate, certainly so in my case. Even the men who could care less about women's rights, or even genuinely misogynist men, might only be reacting negatively to issues of unfairness in competitive sports. Even on that limited front they might not care were it not constantly in the news. The view being pushed by some that this reaction represents latent homosexuality or unrealized sexual perversions sounds like nothing more than lazy, self-affirming, junk psychology.

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Because deep down they're sexually aroused by Trans, particularly closeted conservatives Men who shroud their disapproval with the facade iof Christian values,cand frearmongering rhetoric about Trans Boogeymonsters raping children, which is actually something closeted conservative men want to do themselves.

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It sure seems that way. If history has taught us anything at this point it seems like the people who are vehemently against LGBT have been wrestling with their own sexual identity.

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Your armchair psychology is embarrassing. Just stop.

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I wonder if Matt Walsh might do an Eddie Murphy (getting arrested with a transgender escort in his car)?

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How much longer are you all going to try that routine? "Oh, you don't like it, that must mean you want to do it." Does that mean anyone opposed to murder secretly wants to murder? Does that mean anyone opposed to racism is secretly a racist? You see how easily that kind of conspiracy theory falls apart?

Try something new.

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No one is threatened by Trans People, we are mostly concerned that the left wants biological men to be able to walk into women’s locker rooms, compete in women’s sports and break records, and they want to teach children that if you are straight you are an oppressor by default and if you are LGBT then you are some kind of a victim and society owes you something.

Not to mention we are very frustrated by the fact that the trans community can’t even define a woman or if they do provide a definition then the word “woman” is in the definition which turns it into a circular argument because to know what a woman is we have to know what a woman is.

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No one is threatened by Trans People, we are mostly concerned that the left wants biological men to be able to walk into women’s locker rooms, compete in women’s sports and break records, and they want to teach children that if you are straight you are an oppressor by default and if you are LGBT then you are some kind of a victim and society owes you something.

Where is actual proof of any of that? I mean solid evidence. Teaching children about acceptance of those different from them is not actually teaching them that they are oppressors. I'd really like to see the large number of cases of this happening that seem to be suggested here constantly. Where are all the LBGTQ+ people who are claiming victimhood?

I keep hearing about the intolerant left. Yet what laws have they passed forcing people to be trans. What laws have they passed ensuring that kids are exposed to drag queens? I can't think of one, but I sure can think of several banning drag shows, banning trans people from washrooms, also banning trans people from sports.

Here's the thing. If a man wants to assault a woman in a locker room or washroom, he is going to do so. If he wants to dress up as a woman to do so, he will do so. Trans people are 4 times more likely to be assaulted than Cis people. A predator is a predator. If you think that trans women pose more of a threat to women in a washroom, than men pose to a trans women in the men's washroom, I think you are very wrong.

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I never said anyone passed laws forcing them to be trans, the problem is the left wants to allow children to make the decision to take puberty blockers and chemically castrate themselves when their brains aren’t fully developed yet and don’t know who they are yet. Trust me kid, who I thought I was at 16 was a lot different than who I am now. As for schools, there is a time and a place for everything and teaching this stuff to kindergartners is inappropriate. Let kids be kids, and they can have the sex talk and the gender ideology when they are older.

And if a man walks into a woman’s bathroom he will be arrested for harassment, the problem is our society is allowing biological men who dress up as women to go into womens locker rooms, and the reason is “they feel uncomfortable in men’s locker rooms”, well they are making the women in that locker room feel exactly the same way they would have felt in men’s locker rooms yet they don’t seem to care. It’s pure narcissism. I think you are very wrong.

EDIT: here is the proof you asked for: https://www.foxnews.com/us/parents-rail-against-nj-school-districts-woke-transgender-curriculum-can-we-just-get-back-teaching

There were also instances where a girl who needed counseling over her home life was told by the counselor to start IDing as a boy and not to tell the parents. I’m guessing you’re alright with that also.

We don’t feel threatened, we are annoyed that apparently we are being bullied into agreeing with the fact that transgender women are women or else we face public shame or firing, we are concerned that children are allowed to undergo irreversible gender changing surgeries when they don’t even know who they are yet and we are disgusted that biological men are allowed to shower with biological women when the fact is that they are making everyone in the locker room feel the same way they would have felt in the men’s room. Why can’t we have separate locker rooms for transgender men? Why do they have to be around women when going to the bathroom? I thought they just didnt’ want to be around men? The fact that they apparently need to have women around them when they are taking a dump is pretty disturbing.

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A trans woman is not just a biological man dressed as a woman.

Again, when this became an issue there were ZERO accounts of trans women attacking women in washrooms. Most women have probably shared a washroom with a transwoman and never even noticed. But you know what did start happening? CIS women were being harassed about not looking female enough to be using those toilets. We don't have urinals in our washrooms. There are stalls. No one should have any idea what someone has between their legs. If someone is actually checking, I'd say they are the predator.

What are they actually teaching in kindergarten? What is the actual lesson that children are learning? I mean if the lessons are just that your sex doesn't need to define how you act, how is that an issue? I think children should learn about themselves and their bodies when they ask questions. There are very appropriate ways to do it, without over explaining, but children start exploring themselves at very young ages. Avoiding answering questions can be very harmful.

As for puberty blockers, are you a doctor? Do you fully know the side effects? In my country there are guidelines for puberty blockers. Can't start them until the age of 14. But it's not just age. There are other considerations like emotional maturity, parents' consent, longstanding gender discomfort and a careful psychological evaluation. You think it's wrong, fine. I think allowing children access to guns is wrong, but that's just me. I worry when I see kid rock shooting up cans of beer. For all I know next it will be trans people.

I find it funny that so many people want the government to stay out of their lives, especially when it comes to their choices to vaccinate themselves and their children, but also want the government to ban other parents medical choices for themselves and their children. At some point we have to trust that those in the medical and psychological fields know more than we do on trans issues.

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A trans woman is a biological man dressed as a woman. It is a biological man pretending to be a woman.

I never said trans women were attacking women, I said that they want to be in the womens room because they feel uncomfortable around men, well now the women feel uncomfortable around them. Do they care that they make people uncomfortable? Or does society only need to bend over backwards for them?

I posted an article outlining the transgender ideology that is being forced on children. Again there is a time and place for everything, talking about sexuality to 5 year olds isn’t appropriate.

I don’t have to be a doctor, I am someone with something resembling a moral compass. Children do not know who they are and therefore giving them life altering drugs/surgeries when they aren’t even fully sure what they want is wrong, just like it’s wrong to allow children to have sex or drink. Children should only have guns with adult supervision and the fact that you just compared shooting cans of beer to trans people is beyond absurd. What are you saying? That trans people have the same worth as cans of beer? Children should be taught about being responsible gun owners and gun safety and then when they are at the legal age they can choose to own one if they are ready to take on the responsibility. I never once said I wanted children to be able to own guns.

Where did I say that I wanted to ban medical choices? All I said is that they should wait until they are consenting adults, it’s just like how children can’t be in pornographic films. Would you want to allow children to be in pornos? I mean it’s just their life choice, correct? If you want to debate honestly that’s fine, but if you are going to continue to lie and misrepresenting what I’m saying then kindly fuck off.

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I absolutely disagree that being trans is just pretending. I don't know if it's a mental illness. I don't know if it's a mutation. I don't know if it's genetic. I don't know if it's physiological. There are people who study it and those people might have answers one day. I know that I don't want people to have to live trapped in a body they can't stand.

Teenagers, who are post puberty, do have an idea of who they are and who they want to be. Most have a really good idea of their sexuality, and a lot of teenagers have sex.

Again there is a time and place for everything, talking about sexuality to 5 year olds isn’t appropriate.
If a 5 year old asks a question about sex or sexuality, it is absolutely okay to talk to them about it. Obviously in a not too detailed manner, but children that age often ask where babies come from. Telling them lies is ridiculous. They should know proper names for their body parts. By the time kids get to be 8 or 9 they should be learning something about their reproductive systems. Some girls get their periods at 8. They should know what that is. As for gender identity, you could be right that maybe there is too much info given, but I have yet to see a curriculum that is forced that shows me differently.

My country does not allow any gender affirming surgeries until adulthood. I strongly agree with that. Absolutely. But at 18 one can drink (well where I live), get married, join the army, move away from their parents, so I think if they really want to do it they should be able to. That doesn't mean that I don't think that there won't be those who regret what they do. As for the hormones/puberty blockers, they are reversable. Yes, there are side effects. But this is why it's between the patient, the doctor, and hopefully the patient's parents.

A child in porn is completely different than a child being on puberty blockers. I didn't say that you, specifically want to ban medical choices, but you did bring up the left, and the right sure is trying to ban medical choices.

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Even if they legitimately believe it that doesn’t make it true, dingleberry.

Your brain isn’t even fully developed until you are 25, there is a very good chance a few years down the line they may decide they don’t want to be women, but if they are allowed to have the surgery and the hormones at 17 then the damage is already done.

Ummm a teacher should never be talking to a 5 year old about sex. That’s the job of the parent. It’s outside the teacher’s qualifications to talk to a 5 year old about sex. Not sure what country you come from where it’s acceptable to do that.

Again at age 18 you are a legal adult and you can do what you want to. Just like at 18 you can have sex and star in porno films, children cannot do that because as far as the law is concerned they are unable to consent.

Actually it isn’t, both are adult decisions and both will have long term effects on the individuals life going forward. No one is trying to ban medical choices, we are trying to make sure that children wait until they are legal consenting adults before undergoing them. As I said your brain isn’t fully developed until you are 25, 16-17 is too young to know exactly who you are, believe me kid, who I thought I was at 16 isn’t who I am right now. 18 may be too young, I don’t know but the law says at 18 you are an adult so I say do what you want.

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Even if they legitimately believe it that doesn’t make it true, dingleberry


Do you know any trans people? Do you have any idea what they are really going through? And now you call me names? I honestly thought that we were having a discussion here. Sharing ideas, even though we disagree. I did not get nasty with you.

Talking about sex with a 5 year old is not giving the birds and the bees talk. There are very common questions that children ask. I know this because of my education in child and educational psychology. You are correct that teachers shouldn't be answering in depth questions about sex at 5 years old, but they can talk to a child that age about consent. Not letting others touch them. I would also much rather answer questions about what is sex, if kids have been talking about it on the playground. I would also let the child's parents know exactly what they have been asking me. But yeah, if I were teaching a class and there were rumours going around about what sex is, I'd make sure I knew what they thought sex was, and then I'd go from there. But parents would be involved.

What are you speaking of when you mention consent? The age of consent where I live is 16, not 18, but a 16 year old can't be in porn. I do not consider a 17 year old to be a child, but then again I also didn't say that a 17 year old should have surgery. Also, you should read some of the papers written by neuroscientist about the magic 25 number. It's not some magic age where we absolutely 100% start using more of our prefrontal cortex. There is one, you can look for it if you want, where they were using MRI and tried to predict the brain age of people based on what they thought based on the scans, and some 8-year-old brains exhibited a greater ‘maturation index’ than some 25 year old brains. So there is that.

Once more I will say that I don't know what causes transgenderism. If medical science one day can discover a treatment for it that isn't actual transitioning, then I would be for that. Right now though, both medical doctors, and psychologists/psychiatrists seem to agree that transitioning (however that may look for each individual as many do not get surgery) is the best treatment I'm not going to argue with them.

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And now you’re arguing something completely different. Whatever they may or may not be going through is irrelevant to whether they are actually women, non sequitur from you. And it can’t be as bad as you make it out to be as they have the entire mainstream media cheering them on and anyone who dares to disagree with them risks being publicly shamed or fired. And oh you don’t like being called names? Now you know what it’s like when I’m called a “transphobe”.

Telling children not to touch each other and telling them about sex are two totally different things. OK the parents should be involved, yes they should, the thing is the left in this country doesn’t even want to involve the parents, again they think it’s OK to tell children to identify as the other gender and the parents don’t have a right to know.

Well here the age of consent is 18, so as far as I’m concerned when they are 18 they can do what they want. And geez maybe I should have said 25ish, its around that age that a person’s brain is fully developed, really a person should have to wait until about that age but our society has defined an adult as 18 so there you go.

The bills you showed were just restricting it to minors, again to protect children because children typically don’t fully know what they want or who they are. There was nothing in your article that suggested that adults wouldn’t be allowed to be transgender. Again you are being dishonest, you are trying to equate age restrictions to protect children to outright bans.

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Where did I call you a transphobe?

they think it’s OK to tell children to identify as the other gender and the parents don’t have a right to know.


Who are "they"? Teachers? Because telling kids that's its' okay to be different, and that we all don't fit into two boxes is a lot different than telling girls that they must become boys, and vice versa. Please show me these people who are telling kids to be trans. Because if that actually is a thing, that's a problem.

And geez maybe I should have said 25ish, its around that age that a person’s brain is fully developed


Again, maybe you should read a little more on what that actually means, how the study came about, and how accurate it is.

The bills you showed were just restricting it to minors, again to protect children because children typically don’t fully know what they want or who they are.


"Legislators in Kansas, Oklahoma, South Carolina and Texas have introduced bills barring health providers from offering care such as hormone treatments or surgery to people as old as 26."

"The lawmakers who have introduced bills with 26 as an age limit have said that it's because the brain isn't fully developed until the age of 25 — an assertion health experts say is misleading."

Oh look, someone else says the age of 25 is misleading.

Also, when speaking of mifespristone and Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk, if you can't see where that could be heading if a Judge can ban a medication, then I don't know what to tell you. If he can ban a drug that he and Christian lobby groups don't like for women, than what would stop other judges and other lobbyists to do that in other states with hormone therapies for trans people, surgeries, or really any other medical treatment that they don't seem to think should be allowed? This should scare you. It should be cause for concern that it made it to the appeals court.

You may not understand transgenderism, and that's fine. But I don't see how you have the right to tell others what treatments may or may not be right for them. Their doctors and mental health teams know these cases better than you do, and have more of an idea on how to treat them.

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Telling children not to touch each other and telling them about sex are two totally different things. OK the parents should be involved, yes they should, the thing is the left in this country doesn’t even want to involve the parents


So this needed it's own reply. What do you think sex education actually is? I'm really curious. Because consent is part of sex education. Learning about gender is part of sex education.

For example. R_Kane had this post the other day https://moviechat.org/general/General-Discussion/6435cde89f5398621d5bfd25/Amazons-girl-with-the-stash-ad?reply=6435f3ebdca412153a7bbf82

If a child brings up a girl with a mustache in class, it is absolutely something that should be discussed. Depending on age, the amount of details needed changes, but it's okay to let children know that everyone has facial hair. Some more than others, and that it's okay.

It doesn't have to be part of a sex ed lesson, but because it is something that comes with puberty, it actually is part of sex ed.

Where are these cases that "the left in this country" doesn't want to involve the parents? That is a really broad statement. It's political, and divisive. What do "they" not want to include parents in?

See the hypocrisy in that is that you are claiming that the left doesn't want to include parents but not providing examples, yet the bills being passed that are mentioned, are excluding parents choice as well.

The number of children known to be on puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones in the U.S for 2021 was 5,063. So while numbers are going up, it's still a small number when you consider that 12 million children struggle with getting enough to eat in the U.S.

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Teaching kids not to touch each other isn’t sex education. That’s just learning how to respect each other’s boundaries. You don’t need to have a sexually explicit lesson just to teach kindergartners to keep their hands to themselves.

I already told you there are incidents of school counselors telling children who come to them and are depressed that they should just start identifying as the other gender and to not tell the parents, it’s sick and it’s obscene.

Even if there was only one child who was given puberty blockers or was chemically castrated that is enough to sound the alarm. It’s not only inappropriate but it’s child abuse.

Also here you go: https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2022/01/27/clay-parents-sue-district-claim-counselor-discussed-elementary-students-gender-identity-without-their-knowledge/

EDIT: here’s another: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/california-school-district-accused-secretly-counseling-child-transition-gender-parents-wrath

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You don’t need to have a sexually explicit lesson just to teach kindergartners to keep their hands to themselves.
OMG. Who said anything about a sexually explicit lesson? Again what do you think sex education is?

Even if there was only one child who was given puberty blockers or was chemically castrated that is enough to sound the alarm. It’s not only inappropriate but it’s child abuse.
So even if the parents are on board it's child abuse? Because you say so. You, who are not a doctor, not a psychologist, not a neuroscientist....I don't know what your qualifications are to be judging this. So yeah, this is where it scares the hell out of me that judges, now seem to think that they have to right to ban drugs. Also puberty blockers are not the same as chemical castration. Maybe stop watching Tucker Carlson.

Umm, reading that article, I don't see a cut and dry issue. I see a possible child abuse case on the side of the parents, and I see that the counselor (not a teacher) may have overstepped, but it wasn't in a classroom setting. The child tried to commit suicide twice at school. The article says that the weekly meetings started after the suicide attempts. The father says suicide attempts came because of the meetings. This is one that I need to know more about the case.


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I have shown you evidence of sexually explicit lessons. The left wants to teach kindergartners how to masturbate.

My qualifications? What are you qualifications? So basically I’m not allowed to have an opinion unless I’m a medical professional? WTF kind of twisted logic is that? Are you seriously trying to tell me that a school has a right to tell a child what gender they should identify as and the parent has no say? I never said puberty blockers were the same as chemical castration, maybe you should learn to read.

It’s not just a case of overstepping, it is child abuse. The counselor has no right to tell the child what orientation they should have, what gender they should pretend to be, etc. And the parent absolutely has a right to know what’s going on. Whether the parents were abusive or not is an entirely different and separate issue. The school tried to convince the child they were the other gender and you don’t seem to have a problem with it. That’s NOT THE ROLE OF THE SCHOOL and it’s NOT THEIR CHILD!!! Please tell me you are trolling and that you aren’t really this stupid.

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Hahahahahaha!

I have shown you evidence of sexually explicit lessons. The left wants to teach kindergartners how to masturbate.


You have shown me no evidence of sexually explicit lessons. None!. Where has any kindergarten teacher shown any kindergartner how to masturbate??? Where are you getting this?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

The counselor has no right to tell the child what orientation they should have, what gender they should pretend to be, etc


There is no evidence that the counselor told the child what gender they should be. The child tried to commit suicide twice! In both cases that you shared we don't know the full story. Is it troubling that the counselor was not in touch with the parents of the student in California? A little. Again, I don't know the whole story, but as a school counselor, if there is a danger to the child at home, they shouldn't have to. I'm also not seeing where these counselors were forcing to be a different gender. I'm reading that they were calling them by different pronouns, and names, but it doesn't say anywhere that those were forced on the child. I would like to see the findings of the courts in both cases. Because there absolutely are bad school counselors out there. There are also many, many who just want to protect children and keep them alive.

But considering that you really think that the big bad left wants young children to masturbate??? WTF??? Who's trolling???? I'm done with this conversation. You are not coming from a sound place.

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Here you go kiddo: https://nypost.com/2021/05/29/dalton-parents-enraged-over-masturbation-videos-for-1st-graders/

Then the counselor should be reporting the higher ups and contacting the parents, they shouldn’t be telling the child to identify as the other gender and they absolutely should not keep the parents in the dark. There is nothing more you need to know, if the child came from an abusive household that is an entirely separate issue, dingleberry. How would you feel if a teacher was telling children that guns were good and everyone should own one?

I’m coming from a completely rational and objective standpoint, sorry you are so brainwashed into your privileged little liberal bubble you crybaby snowflake.

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No one is trying to ban medical choices, we are trying to make sure that children wait until they are legal consenting adults before undergoing them.


https://www.axios.com/2023/03/29/transgender-health-care-adult-ban-bills


Also, lets not pretend that there aren't bans on women's health care and their medical choices. If a Judge can reverse the FDA's decision on mifepristone, which was approved 20 years ago, what's next? Don't say nothing, because any time a judge doesn't think a drug should exist and there is precedent to get them banned, they will be banned.

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Again your link doesn’t say that “changing genders” will be banned, it says that Republicans want to keep children from changing genders because as I have clearly explained their brains are not fully developed and most of the time they don’t know who they are at that age.

And the woman had the “medical choice” when she chose to have sex. Abortion isn’t a constitutional right and the judge had every right to ban it.

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And I have clearly explained that your comments about the brain not being fully developed have issues.

25 is not a magical age.

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Emotional maturity is everything, children are not emotional mature and therefore cannot make such an important, life changing decision.

I didn’t say someone’s brain automatically turns on on their 25th birthday. Most human brains fully develop around the age of 25, maybe 24 and a half? Maybe 25 and 3 months? But it’s in the 25 range. Of course we have no way to access that which is why we have drinking ages, smoking ages, age of consent in this country. Not a perfect system but probably the least bad system out there.

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Here are some studies you might want to read that show that you really should just drop the whole brain maturity at 25 thing.

https://www.cell.com/neuron/pdf/S0896-6273(16)30809-1.pdf

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3135376/#R33

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2892678/

https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.1602413113


Here's a study that shows that maybe hormones therapies aren't child abuse.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2789423
Findings In this prospective cohort of 104 TNB youths aged 13 to 20 years, receipt of gender-affirming care, including puberty blockers and gender-affirming hormones, was associated with 60% lower odds of moderate or severe depression and 73% lower odds of suicidality over a 12-month follow-up.

Here's another one
https://publications.aap.org/pediatrics/article/145/2/e20191725/68259/Pubertal-Suppression-for-Transgender-Youth-and?autologincheck=redirected


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Totally irrelevant, whether it’s 24, 26, 25, 19, total non sequitur.

The issue is at 16, 17 the brain is NOT fully developed and the child most likely doesn’t know who they are. When I was 16 I wanted a tattoo, my Mom said “no”, now I hate tattoos and I’m glad my Mom stopped me.

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I never said trans women were attacking women, I said that they want to be in the womens room because they feel uncomfortable around men, well now the women feel uncomfortable around them. Do they care that they make people uncomfortable? Or does society only need to bend over backwards for them?


Bingo!

I have daughters and they don't feel comfortable being in a restroom with a male.

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What are they uncomfortable with? Do they have to at school? Is it something that is common for them?

I'm honestly asking here. there was such a panic all of a sudden like 5 years ago, but trans women aren't attacking anyone in washrooms. They never have.


I actually feel safer in the gender neutral washrooms that are becoming more common these days, and my high school in the 90s had them. But they are built for privacy.


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I never said anything about them fearing being attacked. I'm a male and I don't want to be doing my business with a woman in the restroom.

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Yes, because you are a male, not a transwoman.

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Back to the point I was responding to. The trans population is microscopically tiny, but they and leftists feel a much larger segment of society should be subject to discomfort, to prevent discomfort for them. In a civil society, the many don't adapt to the one. The one adapts to the many.

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Exactly. It is a tiny population. Most people who have shared a washroom with a trans person probably didn't even know they were. That's why I don't understand why there is such an issue about it.

If trans people aren't attacking anyone in washrooms, why are people worried about it?

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You not understanding why this makes people uncomfortable is irrelevant. It makes people uncomfortable and they are the vast majority who shouldn't have to conform to such a small segment of the population.

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If it hadn't become a news story 5 years ago people would still not be caring. If people weren't clutching their pearls about it it wouldn't be an issue. Why is it only an issue for transwomen? Are all these women who are uncomfortable with a transwoman using their toilets going to be totally fine with a fully bearded transman using their toilets?

I like the washrooms which have fully encased toilet stalls and sinks just out the open. Anyone can use them and no one was to feel uncomfortable.

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Before it became big news, I'm sure most of it went unnoticed, but now anyone can "say" they're a woman and just go right in. I'm sure that rarely happens but it can and most women don't want this.

Like others have said, the best solution is three restrooms.

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Or the best solution is just minding your own business and not worrying about what sort of plumbing someone has in the next stall.

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Yeah and hope they don't have bad intentions like some have.

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I hope no one has bad intentions.

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No one said trans women were attacking biological women in bathrooms. Biological women feel uncomfortable showering with people who have penises. It’s the same reason why trans women don’t want to be in men’s bathrooms. Why can’t we just have separate rooms for trans women and trans men? Why do trans women have to be around other women when going to the bathroom? That doesn’t make any sense.

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Showers are different than toilets. A lot of people don't feel comfortable showering with anyone else out in the open. Most gyms I go to have at least one or two showers that have curtains or doors.


Why can't people just mind their own business when they are using a public toilet and not worry about who is in the stall next to them? If privacy is an issue than don't have those stalls with gaps and the floor and the ceiling.

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If that’s the case then transgender women shouldn’t have a problem going to the men’s room, I mean why can’t they just mind their own business when using a public toilet and not worry about who is in the stall next to them?

I’m guessing the answer will eventually tie back to we have to coddle and give special privileges to transgenders because of , uh I don’t know, Trump or MAGA or systemic racism or something.

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It's not the transwomen who don't mind their own business in the washrooms.

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So no trans woman has ever not minded their own business? I’d like to see objective proof of this.

And it shouldn’t bother her if there are men in the bathroom, by your standard he should just go in, do his business and then go about his day. The fact that he apparently needs biological women around him while taking a dump is a little weird.

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If it’s not a big deal then “trans women” (biological men) can go to the men’s room. Their problem solved.

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I'm not threatened by pretenders.

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If you aren't inherently threatened by people merely existing outside the norm, you can't understand. None of us can.

You can ask yourself how the people who most often claim to care about the rights of women and children are the ones hurting them the most, by taking away their rights to their own bodies, by telling them they're not old enough to understand sexuality and their sexual preference but old enough to raise children if they accidentally become pregnant, by claiming they're in danger because they might share a stall next to idk a drag queen but they themselves set timers on the ages of teen girls so they can openly sexually harass them the moment they come of age, etc - but you won't find an answer you understand.

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Common sense, decent people don't support murder.

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I don't understand your response tbh.

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Why do you think Matt Walsh feels "threatened"? He's a commentator and he's commenting on something that is clearly harmful to society. You even admitted as much when you talked about sports. However, the harm is much more than this. For example, adults are guiding children to mutilate themselves because of this. Did you know that? Do you think the mutilation of children is ok?

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Why do trans people and their allies feel threatened by the truth?

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