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Henry the K says Ukraine should cede territory for peace ASAP


Just read it in the Washington Post ...

Kissinger says Ukraine should cede territory to Russia to end war
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2022/05/24/henry-kissinger-ukraine-russia-territory-davos/

Former U.S. secretary of state Henry A. Kissinger said Monday that Ukraine should cede territory to Russia to help end the invasion, suggesting a position that a vast majority of Ukrainians are against as the war enters its fourth month.


I'm checking out the window for flying pigs because I never thought in a million years I would ever agree with Henry Kissinger on anything. His pragmatism on this issue is right on the nose. Amazing.

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He's wrong. NATO/USA should take this golden opportunity to hammer the Russian Communists/Gangsters into the ground once and for all.

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I actually agree.

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"Gimme a sip of your soda. I won't drink it all, promise!"

Kissinger has finally lost it.

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Kissinger nailed it.

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You think Kissinger is right, suggesting that an invaded country should offer its invaders a piece of land so that they'll go away?????

Seriously??

That's not pragmatism, that's defeatism, (with a touch of senility thrown in).

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Don't expect a reasonable answer from the OP

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It's only that simple to the simple-minded. You don't know shit about this history.

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When he publicly says the same to Israel's government I'll take his advice at face value

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Israel ceded the whole of the Sinai peninsula you ignorant blabbermouth. They did that because Egypt recognized their right to exist. Still the Palestinians' charter says it only cares about destroying the state of Israel - the Pals get everything they deserve, and less. And if Israel was not taking bites out of their land they would have ZERO motivation to do anything. Another ignorant gum flapper.

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Yet they still occupy territory not even recognized by the USA. CUTE but useless deflection. My statement about Kissinger still stands.

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Just double down on being ignorant ... figures.

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Every one of your top posts is a double down of your exhibition in Ignorance, I agree 👍 🤣

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israel is a criminal state!! it was never even passed by the UN just pushed thru by USA illegally!! every year countless Palestinian woman and children are brutally killed by this criminal regime!!!! and us USA taxpayers are footing the bill because the their are many other uncaught Jeff Epstein like child sex slave blackmailers working for israel and getting footage of our political, educational, and even scientific leaders doing fucked up shit so bad they have to listen to every fucking thing commanded from the isaeli overlords pulling all the shots back in Tel Aviv

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There is no such thing as "Palestinians". They're called "Arabs", you moron. Top terrorist Arafat invented the "Palestinians" so they could claim the land and go to war with Israel. Palestinians are as much a people as "Floridians or "Texanians".
The only country to this date in that region, where Arabs can live peacefully, vote, get elected, have civil rights, live freely with their religion or sexual orientation is Israel btw.

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You've been spouting Nazi talk all over here ... nothing you say matters or makes sense, you're just a liar.

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its not nazi talk it is the truth. the jewish secret service supplies sex slaves to politicians in exchange for control and blackmailing rights. this all came out right before the elite released this plandemic to get people to stop talking about it

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Show us more of how nuts you are, please! It's entertaining.

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i am not nuts i am just woke. the real woke, that happens from taking extreme amount of psychedelics and taking long long spiritual quests around the world. it is the opposite of the current meaning of the word, that was hijacked by libturds, now it means ur a mainstream brainwashed fool who is a npc regurgitating everything the fake news tells you too

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I guess he got his piece of that 40 billion.

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I'm sure he did. Ukrainians should recognize Zelensky as an American mole in their political system backed by at least 5 billion. That's 5 billions of our dollars.

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yes america and the allies have supported an ally against an aggressive mobster dictatorship. big surprise.

wow conservatives went from Warhawks to little defeatist bitches against justified wars. while pushing illegal wars for decades.

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There are "justified" wars? Really? Well, I think Hitler thought the same, you little wannabe fascist.

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I can tell you know nothing about the history in the last 20 years of Ukraine. You should just shut up and go find out about it.

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LOL what a vague cop out. nice one man. flee like a bitch

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Sorry you hate women so much, Mommy couldn't bond with such an AH as you I guess.

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American mole?!? more like Israeli mole bud.....

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lots of tricky jews have their hands in this war. just like they did back in the 1930s purges where 10 million Ukrainians were starved. i fear they are trying to recreate their Kazarian empire they had in the region back in the 1500s and steal the land from its rightful owners, just the same as they did with the poor Palestinians with their illegal criminal state of israhel

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lots of tricky jews have their hands in this war.


Starting with Zelensky. 🤣

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Yeah, but no, coz he's a Jew Nazi ! - Vicki Pollard

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I hope I'll see the day where the actor/comedian is tried for war crimes. But I doubt that will ever happen.

I'm not a Kissinger fan. But he's on target with this one. Ukraine is a fake nation created by the Soviet Union. The idea that its autonomy is sacred is ludicrous. Give back the ethnic Russian Donbas and this war will be over.

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every countries autonomy is sacred. its literally the foundation of global inter national relations.

tell me you never took political science, without telling you Never took politics sci and dont know what the fuck you are talking about

google state sovereignty ad this comes up

"Why sovereignty is the most important element of the state?

Answer: In political science, sovereignty is usually defined as the most essential attribute of the state in the form of its complete self-sufficiency in the frames of a certain territory, that is its supremacy in the domestic policy and independence in the foreign one."

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Lol. I guess you believe every war in human history was blasphemy? No, arbitrary borders created by men are not sacrosanct and no nation in human history has ever believed that.

Was Iraq's autonomy sacred when invaded by the U.S.? Was Afghanistan's? Was Vietnam's?

You Neo-Cons are rather selective on which invasions you like.

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"Lol. I guess you believe every war in human history was blasphemy? No, arbitrary borders created by men are not sacrosanct and no nation in human history has ever believed that."

again tell me you dont know anything about politics sci without telling me you dont know

"Was Iraq's autonomy sacred when invaded by the U.S.?"

Yes you have to have extremely good reason to invade another country. hence why we dont normally invade countries cause "they are kinda bad". wow you really cant distinguish between wars can you and just wars and legal reasons vs illegal ones.

you are all over the place kid

"You Neo-Cons are rather selective on which invasions you like."

HHAHAHAHAH as a Bernie supporter im def a neo con.

no im just not an idiot like you who thinks an aggressive dictatorship gets to take over a region that voted tis tay in Ukraine cause 40% are ethnically Russian.

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" that voted tis tay"

"That voted tis tay"???!!! Another "typo"?? Another "auto-correct" problem??

That one's going in my Blooper reel. You're a continual source of amusement.

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lol

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3 paragraphs and you picked up on fast typing error that should have said "to stay" instead of "tis tay" cause the O and I are beside each other on the keyboard. wow you got me....

remember when you grammar nit-picked before then you wrote a nonsense sentence that had poor grammar. and when I called you out you ran like a bitch.

"You're not worth arguing with, man. Maybe scale back the gym attendance, and possibly the steroids, too??"

LOL why did you use commas wrong. Why would there be a pause after "with"? and why is there two pauses in that second sentence? its only 11 words long. an elementary school teacher would cross those out. and why put a question marks on what wasn't a question? it was a statement. you are telling me to scale back gym attendance and steroids. not asking. I love when grammar nitpickers embarrass themselves. That one's going in my Blooper reel. You're a continual source of amusement.

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3 paragraphs and you picked up on fast typing error that should have said "to stay" instead of "tis tay" cause the O and I are beside each other on the keyboard. wow you got me....

Oh, it was the proximity of the keys and your "fast typing" that caused your error, was it? Not your ignorance? So, you meant to write, "Tos tay"? ............okay............

I won't even try to give you a full lesson in syntax, Bozo, because (a) you don't know what it means, and, (b) your schools didn't bother to teach you, anyway. But it's very simple, when you think about it. Commas are employed as pauses and as accents. In that example, the comma serves the purpose of emphasising the pattern of the sentence, by substituting for the tacit stress which is audible when somebody says that sentence.

If we write, "You're not worth arguing with man." it loses that tacit effect of a pause; not an actual pause of duration, but a pause of tone. Say it to yourself. Between "with", and "man" we change the inflection and timbre of the words. "With" is said on a slightly lower note, and "man" is said on a slightly higher note, and with a follow-through of the vowel. The comma is the synthesis of that.

Hint: We don't write the same way we speak. Rapid speech in an aggressive tone uses inflection and tonal changes and emphases to convey its sense. When we convert that to the written word, we insert commas as de facto pauses, and dashes and semi-colons, etc etc, to help to retain the intent of the spoken sentence. That's why there's a comma between "with" and "man". It is the written equivalent of a subtle emphasis in the sentence. If we leave it out, the sentence sounds rushed and impotent, like a kid who talks too fast; or like a robot.

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The same applies to, "Maybe scale back the gym attendance, and possibly the steroids, too??"

The second comma is a common convention of written English, (which I'm sure you were never taught at school.) It serves to separate and emphasise the phrase, "and possibly the steroids", by bracketing that phrase within the sentence. Again, this is standard English syntax, and I don't expect you to know about it.

My writing it with a question mark was ungrammatical. In that one aspect, you are correct. My reason for doing it that way was to follow common internet practice, which typically converts contentious statements into questions, to avoid the appearance of coercion or browbeating.


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Pffffffft. Your Bernie card shows nothing. The left has been duped into this new Neo-Con war in the same way they supported the invasion of Iraq. Be honest, if you're a socialist as you claim, did you ever imagine yourself supporting the expansion of NATO? You've been conned by the Neo-Con doctrine yet again.

And I won't call Joe Biden, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton "left". American liberals are not left. But they all supported the Neo-Con wars just like they're supporting American involvement in Little Russia.

It's no mystery why Biden has given 40 billion dollars to protect his family's investments in Ukraine. And he's got another 20 billion on the way.

Russian is the first language of 74.9% of residents in Donetsk Oblast and 68.8% in Luhansk Oblast. The region is Russian. Give it back to Russia and end Zelensky's war.

It's not in America's interest to start World War III over a regional dispute between Russians.

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The left has been duped into this new Neo-Con war in the same way they supported the invasion of Iraq


iraq was based on false manufactured information. Ukraine is not. try again

Be honest, if you're a socialist as you claim, did you ever imagine yourself supporting the expansion of NATO? You've been conned by the Neo-Con doctrine yet again.


Not a socialist. nor is Bernie. try again. I may not agree with everything about NATO but I will always agree with a democracy defending itself against an aggressive dictatorship invading/

And I won't call Joe Biden, Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton "left". American liberals are not left. But they all supported the Neo-Con wars just like they're supporting American involvement in Little Russia.


we agree on one thing

It's no mystery why Biden has given 40 billion dollars to protect his family's investments in Ukraine. And he's got another 20 billion on the way


evidence needed please that the US with a long history pre Biden wouldn't help Ukraine

Russian is the first language of 74.9% of residents in Donetsk Oblast and 68.8% in Luhansk Oblast. The region is Russian. Give it back to Russia and end Zelensky's war.


40% ethnically Russian. you'd not get to invade countries because an are 40% ethnically similar voted to not join you.

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iraq was based on false manufactured information. Ukraine is not. try again


What was the American invasion of Vietnam based on? The American invasion of Afghanistan? The American invasion of Grenada in 1983? The American invasion of Haiti in 1994? The American invasion of Panama in 1989? The American invasion of Somalia? The American bombing of Serbia?

You Neo-Cons have never found a war in which you didn't want the U.S. to be involved.

Not a socialist. nor is Bernie. try again.


Bernie Sanders, who for decades has described himself as a democratic socialist ...

https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/how-socialist-is-bernie-sanders

evidence needed please that the US with a long history pre Biden wouldn't help Ukraine


Huh? Before the 2014 coup supported by the U.S., the U.S. had no involvement in Ukraine. Zilch. Zero. Nada. One year before the coup in 2014, Biden's son was on the board of a Ukrainian corporation and made millions in investments. The timeline is mysterious, huh? Biden's son 2013. Pro-American coup 2014.

40% ethnically Russian. you'd not get to invade countries because an are 40% ethnically similar voted to not join you.


That's not why Ukraine was invaded. Putin stated the aim was to prevent Ukraine from joining NATO, a provocation for the nuclear war. The Donbas is majority Russian linguistically and culturally.

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you re a fucking clown buddy. you act as if I said Vietnam or SOmolia or Grenada were good wars.

and im a neocon? by being against pretty much every single war since ww2 except Ukraine and very few exceptions?

you are a joke buddy

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So every war was bad except the current war which the arms dealers want you to support?

And everybody supported the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Fools never learn.

Dumbass Neo-Cons. 🤣

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"So every war was bad except the current war which the arms dealers want you to support? "

No there has to be extremely good reason to support a going to war, or meddling and supporting someone else war.

this isnt a hard concept kid. despite your claims and false equivalence no one struggles with this except for losers like you.

"And everybody supported the invasion of Iraq in 2003. Fools never learn."

again false equivalency

-allied democratic nation invaded by a aggressive dictatorship asking for help

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-manufactured fake evidence by a president lying to congress about WMDs and Saddam helping al Qaeda

figure out the difference clown?

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Preventing World War III is a great reason to invade Ukraine and stop NATO from setting up bases on Russia's southern border.

But the Biden family's investments in Ukraine since 2013 is a legit reason to send arms to the fascist Azov Battalion? 🤣

Listen to Kissinger, dumbass. Russia already forced that clown Zelensky to promise he won't try and join NATO. First victory for Russia!

Now all Ukraine needs to do is give the Russian Donbas back to Russia. It's a small price for peace.

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"Preventing World War III is a great reason to invade Ukraine and stop NATO from setting up bases on Russia's southern border."

an agreement could have happened been reached where NATO setup no base and Ukraine didnt get invaded. Ukraine isnt even part of NATO

by that "logic" no country can engage with any other for fear of starting ww3. good to know china can never be challenged int he future. what a defeatist bitch you are


"But the Biden family's investments in Ukraine since 2013 is a legit reason to send arms to the fascist Azov Battalion?"

wow good one. thats all you have?

"Listen to Kissinger, dumbass. Russia already forced that clown Zelensky to promise he won't try and join NATO. First victory for Russia! "

gotta love the irony of the idiot who calls everyone a neocon. now telling me to listen to the war criminal actual neocon Kissinger

"Now all Ukraine needs to do is give the Russian Donbas back to Russia. It's a small price for peace."

LOL they have invaded all of Ukraine and haven't even said "give us the Donbas region and we will leave"

love how you simp for Putin though like the bitch you are

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Damn, is that your song and dance here? You insult everyone who disagrees with you?

You're an unhinged little bitch, aren't you? 🤣

Try having a civil disagreement for once in your life, weirdo.

Uh, neutrality in a war which doesn't concern us is not supporting Russia.

I have an idea. Why don't you volunteer to fight for Ukraine so they can use you for cannon fodder like they've done to all the other idiot Westerners who volunteered?

Go Azov!!!

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yes I insult anyone who screams "NEOCON!!!!" at everything.

and who equates every single war.

"I have an idea. Why don't you volunteer to fight for Ukraine so they can use you for cannon fodder like they've done to all the other idiot Westerners who volunteered?"

LOLLLL WHAT??? hahahahahah your posts get more and more unhinged and stupid. I didnt think that was possible. but you somehow managed it

I do love how you didnt address a SINGLE counterpoint.

almost like you have nothing at all. keep quoting actual neocon war criminal Kissinger though

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He'll exhaust you after a while, Onan. Save your breath, man, (or fingers, to be exact). :)

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Meh, I'm done with that psycho. :) He's even blowing up my PM box. 🤣

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Mine too.

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Ukraine is not a Soviet Creation!! Russians in Donbas were shipped there by the Soviet Union in 1950s to destroy the unity of the common Ukrainian people and their hatred for communism!!! the Russians were all criminals that the Soviets wanted out of there own backyards and used them as pawns by sending them to the area. mixing enemies into areas that have a similar culture and unity is an very old commie trick used time and time again to keep people divided and under control. if the neighbors hate each other the evil oppressive government has full control over the whole population. the jews had their hands in that destruction of Ukraine as they do in their current purge they are instrumenting. there is a reason Ukrainians joined the Nazis when they invaded in WW2 and treated them as liberators not invaders. the commie jews starved 10 million of them and used the stolen grains to buy factory equipment and fund their communist industrial empire. the jews alway play the victim and act like they dont have the ability to do any harm but this is false. they poked the bear too much and it came out of hibernation...

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You disparage Russians in the Donbas as criminals and Jews as monsters. Racist much?

But in over a thousand years of history Ukraine has never been an independent nation. It's always been a part of Russia until the Soviet Union created a semi-autonomous Ukraine Soviet Socialist Republic in the 1920's. So yeah, the Soviet Union created a Ukraine separate from Russia.

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its history man. i am not saying the currently all Russians are criminals in area. what i am saying is that in the 1950s the commies did a lot of social engineering by sending many Russians into Ukraine. they didnt send the most useful and obedient ones over there they send petty criminals and hard to control ones to Donbas to make the area unstable. "in a thousand years if history Ukraine has never been independent, it has always been part of Russia" is probably the most dumb fucking shit i ever heard man. the border would change all the fucking time and be controlled by many different groups. Russia didnt even exist for a thousand years, the whole area was a collection of villages and city states controlled by all sorts of people from Mongolians to Vikings. the borders would change by the decade, idk if ur just dumb as fuck or trolling but saying Ukraine was always part of Russia is going full on retard bud.... also, not all jews are monsters but many are up to no good, they are the most privileged group around and control all mainstream communication channels so they are able to portray themselves as poor innocent victims in education and media but this far from the truth. just like any powerful group of people thru history they are responsible for much genocide and destruction

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Kievan Rus' was the first Russian state, to give you an idea how linked Russia is to the region. It's the literal Russian homeland. Rus, got it? Kiev, got it?

And sure, parts of Russia and Ukraine have been owned by various empires over the years. But by 1781 Catherine Great had incorporated most of Ukraine into the Russian Empire. It had remained part of Russia until the formation of the Soviet Union.

Again, there had never been an independent Ukraine until 1991. Never, throughout all of history.

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talking to you is like talking to retard who knows a couple things and words about the past but cant connect em or anything making any sense. i cant argue with retard bud

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Your concession is accepted. Thank you very much. It was fun.

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whatever u say retard...

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Just watch out for them Jews!

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i always got my eyes peeled for their tricky tricks

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And that clown Zelensky is Jewish.

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i know, my heart is filled with sadness that great nation is already under jewish hands :(

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Soon your Nazi brothers in Ukraine will all be dead.

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the jew cries in pain as he stabs you in the back. but if u pull out that knife and stab him back in self defense he acts bewildered and confused. professional victims they are....

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that's what they said about Hitler.

Just let him take Austria....things will be fine.

You don't appease aggressors!

You don't reward war crimes!

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The aggressor is just as much America as it is Russia.
And Putin is not Hitler.
People who know nothing grasp on the one thing they think they know to explain everything.

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Did America invade Ukraine? No. Last time I checked that was Russia raping women and killing children.

And Putin is LIKE Hitler in that he is a war criminal who invades neighbors nation's.

And I know a LOT more about international realtions and history than you, peasant.

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The US was manipulating Ukrainian election and media against Russia and pro-EU.
When Ukraine began with the US they got heavy de-industrialization, and high unemployment,
in other words the EU/NATO/US promises were BS in order to pressure Russia.
Then Zelensky began to go against his campaign promises of unity and support
the Nazis in the attacks against Eastern Ukraine.
From the way you talk, it's easy to tell you know nothing but propaganda which you
accept uncritically.

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This piece of shit has always been a russkie loving commie cumstain. And the op seems to be a russian nazi, judging from his comments on this post

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In light of his death, this just shows that Kissinger's bullshit never stopped.

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