So Al Franken is forced to resign but Trump gets to be president?
I don't get how Trump supporters can give him a free pass.He's no better than Franken or Spacey.
shareAllegations should be investigated prior to any legal action being enforced upon anyone.
Franken stepped down because he knows that some of what has been put forward against him is true, it's not comparable to someone holding an office with allegations and no investigation.
That said, if Trump can be shown to have sexually assaulted someone in a court of law then he, like anyone, should be punished for having done so.
I suppose he could use the Clinton's methods of suppression and murder if it doesn't swing in his favor though - something that also isn't being investigated despite having a mountain of evidence saying it should be.
For the record, I'm no fan of Trump. This is just a messed up situation which requires an enema to clean out all the corruption payed for by the tax paying citizens of the US. The same story is true the world over though, but the hot topic is set by the media and look at them with Polanski and Weinstein 🤔
The Republicans support sexual predators and pedophiles. The Democrats don't.
shareI think you'll find that both sides are without flaws in that regards.
Ed Murray, Jeffrey Epstein, Scott Chamberlain, Robert Menendez, Jacob Schwartz and Anthony Weiner anyone?
And that is just the current stack in the news.
I'm sure the Republicans have just as many but don't think for a second that the Democrats don't support sexual predators or paedophiles because they elected one into the position of POTUS and covered up his many crimes.
Trying this move will ensure Trump gets reelected because those outside of the sphere of celebrity gossip can smell bullshit posturing and running solely on this front will not be advantageous to the Democrat party.
Get some policies the people can get behind and cull the entire swath of corruption sitting in key positions of power within the party.
Conyers and Franken are both stepping down which is the right thing to do. Rapist Trump and pervert Moore are supported by their party which is my point.
Clinton won the popular vote by 3 million votes. The Russians helped Trump.
I'm willing to wait this one out until all the evidence comes to light.
I think that you will be surprised who the Russians were helping by the end of it all.
So far, Trump hired four people who have been indicted. All connected to Russia. Two of them have pleaded guilty. Where there's smoke...
Manafort and Gates Indictment link:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4163389-Manafort-Gates-Indictment-Filed-and-Redacted.html
The indictment reminds me of the quote, "Oh what a tangled web we weave when at first we start to deceive." I don't know how they kept all the money laundering straight.
You are so fucking bonkers.
shareThose who can't reply intelligently will respond with profanity and/or insults. Not even a creative one. How unfortunate that many in the Republican Party have become anti-American by supporting Russian criminals and their cohorts who would undermine and destroy democracy.
shareYou just eat your own words with that Russia stuff.
shareIf you're going to support the Russians, at least get money from them like Trump, Manafort and Gates did.
shareWith this investigation unfolding and people like Donna Brazile coming out with a new book, the more I think it was Hillary with Russia rather than Trump.
shareDeflection. Book came out. Nothing in it.
I prefer to read indictments of Trump's close friends and appointees. Trump took millions from Russian organized criminals who were buying his condos and running illegal businesses from them including laundering money. He was socializing with them and they were later indicted for organized crime.
An innocent Trump wouldn't need to discredit Flynn.
Cite your sources, don't just spew shit, just because his appointees talk to ambassadors doesn't mean anything. It's normal for the president of the United States to reach out and contact leaders around the world.
Besides what about the video of Obama taken after the 2012 election where he was caught saying, "I'll have more flexibility after the election."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsFR8DbSRQE
This a link to the Manafort and Gates indictment. I suggest you read it since it contains evidence in the form of a paper trail.
https://www.politico.com/f/?id=0000015f-6d73-d751-af7f-7f735cc70000
This is a link to the Flynn indictment which he had already plead guilty.
https://www.justice.gov/file/1015126/download
This is a link to an interesting article about Trump, his buildings and the Russian mafia. "Trump Taj Mahal was fined $10 million—the highest penalty ever levied by the feds against a casino—and admitted to having “willfully violated” anti-money-laundering regulations for years."
https://newrepublic.com/article/143586/trumps-russian-laundromat-trump-tower-luxury-high-rises-dirty-money-international-crime-syndicate
That's the same crap we've all seen before. Multiple employees on CNN have been secretly filmed saying "Russiagate" is a "big-nothing burger"
You're probably going to rip your hair out now, but I'll just leave it here, if you want to not read it and call me dumb, then go right ahead, honestly way more informative.
https://www.infowars.com/exclusive-russian-bank-docs-show-how-putin-laundered-money-to-hillary-podesta/
Perhaps you're not aware that Jones is a horrible source.
"Factual Reporting: LOW
On 4/18/2017 Alex Jones’ attorney admitted that Alex Jones is a “performance artist”
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/infowars-alex-jones/
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/infowars-alex-jones-performance-artist-playing-character-lawyer-conspiracy-theory-donald-trump-a7687571.html/
Another thing is that Hilary isn't the president. Trump is the one with the nuclear codes and power to wreck our democracy. The president should be upholding the Constitution - not attacking the press, freedom of speech, freedom of expression, freedom of religion, judges, other politicians, race-baiting, filling cabinet posts with persons involved criminally with Russian mobsters and dismantling agencies meant to protect the American people.
I doubt if anyone at CNN was secretly taped since there's no secret tape. Did performance artist Jones say this? Did you even read the indictments? Money laundering $75 million dollars is not a ""big-nothing burger." Multiple investigations from international Intelligence Agencies including American say otherwise.
BTW, I don't believe you or anyone on this site is dumb. But, I'm disappointed that there appears to be more interest in dividing Americans based on party rather than uniting to defend our country's values. Americans have a tremendous amount in common if you'd allow yourself to see that instead of the divisive crap that some people would use to divide and exploit for personal gain.
Manafort and Gates crimes happened years before the Trump administration. Flynn didn't repeat everything he told the FBI the first time word for word, so they accused him of lying.
New Republic is about as fake to me as Infowars is to you. Infowars always tries to cite sources anyways. Besides, if they did have dirt on Trump for this incident, believe me they would have impeached him a long time ago. Need I remind you this Russia investigation has been going on for quite a while.
Anyways that was the reply I was expecting from you! I doubt you even read, I doubt you're even reading my message, you're just going to play nice guy, but the article it cited sources from other news sources too. That's what Infowars does, takes news sources from all over the world and analyzes it. Alex likes to personify people on air, as a joke and people try to twist his personification into his own words, so that's why he claimed he was a "performance artist" during a custody battle. Because when people get mad at Alex, they only quote him on the joke part. Anyways say what you want, Alex has been proven right on many occasions, he predicted 9/11 would happen and it did.
CNN employees
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=efrVhE1SvwQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2G360HrSAs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dRGMME4VnM
"Manafort and Gates crimes happened years before the Trump administration. "
Please read their indictment and pay attention the dates. It didn't happen "years before..."
https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4163380/Manafort-Gates-indictment.pdf
Are you saying that Jones perjured himself during his divorce trial? If you knew anything about radio personalities, then you'd know most of them play characters. Rush Limbaugh was a Republican for years until it was no longer fashionable. Now, he's a Trump supporter because his followers tend to listen to talk radio more than moderates. Howard Stern was a shock jock until he wanted to have Hollywood friends. When Jones admits during his trial that he's playing a character, then it's time you stop taking him so seriously.
“He’s playing a character,” attorney Randall Wilhite said during a recent pretrial hearing. “He is a performance artist.”
Funny how Jones didn't contact the Feds with names and addresses in order to stop the terrorists before they committed their act. Perhaps he should be arrested as an accessory.
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"Hillary's not president she doesn't matter."
Hillary is very relevant to this argument and always will be. WikiLeaks has never been proven wrong either.
I can't imagine the hell we'd be in right now if she was president, and then have people like you saying "Well at least Trump didn't win!"
You know that Wikileaks works for our enemy, Russia, right?
shareSeriously, how does someone even acquire your opinion? Like I said if they even had anything on Trump, they would've impeached him a long time ago. I left 3 links to the CNN videos you claimed didn't exist.
"Are you saying that Jones perjured himself during his divorce trial? If you knew anything about radio personalities, then you'd know most of them play characters. Rush Limbaugh was a Republican for years until it was no longer fashionable. Now, he's a Trump supporter because his followers tend to listen to talk radio more than moderates. Howard Stern was a shock jock until he wanted to have Hollywood friends. When Jones admits during his trial that he's playing a character, then it's time you stop taking him so seriously."
This is where people lose me with political arguments, "oh he used to be Republican!" Who gives a flying fuck about their political party? It's such a useless argument. Trump used to be a registered Democrat at some point. Republicans used to be the dominating corrupt party in the 80s, things change. The deep state will latch onto any views the people have to stay in disguise. It's a custody battle, the court will twist your words around anyway they can to make you look like a demon, do you really think Jones is making up some master story in his head when he goes on air everyday and talks for hours straight? Not too mention it's always a continuation as things he's said in the past whether it be last year or 20 years ago. He must be a genius conjuring up the greatest fictitious political novel ever or he's actually onto something.
They still don't exist. RT is not credible. Dubbed nonsense. Poor editing.
Four arrests. Two guilty pleas. It's coming.
Trump was Independent, Republican and a Democrat which I continue to tell people. He's only for himself.
Why are you talking about courts twisting words? It was Jones' own lawyer.
Continue to believe in your conspiracies. Sigh.
"They still don't exist. RT is not credible. Dubbed nonsense. Poor editing."
Yeah sure man, I can say that about any video to. You good at reading lips? What are they really trying to say? You think they might be speaking Russian?
I knew you were going to say RT wasn't credible, so that's why I posted 2 other videos from the original source in which they came from.
Trump probably registered Republican because he knew Hillary had the primaries rigged. Do you believe she won against Bernie Sanders? I don't agree with the guy, but he was much more popular than her, and he was marketed as such humble, cool and fun guy for the kids. He honestly probably would have beaten Trump if he had won the primary.
But yeah go ahead and continue to believe that WikiLeaks had a Team of Russians who conjured up this story that spans over 33,000 emails, and those are the ones that weren't deleted! The FBI covered for her and it's quite obvious.
Again it's a custody battle, they're trying their best to label him unstable so he can't see his daughters.
Go turn on NPR and listen to Terry Gross send your mind into brain rot.
*flamboyant sigh*
I just copied & pasted what Jones own attorney said. Live in the land of denial if you want.
One of my hobbies was making films with special effectsso I can see bad FX and editing a mile away.
RT is notorious for spreading Russian propaganda. Even if CNN guys said something, their opinion isn't really worth much. So who cares? I'm more into the indictments themselves because they have a paper trail which is good proof. For instance, if you filed your taxes, but left information off of it, then that's a paper trial. Try denying stuff during an audit. LOL.
I think Trump's party is irrelevant. I don't believe Trumpism is either and he only cares about himself.
"Do you believe she won against Bernie Sanders?"
In my area, she won. I had never heard of him. I agree that he would've won against Trump. I also believe that she took it for granted that she would've won, so she didn't try as hard. She also has a likeability problem which I could never figure out. It's like how people don't like Anne Hathaway for some reason. Go figure.
Terry who?
"Funny how Jones didn't contact the Feds with names and addresses in order to stop the terrorists before they committed their act. Perhaps he should be arrested as an accessory."
Oh get real, I didn't say he had names and addresses. They wouldn't have listened to him anyways. 9/11 was an inside job. Remember the third building that got demolished in New York that day? No? Of course you don't, that's because it wasn't reported on, at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqG6v7KZ_s8
"You know that Wikileaks works for our enemy, Russia, right?"
Oh my god. GET. REAL. MAN. Why would wikileaks expose Hillary and Russia's connection if they were working for Russia? Again, I left 3 links to videos of CNN emloyees calling Russiagate "a big nothing burger." that YOU claimed didn't exist.
It's funny, it takes you days to reply and after all the that time, you still have nothing to convince me.
Of course, I remember the third building! You mean the one which collapsed after its foundation became unstable from the shaking caused by two 110 story buildings collapsing next to it. No conspiracy.
I have a newsflash! Part of my neighborhood had buildings collapsing because of workers using jack hammers along the streets. Blocks of people had to eventually move. No conspiracy.
Any idiot knew that they were going to make another attempt. Why do you think they were having drills and Giuliani had created an emergency response system for terrorism? Duh! The only moron asleep at the wheel was Bush.
Our Intelligence Agencies already know that Wikileaks is working with Russia.
It makes me nervous that you take this stuff so seriously and can't distinguish from a credible source and crap.
I doubt if I can convince you. Continue to believe in the Easter Bunny if you want.
Our intelligence agencies are filled with liars, and have had their hand in meddling in elections all over the world since the 60s.
That wasn't only fishy thing about 9/11 anyways, I'm sure you got a sheet of paper ready to debunk all of them.
Before the 60s too and don't forget the various assassinations and government overthrows. What does that have to do with Wikileaks working with the Russians?
Steve Bannon has some interesting things to say about Trump and his son in that new book. I wonder if Jones will honestly cover that book.
It's just basic common sense. Similar to buildings collapsing during earthquakes because their foundations are weakened. BTW, Osama Bin Laden was a civil engineer and had knowledge about building construction and destruction though I read he hadn't expected a complete collapse though.
I believe another conspiracy is why the buildings collapsed straight down instead of tipping over. They were designed to collapse that way because NYC is densely populated. 110 story buildings tipping over would kill tens of thousands on the ground.
And it was very obvious that both planes were filled with fuel because of the explosions and intense fire that occurred. Yes, prolonged heat would melt steel and cause a collapse.
I am aware of the various conspiracies and they're nonsense. I find them offensive because I know people who lost loved ones in the towers. Very exploitative
That book is about as fake as everything you think you've debunked me on.
And I don't care if you've made little videos before, we're on a movie site we've all done it at one point, I can point out dubbing and audio interference too. You can't tell shit from anything.
Go have fun pretending to enjoy The Last Jedi.
"My button is bigger than your button."
The part of the book that describes Trump like a child sounds pretty accurate.
Not everyone creates FX, but if you have, then you shouldn't be having so much trouble distinguishing bad FX in those tapes.
The Jedi story was a mess, no continuity and Johnson is a hack. Now, I know you're trolling.
He tweeted that, besides the book admits to fabricating within the first pages.
and okay you mogul, what tells that ear of yours that it's fake?
Just curious, you don't believe that a president tweeting about having a bigger nuclear button isn't childish...and nuts?
Steve Bannon, Trump's former pal and advisor did plenty of interviews and bad-mouthing for that book. I believe a reporter also mentioned that he was one of the people who used to leak negative information about Trump to the press.
What a coincidence! 60 Minutes just ran a piece about RT today. If you're interested in watching, here's a link on their website:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/disinformation-warfare/
Yeah I do like it, it sounds like it's actually coming from him as a person. Unlike the presidents we've had the past 50 years.
You expect me to believe some mass marketed bullshit story from a mass marketed bullshit news station? CBS probably helped fund The Last Jedi, that's just a claim I made up though. I wouldn't be surprised if it was true. just because it's been around since before you were born doesn't make it REAL NEWS.
You are so so so gullible. Again, I left 3 links with CNN employees saying Russia is a "big nothing." The first link happened to be RT, and like I said the 2 other links were the SOURCE RT used, and the SOURCE is from an American independent media group called Project Veritas, he secretly films people.
Now please explain me, Mr. fucking Stan Winston where's the editing in those videos?
Jesus, were you even paying attention to the news in 2016? THE MEDIA HATED TRUMP. THE MEDIA STILL HATES TRUMP. The only website in 2016 that was somewhat fair to both candidates was The New York Post. Seriously, when did you see any Pro-Trump articles other than Breitbart and InfoWars? Even Fox News had it out for Trump. Most Americans watch CNN, or any news on cable TV, because they don't really care to watch the news in the first place. You have been indoctrinated so hard, you can't even use your own memory. Most of RT's viewer base is from Europe/Middle East.
" I wonder if Jones will honestly cover that book."
He did actually, and all he did was prove how false the book was. The author of the book, has been blamed many times for making up stories.
https://youtu.be/AqCY5Xufx1A?t=13m23s
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wolff_(journalist)
Isn't it odd that the Wikipedia page has been changed since that video has been posted?
Inb4 you ignore it and claim Infowars made up a wikipedia page, and that Russia conjured up 30,000 emails in their minds and sent them to WikiLeaks.
You are so flawed.
If the book isn't accurate, then how come Trump is angry at Bannon? And why is Bannon apologizing if the book is false?
Trump would have to be really stupid to give WH access to a writer who is known for falsehoods. Why are you supporting someone that stupid?
60 Minutes interviewed the woman who runs RT. I thought you might find the interview interesting. Remove the chip from your shoulder.
I guess you don't know that the NY Post is considered a joke.
Trump denigrates the news media, so of course, he's going to get bad press.
O'Keefe isn't "independent". He gets his funding from conservative groups with an agenda. He's also notorious for editing his videos to deceive. He apologized and gave 100K to ACORN. People lost their jobs because of that idiot. He's being sued now for lying from another group.
Numerous intelligence agencies in the U.S. and Europe say that Russian meddling is serious, but you want to focus on CNN employees allegedly expressing an opinion. You're being selective. Why do you like the Russian government so much when they hate us? Putin is so crooked that people who want to run against him can't. A true kleptocracy. I have a Russian coworker who was left broke when pension was stolen. Imagine having to restart work in a different country at middle- age. Nice to know Putin & his crooked friends are living well while hardworking Russian people suffer.
Jones is playing a character. His lawyer said so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_2vpVbdd5Ro
this guy is full of BS
https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/856313522267017216/photo/1
Again, the book admits it made stuff up within the first pages.
I never said I love Russia, just because I don't think Russia wanted Trump in office doesn't mean I love Russia. Why do you take everything for face value? Where's your critiquing mindset at? Russia was trying buy our uranium through Hillary, I don't want Russia meddling with us at all.
I watched the interview, it was a big nothing burger just like Russia gate. Did you watch the interview?
Why are you ignoring the fact that Wikipedia changed it's whole page for Michael Wolff completely? Again why do you keep ignoring the fact that over 30,000 emails exist on WikiLeaks, do you really think the Russian government just made all of those up?
Again, how much anti-Trump did you see during 2016? You either saw a lot or you didn't really pay attention at all, you probably just read the headlines. Trump bad mouthed the media because he knew Americans were already weary of it, and it got him tons of free press. It was smart move on his part, not the Russian government. I think you're just jealous because you couldn't of done it at all. if Russia did meddle in our election then they didn't do a good job at all, remember Hillary did win the popular vote. And yes NY Post is a tabloidly newspaper, it was one of the only ones posting neutral things about the election, doesn't this just prove my point even more?
Again, people like to edit video of Jones impersonating people and say "Look! He really believes this stuff!" So yeah he has to say he's playing a character, I'd say the same thing if someone took my sarcastic joke seriously.
Bannon forced from own company today so can't be lies since he's hated by Trump. Trump hasn't defended Bannon against any so-called lies in book. 5:48 of video names more people interviewed. Tillerson called Trump a dope a few months ago. Trump must be dope for allowing WH access to Wolf and talking to him.
The book doesn't admit that at all. That makes no sense, btw. An author isn't going to write a nonfiction and then say it made stuff up in same book. That's dumb. Why would you believe that? Close to 600 library holds on book in my county! They need more copies. LOL.
RT woman already admitted that the Russians were supporting Trump for election. Did you watch interview since you don't appear to know what's in it?
O'Keefe and Jones have no credibility. Jones "playing a character" statement in court would be perjury unless it were true. The reason would be irrelevant.
So you don't believe that any children were killed at Sandy Hook as per Jones belief?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2018/01/05/trump-book-author-michael-wolff-made-a-damaging-admission-on-the-today-show/?utm_term=.1c39bfd32a74
HAHA Did YOU watch the video I sent? I went to 5:48 like you said, he just fucking stutters like a lying idiot, doesn't name ANYBODY. The guy admits he only talked to Trump for about 3 hours through a course of a couple months. 3 fucking hours. He's been in office for a year. He's the president, of course he's going to let people talk to him, that's his job! Go back to the video I sent, go to 3:01
"Did you speak to any of the president's cabinet members for this book?"
"I did not."
Best selling book in your county? Ok, whipty-fucking-doo man that's great. Works of fiction get sold out all the time. This proves your point how?
YES I WATCHED YOUR FUCKING INTERVIEW,THERE'S NOTHING IN IT. JUST BECAUSE SOME OF THE RUSSIAN POPULATION WANTED TRUMP IN OFFICE DOESN'T PROVE ANYTHING, YOU'RE MORE OF A NUT THAN YOU THINK ALEX JONES IS.
I already explained my reasoning on Alex Jones court statement, you're just easily taking it for face value because it makes you comfortable.
Well much like you assumed that I'm in love with Russia, you're also assuming that I think nobody died at Sandy Hook. Yeah the Sandy Hook thing is everyone's go to counter argument when they want to have the moral high ground, all he did was pose questions, then the press had a hey-day of selectively editing his videos and broadcasting them, I doubt you've even tried to see what was going on for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJxE2Sp5ED4
"9/11 was an inside job. Remember the third building that got demolished in New York that day? No? Of course you don't, that's because it wasn't reported on, at all."
Knock off the conspiracy bullshit. You're giving us conservatives a bad name.
This is why I'll never give Alex Jones any credibility. He pushed this 9/11 conspiracy shit for over a decade.
The FDNY examined the damage to WTC 7, and determined that it was going to collapse. And then it collapsed, just like they said it would. I can show you the firefighter testimony. So if Building 7 was part of the conspiracy, then the FDNY was involved in it. Stop spreading lies. You're just making our side (conservatives) look stupid.
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CONSERVATIVES VS LIBTARDS HUHUHUHUHUHUHUUUUUUHHUUU
Still doesn't dispute the fact BBC was reporting about Building 7's collapse 20 MINUTES BEFORE Building 7 collapsed.
I don't care about your stupid right wing vs left wing battle. "Oh you make us conservatives look bad" most of you dumb asses do that yourselves, I speak for myself. I don't like it when people complain about the government their wholes lives, then the minute some guy who hasn't been chasing political power all his life comes into office, people think they can just magically start pointing fingers at him. Then again people don't actually watch the news anyways.
"Still doesn't dispute the fact BBC was reporting about Building 7's collapse 20 MINUTES BEFORE Building 7 collapsed."
In a day of confusion, you're going to take a newscast mistaking an imminent collapse for a collapse that actually happened as proof of a conspiracy?
Like I said, I can post firefighter testimony of how badly Building 7 was damaged in the collapse of the North Tower, and how they knew it was going to collapse, and how they pulled back from it. And then it collapsed, just like they said it would. Like I said, if the building was intentionally demolished, then the FDNY would've had to have been involved in the conspiracy. A conspiracy that killed hundreds of their fellow firefighters.
Do you realize how stupid that makes you sound?
So, yes, you do speak for yourself. 9/11 conspiracy theories are bullshit, and those promoting them just prove what idiots they are.
I do speak for myself why are you repeating me?
So the towers collapsed and the only other building surrounding them that decided to also collapse was the one used by the CIA for investigations?
BBC is known for lies and is known for hiding in plain sight.
"the one used by the CIA for investigations?"
Exactly the type of bullshit claim you conspiracy nuts toss around.
First, you make the claim with no proof. Secondly, you really want us to believe they imploded an entire building to remove 'proof' that they were having 'investigations'? The CIA has investigations all the time. There's no secret about that.
And the building didn't 'decide to collapse'. The North Tower fell on it. Don't believe me, believe the firefighters who were there:
"We walked over by number Seven World Trade Center as it was burning and saw this 40-plus story building with fire on nearly all floors." - FDNY Lieutenant Robert Larocco
"Just when you thought it was over, you're walking by this building and you're hearing this building creak and fully involved in flames. It's like, is it coming down next? Sure enough, about a half an hour later it came down." - FDNY Lieutenant James McGlynn
"I walked out and I got to Vesey and West, where I reported to Frank [Cruthers]. He said, we’re moving the command post over this way, that building’s coming down. At this point, the fire was going virtually on every floor, heavy fire and smoke that really wasn’t bothering us when we were searching because it was being pushed southeast and we were a little bit west of that. I remember standing just where West and Vesey start to rise toward the entrance we were using in the World Financial Center. There were a couple of guys standing with me and a couple of guys right at the intersection, and we were trying to back them up - and here goes 7. It started to come down and now people were starting to run." - FDNY Deputy Chief Nick Visconti
"All morning I was watching 7 World Trade burn, which we couldn't do anything about because it was so much chaos looking for missing members. - Firefighter Marcel Klaes
"When the building came down it was completely involved in fire, all forty-seven stories." - FDNY Assistant Chief Harry Myers
"The concern there again, it was later in the afternoon, 2, 2:30, like I said. The fear then was Seven. Seven was free burning. Search had been made of 7 already from what they said so they had us back up to that point where we were waiting for 7 to come down to operate from the north back down." - Captain Robert Sohmer
"Then we had to move because the Duane Reade, they said, wasn't safe because building 7 was really roaring." - FDNY Chief Medical Officer Kerry Kelly.
"At this point Seven World Trade was going heavy, and they weren't letting anybody get too close. Everybody was expecting that to come down. - Firefighter Vincent Massa
"Building #7 was still actively burning and at that time we were advised by a NYFD Chief that building #7 was burning out of control and imminent collapse was probable." - PAPD P.O. Edward McQuade
"At Vesey St. and West St., I could see that 7 WTC was ablaze and damaged, along with other buildings." - M. DeFilippis, PAPD P.O.
"Because it really got going, that building Seven, saw it late in the day and like the first Seven floors were on fire. It looked like heavy fire on seven floors. It was fully engulfed, that whole building. There were pieces of tower two [sic: he probably means tower one] in building Seven and the corners of the building missing and what-not. But just looking up at it from ground level however many stories -- it was 40 some odd -- you could see the flames going straight through from one side of the building to the other, that’s an entire block." - Firefighter Tiernach Cassidy
"We were down about a block from the base of the World Trade Center towers about an hour ago. And there was a great deal of concern at that time, the firemen said building number 7 was going to collapse, building number five was in danger of collapsing. And there's so little they can do to try to fight the fires in these buildings, because the fires are so massive. And so much of the buildings continues to fall into the street. When you're down there, Dan, you hear smaller secondary explosions going off every 15 or 20 minutes, and so it's an extremely dangerous place to be." - CBS-TV News Reporter Vince DeMentri
"And 7 World Trade was burning up at the time. We could see it. ... the fire at 7 World Trade was working its way from the front of the building northbound to the back of the building. There was no way there could be water put on it, because there was no water in the area." - Firefighter Eugene Kelty Jr.
"The time was approximately 11a.m. Both of the WTC towers were collapsed and the streets were covered with debris. Building #7 was still standing but burning. ...We spoke to with a FDNY Chief who has his men holed up in the US Post Office building. He informed us that the fires in building 7 were uncontrollable and that its collapse was imminent. There were no fires inside the loading dock (of 7) at this time but we could hear explosions deep inside." - PAPD P.O. William Connors
"I walked around the building to get back to the command post and that's when they were waiting for 7 World Trade Center to come down. ...They had three floors of fire on three separate floors, probably 10, 11 and 15 it looked like, just burning merrily. It was pretty amazing, you know, it's the afternoon in lower Manhattan, a major high-rise is burning, and they said 'we know.'" - FDNY Chief Thomas McCarthy
"There were hundreds of firefighters waiting to -- they were waiting for 7 World Trade Center to come down as it was on fire. It was too dangerous to go in and fight the fire." - Assistant Commissioner James Drury
"My first thoughts when I came down a little further into the site, south of Chambers Street, was, "Where am I?" I didn't recognize it. Obviously, the towers were gone. The only thing that remained standing was a section of the Vista Hotel. Building 7 was on fire. That was ready to come down." - Charlie Vitchers, Ground Zero Superintendent
"The whole south side of Seven World Trade had been hit by the collapse of the second Tower, and there was fire on every floor." - Fire Captain Brenda Berkman
"At that point, Seven World Trade had 12 stories of fire in it. They were afraid it was going to collapse on us, so they pulled everybody out. We couldn't do anything." - Firefighter Maureen McArdle-Schulman
"The 7 World Trade Center was roaring. All we could think is we were an Engine Company, we have got to get them some water. We need some water you know. With that, we positioned the rig, I don't know, 3 quarters of a block away maybe. A fire boat was going to relay water to us. I don't know if I have things in the right order, whatever, if we were getting water out of a hydrant first. Jesus Christ -- ... You just see the (inaudible) way and you know, we are hooking up and we wound up supplying the Tower Ladder there. I just remember feeling like helpless, like everybody there was doomed and there is -- I just felt like there was absolutely nothing we could do. I want to just go back a little bit." - Firefighter Kevin Howe
"When I got out and onto a clear pile, I see that 7 World Trade Center and the customs house have serious fire. Almost every window has fire. It is an amazing sight." - Captain Jay Jonas, Ladder 6.
"The other building, #7, was fully involved, and he was worried about the next collapse." - Firefighter TJ Mundy
"7 World Trade was burning from the ground to the ceiling fully involved. It was unbelievable." - Firefighter Steve Modica
"So I attempted to get in through the Barkley Street ramp which is on Barkley (sic) and West Broadway, but I was being held back by the fire department, because 7 World Trade, which is above the ramp, was now fully engulfed." - PAPD K-9 Sergeant David Lim
"We could hear fires crackling. We didn’t know it at the time, but No. 7 World Trade Center and No. 5 World Trade Center were immediately adjacent to us and they were roaring, they were on fire. Those were the sounds that we were hearing. ...At the same time, No. 5 World Trade Center, No. 6 World Trade Center and No. 7 World Trade Center were roaring. They were on fire. And they were right next to us. So we have all that smoke that we’re dealing with." - FDNY Capt. Jay Jonas
So yeah, you're claiming that a building already wired for destruction, happened to have the North Tower collapse on it and damage it enough to make the firefighters think it was damaged enough to collapse on its own.
Are you really that stupid?
It doesn't matter if there is a video of Hillary giving Putin a briefcase full of money while giving him a lap dance and bragging about how they are going to steal the election. The libs are going to refuse to believe anything other than Trump stole the election.
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"The Republicans support sexual predators and pedophiles. The Democrats don't. "
Now that's comedy gold. All you have to do is look at Bill Clinton to put a lie to that.
I wouldn't compare what two consenting adults do to a pedophile going after underage girls.
shareClinton raped Juanita Broaddrick, and assaulted Paula Jones. Or aren't we believing female accusers when they accuse Democrats?
And it's obvious you have no idea what 'pedophile' means.
Old news and Clinton hasn't been president for years.
Moore RECENTLY ran for Governor and lost. He is old news now, too. Give it a rest.
Translation: "Please stop pointing out how much of a hypocrite I am."
And have you looked up the definition of 'pedophile' yet?
Pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent children. Most girls start to menstruate between ages 10 and 15 years. Jones was attracted to 14-16 year old girls therefore he's a pedophile.
share"Pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent children. Most girls start to menstruate between ages 10 and 15 years. Jones was attracted to 14-16 year old girls therefore he's a pedophile."
First of all, who's Jones?
And wow. You really are this stupid, aren't you?
https://www.psychologytoday.com/conditions/pedophilia
Definition
Pedophilia is considered a paraphilia, a condition in which a person's sexual arousal and gratification depend on fantasizing about and engaging in sexual behavior that is atypical and extreme. Pedophilia is defined as the fantasy or act of sexual activity with children who are generally age 13 years or younger.
Not by anyone's standard is a 14-year-old girl considered prepubescent. And the specific girl accusing Moore wasn't prepubescent at the time.
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I've seen and met with Al Franken at events, and he has never been anything but respective of women. He puts his arm around people at photo ops just like any other Minnesotan. The photo of him with the reporter was a bad joke, but he wasn't actually groping her.
Trump admits that he gropes women, and many women said he has done worse. He's boasts of it, and he is proud that he can get exotic foreign women in his bed. Big difference.
The Democrats eat their own.
The Democrats are sending a strong message that the Republican Party is supporting predators. Voters, especially women will remember that during the mid-terms.
Franken was a comedian so I saw that photo as a bad joke and he had apologized for it. The problem is more women complained showing it's normal behavior for him.
There are people who behave well in public but are the opposite in private.
Strong messages don't win elections. The Republican Party wanted Franken out, and the Democrats did their dirty work.
Trump was elected president because half the voters in America don't care about this issue.
Both sides are guilty of it, dating back to the 1980s.
I watched Franken's accuser tell her story, and it seemed very real, if she is an actress, then man they should've hired better actresses to accuse Trump, because those women were horrible actors! They can't even remember the dates they were harassed on, they have to look down at their script first. I was weary on Roy Moore until he actually took a lie detector test and passed it. Now he's offering to take another lie detector test with his accusers, but they won't come forward!
A liar saying he passed a lie detector test doesn't mean anything. How gullible are you and why are you defending a pedophile? Seriously, at some point put politics aside and support common decency.
shareFranken resigned because he knew he was guilty, why else would you resign?
Roy Moore hasn't been tried for it yet, it hasn't been proven at all. "How gullible are you and why are you on a witch hunt? Seriously, at some point put politics aside and support common decency."
That loser Moore still hasn't admitted that he lost the race so I doubt if he'd admit that he's a pedophile.
Didn't that pervert deny knowing one girl, but his message and autograph was in her yearbook? And he sent a card? LOL.
I hope no females in your family are ever abused. It's obvious that they won't receive any support from you.
Because there is clear evidence of voter fraud in Alabama, that's why he won't admit it. If he was guilty of any form of sexual assault, he would of pulled an Al Franken and disappeared.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/24480/breaking-moore-accuser-admits-she-wrote-note-under-ben-shapiro
Why does she have to make up a time and place? She doesn't remember the time in her lfie when something horrible happened to her? It reminds me of Trump accusers, whenever they state the day they were sexually assaulted, they have to look down at their script and read the date, because I guess they can't remember?
So his accuser wrote the date and location under Moore's note and signature. If anything, that's better evidence because it pinpoints the time and place. Her attention to detail makes her a credible witness. BTW, many people write the names and dates in back of photos.
Of course you're missing the important part of the story that pedophile Moore was signing an underage girl's yearbook. He's so creepy!
"She doesn't remember the time in her lfie when something horrible happened to her?"
I don't either. The only time I'll remember dates if it's close to a holiday and then they become associated with each other.
"Because there is clear evidence of voter fraud in Alabama"
Keep holding on to that delusion.
I really hope you're trolling for fun and not so gullible.
"why are you defending a pedophile?"
Someone needs to look up the definition of 'pedophile'.
This^. I don't agree with a grown man trying to hookup with 16 year olds,but that isn't remotely a pedophile.
share32 year old guy & 14 year old girl = pedophilia. Pedophilia is the attraction to prepubescent children. Most girls start to menstruate between ages 10 and 15 years
You really want to go there?
Well, if you want to put your feigned indignation aside,you will notice I said 16.
shareYou agree with a grown man hooking up with 14 year olds - but not 16 year olds? OK.
I don't have to feign disgust in regard to a sex predator, pervert and pedophile.
BTW, if a girl doesn't menstruate at 16 then she is prepubescent. That 10-15 years definition is hitting it kind of close.
How fucking stupid do you have to be to consider a 14 year old girl as prepubescent?
God, the lack of brain cells in liberals is breathtaking.
You're too stupid to understand the difference between the connotation and denotation of a word.
Continue to support a pervert, pedophile and degenerate.
And you're too stupid to understand the definition of a word.
And you're stupid enough to think a 14 year old girl is prepubescent.
And you've presented NO evidence that this specific girl was one of the VERY RARE girls who didn't hit puberty until she was 14.
So yeah, you're a fucking moron. Learn the definition of words so you don't sound so stupid.
When people lose an argument, they resort to the only thing they have left which is a childish temper tantrum out of frustration in the form of profanity and name-calling. Your pedophile candidate lost the election. Move on!
Actually, it's a sign of psychosis not being able to admit you're wrong, even when presented with overwhelming evidence.
I've shown you the definition of the word, but you refuse to believe the dictionary, and then dishonestly try to claim that a 14 year old girl is prepubescent in order to prevent yourself from admitting you're wrong.
So yeah, that would make you a nut job. And it certainly explains why you're a liberal. Denying reality is a specialty of liberals.
So once again, let's state the FACTS:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2] Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] CRITERIA FOR PEDOPHILIA EXTEND THE CUT-OFF POINT FOR PREPUBESCENCE TO AGE 13.[1]
(Uppercase emphasis added by me, so all morons reading it know which phrase is germane to this discussion.)
Let's recap:
Definition of Pedophilia: "Cut off at age 13."
Keelai: "Derrrr. As old as 14." *drools on keyboard*
As I said, fucking dishonest moron. share
Yet more temper tantrum. You need a time-out.
You still don't understand the difference between connotation and denotation which is why you're making such a fuss over nonsense.
At least liberals don't try to get pedophiles elected:
http://www.nj.com/opinion/index.ssf/2017/12/the_gop_is_the_party_of_roy_moore_-_the_accused_pe.html
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/12/roy-moore-pedophile-alt-right-alabama-steve-bannon
http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/steve-schmidt-roy-moore-is-a-pedophile-1093592643665
http://observer.com/2017/11/donald-trump-appears-to-endorse-accused-pedophile-roy-moore/
From here on out, I'm just going to keep quoting the definition of the word. Like the moron you are, you can argue with that.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedophilia
Pedophilia or paedophilia is a psychiatric disorder in which an adult or older adolescent experiences a primary or exclusive sexual attraction to prepubescent children.[1][2] Although girls typically begin the process of puberty at age 10 or 11, and boys at age 11 or 12,[3] CRITERIA FOR PEDOPHILIA EXTEND THE CUT-OFF POINT FOR PREPUBESCENCE TO AGE 13.[1]
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I'm not going to let this rumor of Clinton's supposed murder of someone get passed w/o comment.
I think it's completely trumped-up social media nonsense, and whatever sources support it are so far to the right as to not be credible. It's just abject noise to make the pigs, dogs and sheep stampede into a bad direction the Wrong Wing wants the US to move to create more profits for the 1%. And there are more than enough Nationalist (whether they know it or not) people to be corralled into that pen, it's awful to be a witness to it.